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2013 paving schedules

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StuInMcCandless

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Apr 17 2013 at 12:50pm #

Does anyone know what streets are to be done this year? We’ve done pretty well the past couple of years, with 45-year-old concrete slabs on Brighton and Perrysville finally getting addressed.

If anyone has any updated info on what is scheduled to be fixed this year, whether city or surroundings, please post it in this thread.

For myself, I’m hoping East Street between Venture and AGH gets some love. It hasn’t been touched since the concrete was poured in 1987 or so when I-279 was being constructed. I rode in on it this morning, and it’s somewhere between bone jarring and just plain dangerous.


TeamDecaf

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Apr 17 2013 at 1:11pm #

18th Street in South side would be great – it’s rough.


StuInMcCandless

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Apr 18 2013 at 12:08pm #

At least as of today, 4/18/2013, this link shows the paving schedule for District 3 (Bruce Kraus).

Includes pictures, too PDF

And yes, it includes “18th St. (Mission to Wachter)”.


Steven

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Apr 19 2013 at 12:25am #

Looks like that’s the councilman’s suggestions for paving. The DPW makes the actual list, and it appears they haven’t released it yet. Last year they released a list around April 17th. Maybe the unseasonably cold weather until recently slowed them down. Or maybe our executive branch has been spending its time meeting with lawyers, not the DPW.


Impala26

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Apr 19 2013 at 9:01pm #

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that Atwood finally gets repaved. The ruts/rivulets make it just simply a PITA to ride down. Nothing quite like cold patch on top of cold patch…


mryoshi

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Apr 20 2013 at 5:22pm #

Brighton Rd between Marshall and Charles is terrible. I flatted once when I hit a chasm between lanes and have gone about 10mph down that hill ever since, trying not to swerve in front of a car while dodging potholes.


buffalo buffalo

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Apr 21 2013 at 7:36pm #

I believe parts of Atwood are also on BKraus’s list. I had the same thought the last time I rode up that way, too…


Impala26

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Apr 22 2013 at 1:21am #

buffalo buffalo wrote:I believe parts of Atwood are also on BKraus’s list. I had the same thought the last time I rode up that way, too…

Oh yeah, you’re most definitely right!

(From the list Stu linked)

Oakland
Ward Street (between Cato & Frazier)
200-400 block of McKee Place
Parkview (Oakland Square)
Lawn Street (at Niagra)
Zulema Street (between Ward & Bates)
Pier Street
Bouquet at Joncair
Atwood (Parkview to Forbes)
Mackey Street
Swineburne at Parkview
Oakland Way at Jet Way
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buffalo buffalo

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Apr 22 2013 at 7:32pm #

“Parts of Atwood” ha! that’s the entire thing, just about.


StuInMcCandless

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Apr 26 2013 at 3:38pm #

Just saw this tweet:

Next week, DPW crews will mill, pave in Agh Ctr, Agh West, Brighton Hghts, Fineview, Manchester, Perry North & South goo.gl/l61bZ— PGH Public Works (@CityPGH_DPW) April 26, 2013


buffalo buffalo

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Apr 26 2013 at 6:51pm #

Note that that link resolves eventually to a PDF: http://apps.pittsburghpa.gov/mayor/PavingMillingApr29.pdf


Marko82

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May 18 2013 at 8:09am #

The final list is up in PDF

http://apps.pittsburghpa.gov/mayor/2013PavingPlan.pdf


sloaps

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May 18 2013 at 9:55am #

on page four: “…tertiary streets will receive a resurfacing treatment commensurate with lower traffic volumes.”

anyone know if bike-pgh or the city bike/ped coordinator had input on the walkability/bikability of these alternative surface treatments?


buffalo buffalo

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May 18 2013 at 10:07am #

oh my. 45th. Railroad. West North. …this is going to be a good year.


Marko82

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May 18 2013 at 10:41am #

@sloaps, Is that chip-n-tar? or is there some other treatment option?


StuInMcCandless

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May 18 2013 at 11:46am #

I’m curious to see what happens with what they put down on Perrysville in September. It’s only a half inch thick.


sloaps

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May 19 2013 at 7:59am #

@marko82 yeah, “tar and chip” among others. PennDOT released a report in 2011 titled, “Cost Benefit Analysis of Including Microsurfacing in Pavement Treatment Strategies & Cycle Maintenance”

ftp://ftp.dot.state.pa.us/public/pdf/BPR_PDF_FILES/Documents/Research/Complete%20Projects/Extending%20Pavement%20Life/080503%20Microsurfacing%20Final%20Report.pdf

While the resurfacing alternative may meet all metrics for a successful thoroughfare for automobile traffic, the downside of a few of these alternatives to pedestrians and cyclists is that the surface may become too coarse, loose or slippery.

Oil and chip is a classic example where the application of crushed stone onto a tacky surface isn’t “complete” until the coarse aggregate is seated into the travel lane by a few weeks of traffic. The unbound, excess aggregate is deposited in the median and shoulders. The excess aggregate appears firm, but any cyclist riding as practicable to the right and taking a corner on these roads – even weeks after a resurfacing – can attest to the hazard of seemingly firm, but loose stone shoulders.

Another is the fog treatment that is a thin “varnish” over the pavement. It’s a means to seal small cracks and replenish the asphalt material which keeps the aggregate in pavement, so it doesn’t wear away so quickly and maintains a suitable “roughness”. However, a light rainfall after a light overlay/seal can make for an incredibly slippery surface, which is why these processes are always dependent on a few days of clear skies. Like the tar and chip, this resurfacing option requires some automobile traffic and weather to “complete” the application.


StuInMcCandless

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May 19 2013 at 11:12am #

Tar and chip is not only a PITA, it’s dangerous to both bicyclists and motorcyclists.


Benzo

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May 19 2013 at 4:41pm #

Center ave by whole foods needs a makeover. It’s like the surface of the moon at the corner of penn circle west and center ave over till the whole foods entrance.

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