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Anyone up for Sunday rides starting/finishing in the east end?

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Anonymous

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Jan 10 2013 at 2:07am #

I find that going weekends without riding makes me feel pretty lousy.

What would be best for me is relatively early morning, then no conflicts with family schedule for the day.

Haven’t worked out any details, but probably something in the 2 hour range. And not skipping seasonally. Weather call-offs possible but hopefully not common.


Drewbacca

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Jan 12 2013 at 6:06pm #

Are you planning on riding tomorrow?


Anonymous

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Jan 14 2013 at 1:10am #

Sorry I missed this, I’ve been living off NyQuil, ibuprofen, tea and soup since about Friday midday and didn’t think to check Saturday evening.

Next Sunday perhaps? Let me know.


pearmask

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Jan 14 2013 at 1:29am #

I’m not the best about mornings, but if you guys ride next week, I’ll definitely try to drag myself out of bed for it.


Anonymous

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Jan 14 2013 at 2:15am #

What sort of ride would you like? I’m really flexible, just want to get something in.


pearmask

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Jan 14 2013 at 2:28am #

Whatever, really. I’m pretty flexible too. I’ve just been trying to get more miles in at a decent pace. What you said about something in the two-hour range sounds good.


Anonymous

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Jan 14 2013 at 2:43am #

Out to Boyce park, or do you think that’s too ambitious? Mind you, I’ve never been out that way and don’t know what the heck I’m doing, would be a minor research project this week to piece it together optimally.


cburch

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Jan 14 2013 at 3:19am #

Go north, west or south. Riding out to or past Monroeville sucks.


Anonymous

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Jan 14 2013 at 3:40am #

Suggestions appreciated. I haven’t really biked anywhere but Squirrel Hill to downtown. Was trying not to follow those old tracks at least.


Anonymous

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Jan 14 2013 at 3:46am #

Part of the motivation also was scouting Dornbush street. Raw curiosity and a laugh is all (I’m know in NO shape to climb it, but it might be funny to try).


Anonymous

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Jan 14 2013 at 4:42am #

PMTCC has two routes (at least I rode those) 16th Bridge to New Kensington:

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1143293

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1139851

Both touch Boyce Park on a way back to Pittsburgh. Both use Saltzburg/Frankstown. We usually ride tight pack (or two packs) on 380.

Another way is Old Frankstown/Lott/Main/Universal/Frankstown (from Boyce to Pittsburgh).


quizbot

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Jan 14 2013 at 6:28am #

I’ll be looking for longish early Sunday rides post PGH marathon. For this time of year I was happy to get 20 mi around town in shorts, let alone 20 mi. Sundays are pretty mellow in general – best day to ride. If you want to get in some easy miles, head north on Freeport Road for a while & come back. Easy meaning that even though there are no hills, you’ll have a headwind on half of the ride. Not sure how it is with snow & ice on the berm… probably not that great, actually.

In Feb, you’ll be on the trainer.


Drewbacca

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Jan 15 2013 at 6:14pm #

“I’m not the best about mornings, but if you guys ride next week, I’ll definitely try to drag myself out of bed for it.”

Dragging… is the ONLY way I know how to get out of bed. LOL

I’m likely down for a ride this coming Sunday (weather permitting). After that, I’ll probably be back in Chicago for at least two more months; so I won’t be a regular participant in the immediate future.


pearmask

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Jan 16 2013 at 2:19am #

Derp, I forgot about something else going on this Sunday. Next Sunday, I’m in.


Ahlir

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Jan 17 2013 at 2:31am #

I made it out this past Sunday. Deeply relaxing; I ended up down to my t-shirt.

In truth what happened is that I finally went to the South Side to pick up my bike which got stuck there due to the snows (yes, I wimped; sorry).

It turned into a nice ride up and down the rivers. Eventually I wandered aimlessly through the byways of Allegheny Cemetery; got passed by a friendly spandex guy on Stanton; inhaled the smells of roasting chicken off Frankstown…

Anyway, I like the idea of Sunday rides in winter. If more come up I’d like to be there (sorry, too busy to commit to initiating any).


byogman

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Feb 18 2013 at 10:06pm #

First, apologies for starting the idea and let it fall totally flat for over a month. Combo of weather, message board blackout, a nagging cough, and lately, laziness.

But am still looking for a wake up call and some fun Sunday mornings

It doesn’t look like I’ll know who was riding Sunday midday up Beacon (unless this gets it a second look and it’s one of you!), so I’ll assume for the time being that there isn’t a regular ride for me to hop on, or at least not one I’ll find through these boards.

So, let’s try this again. Starting and finishing at say, Forbes and Shady (giving the chance for a charge for anyone who needs at Starbucks or Dunkin donuts… also places I can get something, bonus). Routes will be all road and smooth trails.

I do have a hard stop at 11 so I can be home and showered for lunch. So I could theoretically start as late as 9, but prefer earlier so there’s more ride time / time in case of flat or whatever.

Hard to give much guidance on pacing since I don’t know the group and have no personal experience on longer rides. But certainly, will start out on the easy side of things and no drops. Will after that first ride what’s most desired for the future.

OK, so reply if you’re interested and PM me so I have your contact info. Unless road conditions are pretty nasty first ride will be February 24th.


byogman

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Feb 21 2013 at 3:32pm #

From the PMs I think a few folks have stuff going on this Sunday in particular. No for sure sign ons, but maybe a concrete route helps bring this into better focus and bring someone in if they’re on the fence.

For me at least, this is also my public commitment to ride since I know I fell flat on this last time I proposed it. Will post the link to the (likely embarassing) endomodo recording when done assuming my cell phone battery doesn’t die with the gps tracking on.

So, starting with a counter clockwise loop around the Pittsburgh eruv: (https://sites.google.com/site/pittsburgheruv/eruv-map), with impossible to directly follow section on the southeast corner taken up by nine mile run trail and connections to and from. About 10 miles. Up to four extensions of interest to me taking it to a little over 20 miles if my hands don’t get too cold.

Extension 1:

Downhill shady to around walnut street, cutting over to Beachwood around Reizenstein, Mellon Park, or meandering and exploring both if I’m on my own. Looking for the least intimidating route to/from that area of Shady for my wife (assuming I can get her on a bike in the first place).

Extension 2:

Down Hazelwood Avenue to 2nd avenue and up Flowers/Killborne/Tesla, just because. OK, I have a vendetta over there, I didn’t have the juice for all of Tesla street when I was stuck in the saddle back in November and now that I’m not stuck in the saddle at have a decent bit of bike commuting behind me, I want to see if I do have the juice.

Extension 3:

Down Browns Hill Road and the Homestead Grays bridge (ROAD, ADRENALINE, FAST!), loop around back to the GAP and ride the GAP just a little in very slow recovery mode before coming back up the bridge on sidewalk (oh well). It’s always bothered me that I’m so close to the waterfront and never gone by bike. That, and I’ve never ridden any of the GAP at all and that has to change.


byogman

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Feb 21 2013 at 3:46pm #

Sorry, neglected extension 4:

Exploring Duck Hollow a bit.

Also, a start time and location, which I will stick to, so if you want to come spur of the moment it’s fine. Starbucks at corner of Forbes and Shady, 8am.

Cheers,
Ben


reddan

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Feb 21 2013 at 4:12pm #

Ben, you could always combine Duck Hollow w/ Flowers-Tesla…would make a nice loop, and a chance to stop for refreshments in Hazelwood before tackling the climb.


byogman

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Feb 22 2013 at 9:46am #

So I’m clear, you’re suggesting getting over to the duck hollow trail from 2nd avenue veering off to the right and crossing the tracks just before the Glenwood Bridge? Just want to confirm that it connects first I guess. Google street view only takes you so far in these situations.

If it does, I agree it would be a nicer order, better breaks things up than doing duck hollow right before cutting across Frick, and better than doing Duck hollow between Tesla and the spur down to the waterfront by saving lefts across Browns Hill Road and letting me use the full downhill for speed.


Mick

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Feb 22 2013 at 9:52am #

Connecting with the trail just short of teh Glenwood bridge involkves going over the railroad tracks. Not that I would know about that, of course, because that is illegal and I’ve never done anything illegal. But I’ve heard that it’s easy to access the path from there.

Of course, I heard it in an indirect fashion, because no one I know has ever done anything illegal either.

But I’ve heard it’s really easy with no problems and pretty good visibility.

I wouldn’t recommend it.


byogman

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Feb 22 2013 at 10:02am #

Thanks Mick,

How foolish of me. Dan, my apologies.

I’ll be sure to be on the lookout in case anyone is doing something so foolish and ill advised. Likewise for anyone breaking the 25mph speed limit downhill on Browns Hill Road or the Homestead Grays bridge.


fultonco

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Feb 23 2013 at 10:21am #

Looks like an interesting and fun ride. Any trails, not paved at this time of year, are going to be difficult to ride. Would prefer sticking to roads until the trails have had time to dry and firm-up.


mrosswog

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Feb 23 2013 at 12:23pm #

I like the original idea of an east end road ride that tackles dornbush. Not so much interested in all of the exploring aspects of the ride (I understand and agree that is a fun way to spend a Sunday morning, but hiking over train tracks and gravel is not my cup of tea on the road bike).

If you’re interested – when it gets a little warmer, ill lead a ride that starts in squirrel hill and includes some fun (torturous) climbs throughout the east.


AWallRider

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Feb 23 2013 at 1:39pm #

Not the east end (but close)… there is typically a ride that leaves from Aspinwall most Sunday mornings (Spring, Summer, Fall and the occasional nice winter weekend). I assume we will start riding again soon. We typically leave at dawn to maximize family time later in the day and typically do 30 early in the year. We add distance after the marathon building up to 50-60 miles, 15-17 mph pace. Typically 3-6 riders and mostly head out toward Saxonburg/Butler via various routes. We have an email group to coordinate. Anyone is welcome to join. The same email group coordinates other rides later in the day for those who are looking for a slower/later ride.

PM me and I can send you email list information.


byogman

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Feb 23 2013 at 10:00pm #

fultonco, thanks about the warning on the trails.

I only have one bike at the moment, a hybrid with smooth-ish but not narrow road only tires. Depending on who shows and what things look like and how people feel about it, we could follow the basic outlines without the trail stuff and come up to Braddock Avenue via Parkview/Summerset/Commercial/Church. Or maybe simpler to just cross over the river on the rankin bridge and get onto Braddock Avenue there. Was just listing plan A.

mrosswog, sounds like fun. Any time you want to lead is good by me.

AWallRider, thanks for the pointer. Not sure if I want to latch onto something starting up there, or try and keep this rolling in Squirrel Hill. But never hurts to have the info. Will PM you.


byogman

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Feb 24 2013 at 9:05pm #

Had a couple interested folks have to duck out, next week looks much more promising for attendance, but I did take a 20 mile ride today and said I’d post the endomodo log of it so here goes:

http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/161779964/8105330

A nice ride on a nice, low traffic morning. A bit misleading because I neglected to stop my workout when I actually got home (the tiny little notch on Beacon) and so when I ran back out 35 minutes later or so, I heard endomodo talking and shut it down. Without that, was pretty much right on the 20 miles in 2 hours target I had at the outset with some tough climbing in there.

Started off when I didn’t see how to get from shady/walnut nicely over to beachwood so went the other way and did negley for the heck of it. Tesla street (sigh) is still my nemesis, I didn’t have as much energy as I needed so even though I got further than in the fall I still didn’t finish it. If I tackle it first and plan my eating better maybe I’ll have more luck. Biggest thing though I think is low speed balance standing on the pedals. Lack of such coordination plus when I tried to switch over my legs were already rubbery… I think I need to commit earlier.

Since I was alone and had already done my extensions when I was called by my wife, I came straight back, so missed the eastern part through Frick on nine mile run. Will have to check that out some time.

Anyways all to report for this time. Happy riding all and hope to see a few of you next Sunday!

Cheers, Ben.


Drewbacca

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Feb 24 2013 at 9:11pm #

Thanks for the update! I would have actually made it today but on most days I’m 1.5hrs away by car and I didn’t make it into town until a bit after 9.


byogman

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Feb 25 2013 at 12:57pm #

I think everyone has a different starting time preference, 8am was just somewhat of a happy medium just for me in terms of A: My actually being awake in time to get ready and get out there and B: The ride ending enough to not meaningfully impact family plans for the day. The latter part makes it really hard for me to push it much later without having only a very short ride, I’m sorry.

I’m going to put it on the calendar for next week at the same place, time, and duration (forbes and shady starbucks, starting 8am going 2-2.5 hours). Yesterday a set of coincidences made it a solo flight, but overall PM response was pretty good, so I don’t think that formula is bad. Want to try a second time and see anyway.

In the meantime, if you want to do this and think you make it on Sunday, make your route suggestions known. I’ve got one vote for scouting Dornbush so far, which would be easy enough to get to and an opportunity for some type 2 fun, but need a lot more than that to get to a real route. Otherwise I’ll just start playing with google maps until I’ve got a pretty shape.

Cheers,
Ben


Drewbacca

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Feb 25 2013 at 1:27pm #

I wasn’t suggesting to change the time, the time would be good for me if not due to my current circumstances. I was just noting that I *almost* made it.


byogman

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Feb 25 2013 at 10:22pm #

Hope to catch you some time, organized ride or just out there generally. I’m reasonably recognizable by the funny diy wire hanger cell phone mount (sometimes phone in white case inside, sometimes not, depending on weather/laziness) at the front of my helmet.


byogman

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Feb 28 2013 at 12:59pm #

OK, here’s the rough idea, first draft

Debating whether to do oval or highland park reservoir. Depends on interest. If we do the oval it will involve either the grass or cutting over from lake drive (mentioned here http://bikepgh.org/mb/topic/a-moderately-safe-way-to-get-to-the-oval-highland-park-reservoir/).

Also consider reversing direction on the whole route mainly because circuit drive up through schenley park would be such a scenic finisher. But one way or another, something in highland park vicinity, hit laurenceville, polish hill, a tiny bit of the North shore and Washington’s landing.

Feedback? I’m intentionally setting out to go places I’ve never been on bike (laurenceville, polish hill, Washinton’s landing) so this may be kind of screwed up.

Planning, like for last week’s “route” mostly involved me dragging around on google maps and dropping to street view from time to time + a little ping of the boards, an element of luck, and backup in the form of GPS. This time no trail.

Liked the feedback I got last time. Now I’m just hoping to hook in some fellow riders. Who’s in?


fultonco

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Feb 28 2013 at 5:37pm #

If you will make some allowances for someone coming off a long winter and not quite in top form yet, this sounds like a nice early season challenging ride.


byogman

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Feb 28 2013 at 11:03pm #

Of course, we ride at the pace we ride together. I haven’t been in “top form” in 13 years.

I will also be watching the weather a bit in terms of moisture as the ride gets closer. Not go/no go, barring something ridiculous I go. But depending on the bike and if the trail is wet, that may be no fun, so might replace trail riding (thinking of washington’s landing especially) with some more meandering around the north side.


richierich

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Mar 1 2013 at 11:32am #

It should be easy enough to work around, but I suspect the Strip District trail from downtown won’t be rideable. I tried to use it a week or so ago, and sections of it were covered in very large ice boulders, with no place to go around them and really no way to walk over them since they’re slippery and full of ankle-twisting holes. I’d be surprised if several feet of ice melted that quickly. It looks like they’ve been plowing the snow from above down onto the trail.

Looks like a nice route, though!


Elmo

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Mar 1 2013 at 1:02pm #

I’m in for this, pending weather atrocity.


byogman

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Mar 1 2013 at 1:19pm #

I took a test ride today over lunch for the strip district trail and washington’s landing bits. The ice boulder situation is resolved.

Washington’s landing was fun, funny that that trail takes you through a restaurant’s patio (re-opens in a month). A little less to it than I thought, but a worthwhile lunchtime bit of scouting.

I will say, the main road didn’t look interesting at all, trail was friendly enough for my hybrid without knobby tires but probably not so great for a road bike (I say this without ever having owned one, and having done only two test rides, but I ~think~ it’s a reasonably accurate statement).

So, I think we’re looking at a little more North side exploration, suggestions welcome, otherwise I’ll just drag google maps and make another shape to my liking.


buffalo buffalo

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Mar 4 2013 at 5:39pm #

Used to work on WashLanding, can confirm that (a) the trail is not really doable on narrow road tires, (b) the road is boring and not well paved (cement block with giant gaps), (c) riding through the middle of the restaurant patio and the boat dock is weird at best, if not downright obnoxious, and (d) there’s not much there, on the whole. Nice view of Downtown from the downstream point/bridge, though.


buffalo buffalo

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Mar 4 2013 at 5:45pm #

(ps i am interested, and if I can ever someday convince myself to get up for a sunday 7am bus, I may be able to join y’all, but… hell, I almost never get up that early during the week.)


fultonco

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Mar 4 2013 at 6:37pm #

@ buffalo buffalo – the trail on Herr’s island is nice but it is not a place where one will be going very fast. One day, I am going to have a bite at Redfin Blues, the restaurant. Taking the trail, all the way to the eastern end gives a nice view of the Allegheny River and 40th Street bridge. Stay on the trail, not the road and you will avoid the big gaps of which you mentioned.

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