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buffalo buffalo

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Sep 9 2013 at 9:25pm #

Huh. Now it works for me. /shrug


Vannevar

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Sep 9 2013 at 9:40pm #

Excellent comic, and it does a good sane job of the middle path.
I’m thinking this may work for the folks still nursing XP (like me)

I miss Yehuda Moon. Only comic or site I ever subscribed to.

EditToAdd: and now I see it’s working up above, too. Even better.


Mick

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Sep 9 2013 at 10:10pm #

JaySherman5000 wrote:where I was steered to John Forester.

I followed a bunch of links to finally find John Forester saying Amterdam was a “pre-automotive obsolete city” and , you know?

That sounded pretty good to me (and maybe like Pittsburgh, too).


Vannevar

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Sep 10 2013 at 10:05pm #

Man Who Changed His Mind
I want to thank everybody who discussed this, I wanted to say I found several comments persuasive and I’ve had to Change My Mind, and so I wanted to say thank you.

@Astrobiker’s comments about enabling access for a wide range of citizens kind of jolted me that it’s not “all about me” and I think they’re quite right. @BuffaloBuffalo links to John Franklin (who I had not heard of) took me to things I can’t support.

I support equitable access to the streets, and I want that 8-year old and 70-year old to be able to ride in the city. I never considered bike lanes from an “accessibility” perspective.

I’m still going to take the lane, but yinz have changed my mind about Bike Lanes. Thank you.

Stand by for the Drudge headline: somebody changes mind in web forum.

Special thanks to Astrobiker, Buffalo^2, and Stu.


quizbot

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Sep 10 2013 at 11:35pm #

Friendship Ave parklet inbound is a perfect example of how good intentions are dismally implemented.

The city knew they’d be moving to metered kiosks in less than a year and could’ve easily shifted the inbound parking lane to the park side of the street (as it is on the outbound side of the park, duh), providing a much safer track for cyclists.

It’s kind of mind boggling how ineptly the city can engineer a 3 block stretch of pavement.


rsprake

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Sep 11 2013 at 8:38am #

I find Braddock Ave to be exactly the same as it was before the lane was installed. Shitty. Some days I just coast along the sidewalk and use the pedestrian signal at Forbes and Braddock. I don’t really know how to make it better.

The Regent Square Civic Association is working on some additional traffic calming measures but that’s probably years away. Turns out this shit is expensive. :)

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