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Anyone up for Sunday rides starting/finishing in the east end?

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buffalo buffalo

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Mar 4 2013 at 6:40pm #

pretty sure other than the restaurant and dock the trail is gravel the whole way up, which as i mentioned makes it pretty unsuitable for road bikes…


byogman

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Mar 5 2013 at 12:51am #

Slightly to my surprise we actually did wind up running out there… changed the route a decent bit overall the day of because I hadn’t figured out how to do turn by turn vocalized directions on a custom route on my phone. andrewsherman and elmo picked up the slack. It was fun. Would love to have you out there.

PM me your contact info if you like, I’m more inclined to have some types of route/pace/timing discussions via email than bouncing everything through the board.


Mick

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Mar 5 2013 at 1:02pm #

Pacing comments through the board could be useful for people who are contemplating joing these rides. Possibly routing comments as well.


byogman

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Mar 5 2013 at 2:28pm #

I didn’t get an endomodo recording last time (stupid, stupid me), so I have only the first data point, when I rode solo last Sunday in Feb in terms of my own personal pacing and how that might match up with others. That was at a very wide range of effort levels corresponding to intentionally varied terrain (Negley, DD hill and some other less exaggerated climbs but also some mileage extending very flat stuff) but it centered on moderate and was about 10mph with a couple very short stops.

The route was vastly flatter this time, the ride a bit longer (maybe 2 1/2 hours instead of 2 hours even) and the average effort started very low, climbing to moderate in spots on the way back. Still nothing but a couple, couple minute stops. Average speed I’m guessing would have to be somewhat higher since there was really only significant slow climb, but hard for me to gauge how much.

Those who rode, if you have experience with your pacing and how this lined up, what would your guess be?


richierich

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Mar 5 2013 at 3:08pm #

I mapped the route in google maps (possibly with slightly different side streets in some parts where my memory failed, but not enough to alter the total mileage) and got 25 miles door to door for me, over a little more than 2.5 hours out. The time includes stopping at Starbucks before the ride start and short stops during. I’d estimate average traveling speed 11 mph.


byogman

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Mar 6 2013 at 4:31pm #

Thinking about riverview park as the next destination. Never been.
What do folks think? Anything to know about the destination/route other than that it’s a climb?


rice rocket

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Mar 6 2013 at 4:58pm #

byogman wrote:Thinking about riverview park as the next destination. Never been.
What do folks think? Anything to know about the destination/route other than that it’s a climb?

Its a great route. You can get there without hitting any major roads once you hit the Trail (minus the Blvd gap to Point State Park).


Ahlir

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Mar 7 2013 at 9:50pm #

Another really nice way to get there is to start in Millvale and go Hoffman→Mt. Royal→Ivory→Perrysville.
For a city person like me, it feels like you plunge, for a bit, into seemingly real country, then gently drift back into the city. And, if you want, you can be back for lunch.


salty

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Mar 8 2013 at 12:11am #

Riverview is a nice ride, from my house it’s a 20-25 mi loop depending on exactly how I go. I usually take the N. Side trail there and then find another way back and stop downtown for lunch. It’s a pretty mild climb, just kinda long.

I can send you some routes… I might even try to make it although I’m not really a morning person.


Mikhail

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Mar 8 2013 at 10:57am #

We (my coworkers and I) go to River View during lunch on a regular basis — http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2210673

This one similar to Ahlir’s one — http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2210702


byogman

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Mar 8 2013 at 12:22pm #

Looks pretty great. Was planning the same way up and pretty much same way back down, though Ahlir’s route description is interesting.

Bothers me, but obviously missing the lunch at this moment. But if you do start riding out to river view during lunch let me know, would love to join.


Mikhail

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Mar 8 2013 at 5:52pm #

Ben,

When we go there we usually start around noon from our office. and if no one has meetings at 13:00 then we take a little bit longer lunch and go there. Otherwise we shorten the route or chose another one so we can be back by 12:50 and people could get shower.

Last season it was almost every Wednesday. I’ll tell you our scheduler for incoming season when we have it.


Ahlir

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Mar 8 2013 at 8:47pm #

If starting in SqHill, another option is Highland (either Dallas/../ELB or Shady), through the zoo and across to Etna, up to Friday and down to Millvale, joining the earlier route.

Coming back has many options. If you still insist on climbing, there’s Fineview, where you might catch a glimpse of our boy mayor. Then a nice leisurely descent to the rivers. Or maybe down to the prison and a sprint up Beaver (maybe you, not me). Then up one side or the other of the Mon, with a fine selection of climbs back up to SqHill.


fultonco

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Mar 9 2013 at 7:26am #

Forbes and Shady at 0800 hours this Sunday ?


Val

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Mar 9 2013 at 9:43am #

@byogman, you may or may not like this general route but I ride it, sometimes. Head upstream (to Shaler) and cross the bridge to Highland Park area (traffic through there can be fast, watch out) and bear right, back towards town. Then you can ride all the way to the Point area on any number of variations, cross back North and head home. I mostly go that way when I feel like rambling and maybe stopping for a beer or a bite of lunch somewhere. Now that Spring is upon us (and you’re riding road tires!), you may want to check out a route up to North Park. I live in Ben Avon and include it on road routes sometimes in the warmer months; of course the Park has lots to ride, see or do. And when it’s finally Summer again and you’re up there, be sure to pinpoint the softserve ice cream stand!


Val

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Mar 9 2013 at 9:50am #

@Byogman, I forgot to add, study the general loop-type roads at Riverview Park, on Maps, and remember this. Riding counter-clockwise (on Park roads) will take you approximately 1.25 miles from the lowest point (West-side park entrance) to where the entrance to the Observatory driveway is. However, entering (again, from the West-side entrance) and turning left (generally clockwise) will put you on a slightly steeper, shorter climb (1.0) to the same spot. I mention this only in case you get there and feel like doing a few laps. RP is also home to some short but fun trail segments that are mostly wide and hardpacked. You could ride them with multi-terrain type tires, once it’s better weather and they all loop back in to each other, somewhere…


byogman

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Mar 9 2013 at 9:00pm #

fultonco, yes, definitely riding, same place, starting same place, same time.

Tried waypointer in combo with google nav during the week and couldn’t get it to work happily just yet so I’m going to keep it simple (up from the trail end around the old jail, straight down federal/perrysville) for the first go, unless someone who’s done another route at least a couple times wants to join the ride and lead their preferred way.


Val

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Mar 9 2013 at 9:16pm #

For what it’s worth, you will be much happier making the climb, if you cycle to the prison, then ride through the bottom of Brighton to the West entrance of the park. I always go down Perrysville and it’s a hell of a hill. I’ll be interested to see how you like it…


salty

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Mar 9 2013 at 9:53pm #

I’m not gonna make it tomorrow but when you get to the end of the trail make a right then another right and a quick left on Eckert to go under 65. At some point it turns into McClure. Make a right on woods run, go across Brighton, past the library, then when you get near the park you have to bear right then make a steep hard right (I think the park entrance sign is there)


salty

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Mar 9 2013 at 10:08pm #

Here’s a track… IIRC this was teamdecaf brucing me by like 5 min on T-o-R, then we rode back to town together.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/175019517


mrosswog

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Mar 9 2013 at 10:11pm #

Rode outside for the first time in two months today. Tackled Sycamore, Flowers/Tesla and finally – Dornbush St.

Dornbush was a nasty little climb. The first part feels like its 30% then it “flattens out” to something closer to 10%.

Once I hit the summit of the hill a couple of neighborhood people stopped what they were doing and congratulated me. Felt awesome! Tokay St, which runs parallel to Dornbush looks just as intense, and is running the right way (I had to go UP the wrong way on dornbush – which is one way / down).

I will definitely be planning / leading a group road ride though the east hills, featuring the toughest climbs I have used to get ready for the dirty dozen.


byogman

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Mar 9 2013 at 10:57pm #

Val, was planning on approaching from the west.

Looks like Salty gave the same route I was planning.

BTW, Salty, nice to see you can cut over at 31st street that way. How friendly/unfriendly is that bridge would you say?

mrosswog, sounds like a heck of a ride, unexpectedly great moment to get cheered on by the neighbors like that. Am curious how you think Dornbush ranks among the dirty dozen. Not that I have any benchmark myself other than flowers/killborn/tesla, but I think it would be interesting to share with the group.


salty

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Mar 9 2013 at 11:04pm #

I don’t think you can take the 31st SB at all now. It used to be open to river ave but not to 28 so it was basically a giant bike lane – almost no traffic. But I’m pretty sure it is completely closed and impassible now. When it reopens it will probably be about as much fun as 40th SB which is to say not at all.


byogman

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Mar 10 2013 at 7:08am #

AGH!! SO, my phone didn’t adjust times last night (weird, my prior super el cheapo phone did). So, I’ll be there at, ahem, 9am. Sorry folks. If nobody’s there, I certainly understand.


mrosswog

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Mar 10 2013 at 9:07am #

not sure if it really compares to any of the DD hills. It has a bit of personality on its own. It’s definitely approaching the steepness of Boustead and canton. More like Boustead in that there is a second half that feels relentless even though its not long.


byogman

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Mar 10 2013 at 12:07pm #

So, there was a ride. Myself and Ahlir (who show up twice and I see actually sent me a PM last night speculating as to who might miss the boat owing to daylight savings (whoops)). He led a nice meandering course down to highland park (with a stopover in homewood), down along Butler street through Lawrenceville, crossing the Allegheny at the 40th street bridge and riding up Stanton. continuing Mt. Troy Road and Ivory Avenue past the cemetery. Did the descent mostly on North Charles street, which was a good angle and option to see. Return from downtown was via polish hill.


byogman

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Mar 11 2013 at 5:38pm #

Ok, so I just know now with passover cleaning starting in earnest, no way that I’ll be able to ride next time (the 17th).


byogman

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Apr 4 2013 at 2:16pm #

OK, there was post I meant to put in to cancel the following two weeks too.

But back in the saddle again this Sunday for sure. Am thinking of going climbing again. Totally open about which hills. Suggestions?


byogman

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Apr 5 2013 at 3:39pm #

I don’t have any response here, so I’m going to work the folks at my synagogue over shabbos. Got a couple people who might go.

Most likely starting/ending point would be Lubavitch Center (2100 Wightman street). Most likely time would be 9am not 8am.

But no guarantees on anything, there are just too many possibilities. Just come over if you don’t mind starting your own solo riding there that day.

If folks from Synagogue do go it’ll be a low key and likely pretty short ride. If not I’ll probably just wander around and try and tackle some hills. But the third possibility which would leave you solo is that I may just try to ride with my girls down on the EFT.

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