BikePGH!

A ride that touches every single Pittsburgh neighborhood

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edmonds59

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Aug 18 2012 at 8:34pm #

Ride report? Man what a specfreakingtacular day.


B.S.

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Aug 18 2012 at 9:15pm #

I bailed once we hit highland ave., but I belive I hit the other hoods on my commute to the ride. Few mechanical issues, one flat tire, not bad for +-20 riders. Really well organized, rest areas had water, gatorade, gu, crackers, cliff bars, and more. A+++ to the ride organizers and their families. Wanted to get in some cat 6 training, but everyone rode respectfully. Really great ride!!!!!


HiddenVariable

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Aug 18 2012 at 11:48pm #

awesome ride, top to bottom (and then back to the top again). jon, jake, and matt did an excellent job organizing and planning the route. the rest stops were impeccably stocked, and the support was terrific. jake did a great job going back down pretty much every hill we came up to make sure everyone made it. a hearty thanks to everyone involved!

edited to add: apparently we had sponsors, and i would also like to thank them. unfortunately i don’t know the organization’s name, so hopefully someone will fill that in for me. but thanks to them, as well!


urbanrider

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Aug 19 2012 at 1:36am #

Great job to all involved in planning this ride. I know it couldn’t have been easy, but you pulled it off in spectacular fashion. I think Matt’s wife might have put in more miles than we did, rolling from rest stop to rest stop, with everything we needed!

I think we should reconsider the name of this ride for next year – how about “The Barking Dog Ride”? ha!


jonawebb

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Aug 19 2012 at 2:24am #

It was a fantastic ride. I had a great time in spite of the mechanical issue that kept me from completing after Regent Square. Now I really can tag all the neighborhoods. Thanks to Jake, Matt, and Matt’s wife and kids.


edmonds59

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Aug 19 2012 at 12:19pm #

I didn’t do the ride, so I could be talking out of my ass, but any chance this could become sort of the “zenith” ride on Pedal Pgh, the “hors categorie”? It would give the grumblers something to chew on (personally I would go full snarky and say, you want a ride? Here’s yer f’ing ride). Also I think it really has what a marketer would call “resonance”.

But it would really put the Bike Pgh! stamp on Pedal Pittsburgh, pretty much fully conceived and executed by the community. Just a thought.


jonawebb

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Aug 19 2012 at 12:52pm #

How would that work?

I will definitely help make sure the ride happens next year in any case. May even be one of the ride leaders since thanks to Matt and Jake’s skilful routing and Matt’s wife’s rest stops it wasn’t a hard as I’d feared.

Btw thanks also to Mary and Nate for the eat stop. I didn’t get to it but I’m sure it was nice.


edmonds59

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Aug 19 2012 at 12:57pm #

I dunno, theres a route and a map, it’s been ridden and tried. Sounds like it worked quite well for 20 people, scale it up.


Nate

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Aug 19 2012 at 1:36pm #

The ride was great, I think because we had a terrific ride leader and a group of people that stuck together. When you scale it up, I think you’ll run into problems. On the ride you will encounter terrible pavement, bad traffic, unfriendly roads, surprising turns, iffy neighborhoods. You’ll certainly make wrong turns and get off the route, and quite possibly get actually lost.

I loved it and will do it again, but I’d be cautious about making it lots bigger where small groups & individual riders will be dropped.


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 19 2012 at 2:55pm #

Do it again next year, same scale. Didn’t Dirty Dozen take a couple of years to get rolling?


mattre

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Aug 19 2012 at 4:06pm #

The ride was awesome…I don’t think it could have gone any better. We had a great crowd and the weather was perfect. Jake did an awesome job leading the ride and keeping the group together.

My favorite part remains coming out of the woods on Parkwood to see the family outside working on their car. I was the third rider to emerge, and the guy looked at me and said, “What the…?” and then 19 more riders came out. We definitely left them scratching their heads over it ;)

Thanks to Jake for doing such an awesome job leading the ride, Jon for the cue sheets and picking a date/time for it to happen (I don’t think it would have, otherwise), Nate and Mary for hosting the last rest stop, and my wife for ferrying food and refreshments all over the city, and Elite Runners and Walkers (my wife’s employer) for donating some gatorade and the two cases of Gu.

I think we should stick to the same scale for next year. It is not an easy ride, and it would be asking a lot of the leader to be in charge of a group any larger. There are also the two sections which require some trespassing (from Becks Run onto the trail, and again from the trail onto Baldwin at Sandcastle) which would probably prohibit any “official” endorsement by Bike Pittsburgh. My vote is to do it in the same way next year. If it grows much bigger, we’re going to need multiple ride leaders and may need to change it to a “drop” ride where we leave the stragglers behind.

All in all, I had a total blast on my first group ride. Now I just need to find another regular one to keep myself busy until next year ;)

@HiddenVariable: Elite Runners and Walkers in Robinson Twp donated some of the gatorade, coolers, and the two cases of energy gels


Anonymous

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Aug 19 2012 at 4:42pm #

great ride! I will definitely do this one again! Maybe next year we can get a few more ladies to join. (just to clarify; i am female, not a creeper)

I agree that the faces of surprise at the bottom of Parkwood were great. I was at the tail end of the line after taking some photos at the top. The folks working on the car were still surprised at that point.

After struggling to figure out how to post photos I just put a few on the bikefest image dump thread.


Mary

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Aug 19 2012 at 5:21pm #

Here’s a photo I took at our house (rest stop #3)

Oops … not working right now. I’ll have to figure out where to put the photo. I’ll be back.


Jacob McCrea

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Aug 19 2012 at 6:23pm #

The whole thing reminded me of the A-Team show, where Hannibal says at the end, “I love it when a plan comes together.”

All kidding aside, I appreciate the kind words above and have to commend EVERYONE for their substantial efforts at making this work. The bottom line is that this would not have worked well without everyone’s efforts. I will likely overlook someone given everything involved, but here is my quick list of who did what to make this ride work as correctly described above:

1) Matt, who invested substantial time in making a viable route, including multiple revisions to make it hit every neighborhood AND be rideable (not easily done), without which the whole thing would not have happened;

2) Matt’s wife Jen and two kids, who generously procured excellent rest stop food, set up and helped with the rest stops, including the second stop in an unknown location, and took the supplies from stop to stop;

3) Elite Runners and Walkers, which generously donated Gu’s, Gatorade and the use of equipment for the rest stops;

4) Jon W. and Paul H., who generously made cue sheets and maps, respectively, both of which were very well done and took some time, without which we would have been riding around like the cast of Gilligan’s Island for half the ride;

5) My girlfriend Kelley, who generously gathered and made a great deal of food, Gatorade, etc. for the rest stops (I told her, “mix that Gatorade strong, I don’t want these people to be bonking on me.”;

6) Nate and Mary, who generously hosted and stocked a much-needed rest stop in their front yard, and provided much-needed guidance in areas with which I was unfamiliar;

7) Sam R. and her coffee shop in Beechview, Brew on Broadway, who kindly invited us to stop by and made sure that she had plenty of ice water, coffee, etc. on hand (that’s where the band is);

8) The various riders who, at various points, helped out with intersections, a thankless but critical task;

9) Last but most certainly not least, the entire group of riders, a highly skilled and gentlemanly group who I look forward to seeing again. I was especially appreciative of the road manners and general adherence to law which prevailed; it was far better than what I reasonably could have expected and that took a lot of stress off of my shoulders.

I am pressed for time today but will comment in a day or two on some of the issues raised above for next year’s ride. However it happens, it will happen again, and it will again be good. Thanks again to every one who participated and contributed. It’s always nice to go home and say, “wow, that was a really good day in my life.”


Anonymous

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Aug 20 2012 at 10:09pm #

Rachel,

That was probably us on the Pool Ride that were *dinging* for you are Erok on Hatfield!


Jacob McCrea

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Aug 20 2012 at 10:41pm #

Regarding doing this as a Pedal PGH route, I hate to say it but I am not sure it would be worth the effort. I see many issues, as Matt and Nate correctly mentioned. I’d add a few more to what they’ve said:

1. You pass through at least two other boroughs, Greentree and Baldwin, which I imagine requires some advance notice and/or politicking. You may get “cool, call if you need something,” or it may be like getting an act of Congress to put up signs. I really can’t say for sure.

2. You need a completely separate set of rest areas and signs along the route. I doubt the signs and food would break the budget, but placing and removing them takes a lot of time. You would be setting up a completely independent 70 mile Pedal Pittsburgh route for perhaps 100-200 participants. I can’t say whether it would be worth the effort.

3. We had 3 stops: a nice public location in Brighton Heights and two other participant-owned properties. This worked for 20-25, but may be asking a little much for the organizers to handle an all-day stream of 100-200 riders.

4. I say this with great hesitation, but it’s hard to publicly promote the ride AND make it clear that many riders have no business being on such a ride. Flame me if you must, but in my view the route is not for riders who are uncomfortable dealing with occasional fast traffic, steep climbs, high-speed descents and turns, choppy pavement, etc. It is also not suited for poorly conditioned riders, or riders with inappropriate equipment who blithely expect to do 70 miles of serious hills, one after the other. It took about 20 solid riders nine hours to complete the course. Granted, we stuck together, lingered at the rest stops, obeyed the laws and waited atop the hills, but casual riders would take far longer than that.

With all that said, I will do it again next year. I would only make a few changes. I would break the ride into two groups, essentially fast and slow. I’d make sure each group had a ride leader who knows the route, as well as someone riding “sweep.” I would move the course a street over in two places to avoid a dangerous intersection and a hill. Other than that, plan on the event happening next year. It should be much easier next year, and it was too much fun to not revisit it.


jonawebb

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Aug 20 2012 at 11:04pm #

Jake, looking forward to it!


Anonymous

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Aug 21 2012 at 11:36am #

@Jacob McCrea

1. I don’t think so. As soon as bicyclist follow the road rules no advanced notification is needed. You can ask RedDan as one of organizers of long trips. PMTCC also does not notify boroughs its passing through.

2 and 3. We (as PMTCC) use gas stations, small plazas as a rest stops. We ask to bring a little bit of cash so everyone could buy drinks/food along route. Often we worn people at gas stations/subways/mcdonalds that at certain date a big group of bicyclists would come through and stop for the rest. E.g. small gasstation with restaurant at intersection of US-30 and 168 is one of our rest stop on long routes. As per marking I think that using paint is more advanced. :)

4. I agree completely. The only thing I can add is that if you have 100 people then you have to split them into groups and have a designated leaders per each group. Similar to what Dan and Lucia (and I helped a little bit) for 12 bridges ride. I would say two leaders per group is even better — one in front, another one at the end sweeping.


Jacob McCrea

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Jun 4 2013 at 11:22am #

Submissions for Bike Fest events are now being accepted and I’ve submitted the following for this year’s edition of the ride, which will be on August 17, starting at 8:00 a.m. at Doughboy Square:

This is a road bike ride of around 75 miles which touches all 90 City of Pittsburgh neighborhoods (as well as a few suburbs). We will have two ride leaders and two groups, which will essentially be the “fast” group and the “slow” group. This is not a race and the ride leaders will make their best efforts to keep their groups together. However, given the distance and hills it is NOT a “no drop” ride. Be advised that the course involves around 8,000 feet of climbing and is by no means an easy ride.

We mostly avoid busy roads, but a few roads, out of necessity, will not be ideal for bicycles. There will be rest and food stops at various points, and about half way through the ride there is an aide station with food, drinks, a bathroom, bike repair tools, etc. for folks who stay with the ride leader(s). There are many good points to “bail out” and return to the start if you only want to do part of the ride. If you plan to do the whole ride, anticipate a long day on the bike and plan accordingly.

Contact: Jacob McCrea at jcm250b at juno dot com. Helmets are required. Light or intermittent rain does NOT cancel; heavy or continuous rain cancels. Riders participate at their own risk and are solely responsible for their own safety. The aide stations will be well stocked with food, but do bring some money for the bus if you bonk or have a big mechanical problem, and bring enough tubes for a few flats. Again, please note the 8,000 feet of climbing and refrain from bringing your heaviest bike or enough tools to impress a NASCAR crew chief. Hope you can join us!


jonawebb

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Jun 4 2013 at 11:29am #

Yay Jake! Looking forward to it.


erok

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Jun 4 2013 at 1:13pm #

wow, awesome.


edmonds59

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Jun 4 2013 at 2:15pm #

Should I try this?


Jacob McCrea

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Jun 4 2013 at 2:32pm #

Yes, I think you would have a good time. If you are concerned about the hills and the distance, rest assured there is no shame in just doing the first half of the ride, having lunch at the mid-point rest stop (my shop, which I think you’d enjoy in and of itself), and calling it a day.


mattre

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Jun 4 2013 at 3:34pm #

I definitely think anyone who’s done any sort of distance should consider trying it. As Jake said, there’s no shame in riding part of it and calling it a day.

That said, I think EVERYONE who decides to ride needs to understand that this is NOT a “no drop” ride and needs to have a backup plan for getting home should the need arise. It is not an easy ride by any measure. I’ve done three centuries with minimal hills, and I’ll say without question that they were all easier than this ride.

I don’t want to discourage anyone. We had an awesome group last year and great support, and I (and everyone I spoke to) had an amazing time. I can’t wait for this year’s ride and I’m hoping even more show up. Just know that it is definitely a challenge and prepare accordingly.


stefb

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Jun 4 2013 at 3:41pm #

I am glad this is happening again.


StuInMcCandless

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Jun 4 2013 at 5:42pm #

Assuming my plans don’t get kiboshed by something, this is going on the calendar *right now*.


Pierce

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Jun 4 2013 at 6:10pm #

On mine as well; hopefully it doesn’t conflict with the pool ride this year


edmonds59

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Jun 4 2013 at 7:15pm #

This frightens me.
I did a ride last weekend that was 40 miles with apparently 6,000 feet of climbing (!), at abt 10 mph avg. The last climb home was a bit of a death march, but there’s 2 months to improve right? I feel like I have some kind of wall at about 40 miles that is going to be tough to break over. Plus I am rarely able or willing to devote more than 4 hrs on a weekend to riding.
Plus this is in August.
This still frightens me. Almost makes me want to go ride in Ohio. It’s hard around here.


mattre

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Jun 4 2013 at 8:37pm #

Edmonds, I’d say that anyone who can do a 50 – 60 mile ride through the city with a little juice left over could probably tackle this ride with the slower group (though you may be totally spent by the end). Remember that it’s in a group, so it’s a little easier to push yourself, and there will be planned and well-spaced stops with food/water/gels/gatorade to keep you fueled. If you did 40 mi with 6000 feet of climbing, you’re already most of the way there.

I was not in great shape last year, and the parts I struggled with the most were the couple long climbs to the tops of the highest hills (e.g. up Observatory Hill from the East St valley) and Crane Ave just because it’s so effing steep. If I wanted to train for it, I’d spend some time climbing the longest and steepest hills in my neighborhood and shoot for a 60+ ride (with or without hills) at a pace that didn’t leave me totally spent by the end.

If you can do 40, you can do 60. It’s all about managing food/water/pace. You probably don’t want to drop much below 10mph avg, so try upping your food and water first and I’ll bet you find that the wall has moved.


byogman

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Jun 4 2013 at 9:00pm #

Why oh why are ALL the cool rides on Saturday?! Sigh.


edmonds59

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Jun 5 2013 at 5:32am #

mattre wrote:If I wanted to train for it, I’d spend some time climbing the longest and steepest hills in my neighborhood…

I do that on my commute to work. Twice. Each way. LOL
Really, my commute is 10+- mi. one way, with 2,000+- ft of climbing. Unfortunately numerous repeated 10 mile rides simply gets you in really good shape for 10 mile rides.


Jacob McCrea

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Jul 17 2013 at 9:55am #

This ride is a month from now and I expect a bigger turnout than last year. I would like to get a rough sense of how many from the board plan to attend so that we have enough food at the rest stops. To that end, please shoot me an email at jcm250b at juno dot com if you plan to ride.

@Edmonds, the ride is really just a series of ten-mile rides. Think about it that way, bring a light road bike, leave the saddlebags and other superfluous b.s. at home, eat and drink enough and you’ll be fine. I guarantee that notwithstanding the heat and hills, participating will be more fun than reading about it on the internet. We hope to see you there.


buffalo buffalo

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Jul 19 2013 at 1:28pm #

I’m in.

Same map as last year, or is there a new one?


Vannevar

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Jul 20 2013 at 2:37pm #

I’m in. Aspirationally. Is there a map of the route yet?
Vannevar


Jacob McCrea

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Jul 20 2013 at 2:46pm #

The route will be essentially the same as last year. As mentioned above, we need to move the route one block over in two spots. There is a link to the old route above. Also, there will be a new mural by a noted mural artist on the route.


mattre

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Aug 11 2013 at 6:17pm #

Here is the final official route for this year’s ride: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3076121.

I’m really looking forward to it…I hope that anyone who’s considering it comes out and makes an attempt. See you on Saturday morning!


pbeaves

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Aug 11 2013 at 9:58pm #

booo. stuck at work.


jonawebb

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Aug 13 2013 at 1:57pm #

I’ve made a near-final cue sheet at http://tinyurl.com/lkd8vhq. The cue sheet you get when you download from Ride with GPS doesn’t include some of the turns, for some reason.
I’ve also added the rest stops (except for one in Brighton Heights I want to confirm) and a couple of other notes, and listed the neighborhoods as we reach them.
I’ll print the final cue sheets and have them ready at the ride.
See you Saturday!


jonawebb

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Aug 13 2013 at 3:59pm #

I just talked with Marc Reisman — I’m going to go ahead with the appeal. It will cost $99 to file for the appeal and his fee will be $500. Honestly, I can afford it, but if you feel motivated to support the effort, you could send me money at PayPal, username same as this account. Thanks.


buffalo buffalo

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Aug 13 2013 at 4:15pm #

jonawebb wrote:The cue sheet you get when you download from Ride with GPS doesn’t include some of the turns, for some reason.

I’ve had issues with this a couple times creating my own maps. Usually grabbing a control point immediately before the missing turn, then dropping it back where it was, is enough to make it reappear.

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