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A ride that touches every single Pittsburgh neighborhood

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stefb

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Jul 28 2012 at 11:09pm #

Too lazy to go back and read and don’t recall if I asked this before. Are there any steep hills? Like steeper than Henderson on the north side?


jonawebb

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Jul 28 2012 at 11:28pm #

Here is the elevation profile:

So, yeah.

BTW sorry so small. Google+ sharing is down and I can’t get Flickr to link to a bigger photo.


stefb

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Jul 29 2012 at 12:37am #

what are the hills specifically? i would like to check them out to see if i need gears.


Anonymous

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Jul 29 2012 at 1:05am #

more than likely both front & rear gears would be beneficial.


jonawebb

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Jul 29 2012 at 1:25am #

The route is at http://ridewithgps.com/routes/920628


Jacob McCrea

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Aug 6 2012 at 4:22pm #

Here is a brief update for this ride:

After Pedal Pittsburgh I drove the first half of the 80.9 mile, “.202″ route (not the one posted above), which appeared to be the most faithful to the “hit all the neighborhoods” theme. For the most part everything worked out fine, but a few of the hills were pretty insane. The map posted immediately above is better in that regard and I now plan to use it, with a few changes, as the route.

I am going to take a closer look at how we can hit more of the neighborhoods with less climbing as I want to make the ride a viable choice for as many riders as possible. For example, I think we can hit the West End before heading up into the North Side, which should save us from descending into the West End 20 miles later, only to climb right back out of it on Noblestown.

Any way you slice it there is a ton of climbing. I will do my best to make it as manageable as possible, but I would ask that riders help themselves, and me to a lesser extent, by leaving behind racks, saddlebags, extra tools, etc. I will have a pump, chain breaker and multi-tool.

Here is a question on which I’d appreciate feeback: would riders prefer to deal with less-than-ideal roads in order to climb less, or would you rather climb more in exchange for lower-traffic roads?

Edit: There will be a stop at a nice coffee shop in Beechview called Brew on Broadway. The owner reached out to me and kindly invited us to stop by. We stopped yesterday while driving the route and it will be a very nice place to stop (and much needed after climbing Crane Ave).


jonawebb

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Aug 6 2012 at 4:34pm #

First, I really appreciate your doing this. I’m looking forward to the ride either way, but I guess I’d prefer lower-traffic roads even if they’re steeper.

BTW I found a shop that sells an ideal T-shirt for this ride — Commonwealth Press on the Southside (1931 E Carson). They don’t have it on their website but it shows all the Pittsburgh neighborhoods, names bunched together, laid out like a map.

Edit: No, wait, they do. Here: original


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 6 2012 at 5:30pm #

I might be in for this. Gonna try to get two bikes ready and enough supplies on hand (tubes to fit, water, food to carry). Thanks for the tip on what not to bring.


chemicaldave

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Aug 6 2012 at 5:35pm #

damn, I’ll be out of town for this


edmonds59

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Aug 6 2012 at 5:39pm #

That’s a nice shirt. I’m gettin one, ride or not.

I feel like I touched a lot of neighborhoods on Sunday. But if I did 63 m and 5,000 ft of climbing Sunday, and I felt good, I’ll bet I could do this.


pearmask

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Aug 6 2012 at 6:52pm #

Okay, the distance and amount of climbing initially scared me off, but now I want to do this. I’ll be prepared to bail if necessary.

And I appreciate the note about leaving extra tools and stuff behind. I think I might even pull off my rear rack and any other extra stuff I can. I love my heavy steel road bike, but I was really feeling the extra weight yesterday with that plus my tendency to try to bring along an entire bike shop worth of tools just in case


Erica

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Aug 7 2012 at 1:04am #

I have that shirt! I got it at wildcard on butler st.


Jacob McCrea

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Aug 9 2012 at 5:02pm #

This ride is coming together nicely.

@pearmask: Yes, you should pull the racks and fenders off of the bike, and leave the bike shop worth of tools at home. Between what I will carry and what is at the rest stop, there should be no need for tools.

@Stu: Be advised that there are some serious downhills on the course, so you will want to get the braking woes discussed on the other thread figured out.

@Edmonds: Yes, you can make it. I have been looking at ways to make the climbs more gradual, and avoiding others, and it shouldn’t be that bad. I have to figure out a decent way to hit the Hill District and Polish Hill at the end without too much duress, but I think it can be done, even if it involves a few more miles.

Also, if anyone wants some special food, drinks, etc. to be at the mid-way rest stop, let me know and something can be worked out. We are planning to have plenty of food and drinks (read: don’t bring a bunch of heavy food) but if someone has some special dietary needs they can be accommodated. Just shoot me an email; it should be in a preceding post.


pearmask

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Aug 9 2012 at 5:08pm #

Yeah, thanks, I’ll do all that if I do end up coming. I’m still not sure I’m physically up to it, and my bike still isn’t very light even when stripped down, so I may end up chickening out, but we’ll see.


schmenjamin

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Aug 9 2012 at 6:12pm #

FYI, the 31SB is currently closed to all traffic and last I heard it will probably stay that way until late 2012.

Maybe adjust so that the first leg goes down Penn through the heart of the Strip, then connect to the North Shore trail at the 16SB?

Other option could be to start in the opposite direction towards the 40SB and connect to the trail in Millvale.


HiddenVariable

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Aug 9 2012 at 6:25pm #

the first option is a good idea. herr’s island slash washington’s landing isn’t technically its own neighborhood, it’s part of troy hill.


paulheckbert

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Aug 12 2012 at 4:51am #

I’m likely to join this ride – sounds like masochistic fun. Do we have an estimate for the number of people yet?

I would predict: we’ll have a range of speeds, and people will get flats, so we’ll get spread out. But the writeup says “a no-drop ride”, so should we plan on splitting into several groups, to accommodate the range of speeds, so the fast people don’t get bored waiting, and the slow people don’t feel too rushed?

The stretches on Greentree, Banksville, and Route 51 don’t look pleasant. Riding in tight packs there would be wise, for safety.

I designed a ride that is somewhat similar in spirit that I call the Pittsburgh Hilly Loop: see http://ridewithgps.com/routes/193966 . I found it surprisingly tiring, when done on a hot day, so let’s hope that Saturday is cool.


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 12 2012 at 9:20am #

I won’t be there. Sorry.


mattre

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Aug 13 2012 at 4:53am #

Jake and I spent some time tweaking the route tonight. Here’s the final draft:

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1575641

It starts and ends at the Bike Pittsburgh office (though technically you’ve hit every neighborhood @ Roup & Penn and can call it done). We managed to trim the distance to just over 70 miles and the climbing to just under 7000 feet. We used Nate’s neighborhood overlay map to make sure we hit them all (http://megliozen.com/mapping/)

I’ve set all of the other versions to private to eliminate any confusion. This one will stay up for 24 hours for any final suggestions, and tomorrow (Monday) at midnight I’ll lock it down so that cue sheets can be printed.


buffalo buffalo

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Aug 13 2012 at 3:37pm #

You seem to have cut several neighborhoods in the process, unfortunately: North Squirrel Hill, South Oakland, Duquesne Hts, Fineview, Spring Garden, and Troy Hill, among others…


Jacob McCrea

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Aug 13 2012 at 4:03pm #

I am not sure about North Squirrel Hill and South Oakland, but based on the neighborhood maps from which we were working, the route should just touch the borders of Duquesne Heights (in the West End), Fineview, Spring Garden and Troy Hill. We could make a route that goes through every neighborhood, rather than just straddling the borders, but to go through the centers of the above-mentioned neighborhoods you are looking at about 9,000 feet of vertical climbing and 90 odd miles, and the route would make the Dirty Dozen seem like a rail trail ride. We are trying to make this a viable ride for as many folks as possible. If we somehow miss a neighborhood, well, there is always next year.


jonawebb

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Aug 13 2012 at 4:17pm #

http://www.pittsburghpa.gov/dcp/snap/, which sounds like an official map, has North Squirrel Hill extending to Fifth and Neville, which the route does touch.

And it has South Oakland extending to the Birmingham Bridge, which the route crosses.

Once the map is official I will go through and make a cue sheet that notes the neighborhoods we traverse or touch.


mattre

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Aug 13 2012 at 4:21pm #

Duq. Heights is covered by the W. End circle, Fineview at the corner of Carrington & Federal, Spring Garden by the corner of Spring Garden & Concord, Troy Hill by the Northside end of the 16th St. Bridge, North Oakland is clearly crossed on Forbes, and previously touched just after leaving the Bloomfield Bridge, and South Oakland is covered by the Birmingham Bridge and the ride up the sidewalk on Fifth.


mattre

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Aug 15 2012 at 2:56am #

Here’s the final map: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1583234

We’ve got one built-in rest stop at mile 36.6, and my wife has graciously volunteered to man one or two more, with gatorade, water, and gels (sort of a gas-and-go). Any thoughts on where they ought to be?

I was thinking of putting her at Sherwood & Sheraden (mile 18.3) and again at Braddock and Forbes (mile 51.5). Thoughts?


Mary

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Aug 15 2012 at 12:55pm #

We live a few blocks from the intersection of Forbes & Braddock, so I can help out with the rest stop if you like. My husband Nate will be part of the ride.

Please feel free to email me …. gmail ….. marymeg ….if you’d like a hand.


Nate

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Aug 15 2012 at 1:06pm #

I’m excited to see that the route goes down Parkwood. I just explored that a month ago. It’s got a half mile of ghost road! Very rideable and nice. I actually intended to tag it in tag-o-rama (not that I can ever manage to get out to pick anything up) but now that this ride will show it off I won’t need to.

Also, credit where credit is due, the source of the overlay map is Chris Briem, I just modded it a little and put it up.


Jacob McCrea

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Aug 15 2012 at 1:41pm #

Yes, the ride down Parkwood should be pretty cool – that’s a little slice of Pittsburgh that isn’t often seen. A few more comments on the ride:

1. Other than the climbs out of Arlington Heights and Hazelwood, most of the tough hills are before the mid-point rest stop. So, if you can make it to mile 36, you should be able to do the rest. We put a lot of time and effort into figuring out how to minimize the climbs.

2. Jon is printing cue sheets, so if riders want to go ahead or fall behind, they are free to do so. However, I don’t think we can promise that the rest stops will be open for those who want to go ahead or fall behind.

3. If anyone has solid plans to attend, please email me at jcm250b at juno dot com so we have at least a base line for how much food to have at the mid-way stop, as well as cue sheets. We have a decent selection of food and drinks but do not want to run out.


jonawebb

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Aug 15 2012 at 1:53pm #

I’ve made a cue sheet, marking the neighborhoods, and uploaded it here. I verified the neighborhoods following the map at http://www.pittsburghpa.gov/dcp/snap/, which seems official.

You can print it from there. I’ll also bring printed copies and some maps.


buffalo buffalo

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Aug 15 2012 at 3:48pm #

Did this ever get posted to the bikefest calendar? I don’t see it.

(More usefully for my own cetaceans, is there a Facebook event anywhere?)

I’ll try to be there, but I’m not convinced I’m up to it. (I’m not up to much at 8am Saturday, but that’s a separate issue.)


jonawebb

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Aug 15 2012 at 3:53pm #

It’s listed as “A Ride That Touches Every Pittsburgh Neighborhood”. August 18, 8 am.


buffalo buffalo

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Aug 15 2012 at 6:19pm #

oh, i get it, bikefest calendar doesn’t copy to the bikepgh calendar, which of course was the one I was looking at.


paulheckbert

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Aug 16 2012 at 5:41pm #

I made up maps of the route for printing. See https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8lz96dnmp2hha9v/NJJ2Q-yANk . There’s an overview map and four zoomed-in quadrant maps. You could print them and bring them for Saturday. For anybody falling behind, the map shows numerous ways to shortcut the ride. The route I used is the one at http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1583234 .


mr marvelous

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Aug 16 2012 at 5:50pm #

I wish I could do this ride but unfortunately I work 12hrs that day.


buffalo buffalo

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Aug 16 2012 at 7:15pm #

Too many things have come up, unfortunately, including a pair of apartment viewings Saturday. I plan to be at Flock & Lightup, but I’ll miss this.


jonawebb

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Aug 16 2012 at 7:23pm #

My friend Paul Heckbert made some maps of the Terrible Tour. I’ve shared them at https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0SsCVLENRv4eXpGSzFrOEkwbEk. You can print them from there if you like. I’ll also print some to distribute to the riders.

See you Saturday!


stefb

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Aug 16 2012 at 7:24pm #

Oh yeah I am leading the light up ride on the evening of this ride. I am very tempted to do this one.. But I would definitely have to do it fixed.. Weather does look perfect though.


HiddenVariable

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Aug 17 2012 at 5:17pm #

getting psyched for this. i haven’t done any kind of tough ride since the dirty dozen, so this should be a fun test.


melange396

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Aug 18 2012 at 4:33am #

im not hard enough to do this ride, but good luck tomorrow. in case you dont already have a flyer, feel frfee to use this old pic:


stefb

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Aug 18 2012 at 10:08am #

I kept thinking of this image yesterday and laughing. Thanks for posting it again. I have this goofy voice in my head that goes along with it.


rachel_ding

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Aug 18 2012 at 6:30pm #

I think this ride just passed me and Erok’s house on Hatfield St. in Lawrenceville! We had just come in from gardening and heard ding-ding-ding out front. Was that you guys???

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