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C&O Canal Closed during Government Shutdown.

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Benzo

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Oct 3 2013 at 10:30am #

C&O Canal trail is closed, being as it is a national park.

The NPS website redirects to a page with this info:

“Because of the federal government shutdown, all national parks are closed and National Park Service webpages are not operating. For more information, go to http://www.doi.gov.”;

C&O Canal trust has this info:

During the shutdown, the Park is closed. This includes the towpath and all facilities. Visitation is strictly prohibited.

*Visitor traffic, whether on foot, bike, or horse, is strictly prohibited.
*Bicyclists planning rides from Pittsburgh to DC on the GAP and C&O Canal should plan to turn back at Cumberland.
*All Visitors Centers are CLOSED.
*Hiker/Bikers and campgrounds are CLOSED.
*The Canal Quarters lockhouses are CLOSED.
*All restroom facilities, both permanent and portable, are CLOSED.
*Handles have been removed from all well pumps.
*The only Park staff that will be on duty will be law enforcement rangers.
*The portion of the Capital Crescent Trail that runs parallel to the towpath in DC is managed by the C&O Canal NHP and is CLOSED.
*All access roads to the Park are CLOSED. This means you will not be able to trailer boats to boat ramps along the towpath.
*Interpretive and educational programming in the Park will be temporarily suspended. School field trips to the Park will need to be rescheduled once Park staff has returned.
*Volunteer events and events requiring special use permits will not be able to take place.
*All volunteers working in an official capacity should cease volunteer activities immediately and not enter the Park’s premises.

More info at C&O canal trust


helen s

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Oct 3 2013 at 12:19pm #

I have seen people heading to DC on the local trails nearly every day this week. They will be in for surprises.


jonawebb

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Oct 3 2013 at 12:36pm #

They may be able to hop on Amtrak at Cumberland and get to Union Station that way. But they’d need to find a way to get their bikes shipped (probably a bike shop in Cumberland can do this), since the station there doesn’t have checked baggage.
I don’t think there’s a good way to get to DC from Cumberland riding a bike, with the C&O closed.


Drewbacca

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Oct 3 2013 at 1:44pm #

If I were trekking, I’d just ignore the “shutdown.” It’s kind of silly since there are next to no services provided along the C&O anyways. How does this shutdown affect the average biker? The only thing I can think of is that there is no one checking the water quality at the 5/10 of the pumps that actually work.

I imagine it will be a while before the porta-johns get backed up.

Still, one more example of how this shut down bs actually does impact my life.


Vannevar

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Oct 3 2013 at 3:44pm #

Agree with @Drewbacca, if I had a ride scheduled I’d persist. The impact is: no waterpumps or portapotties at the hiker-biker sites, so a bit more pre-planning and logistics is in order.

I get that the justification is, they’re securing the pumps and the johns because – who knows, they could be shut down for months and don’t want to be responsible for a health problem, gosh! – but it seems a bit contrived and over-the-top.

However, the whole damn thing is contrived and over-the-top, and none of my displeasure is pointed at the National Park Service.


jonawebb

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Oct 3 2013 at 3:47pm #

The C&O canal trail is difficult at best. I wouldn’t want to ride it dodging law enforcement rangers and without water.


Drewbacca

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Oct 3 2013 at 4:00pm #

I can’t stand the iodized water… last time I went through I filled up a 3L camelbak which was plenty of water to get through the desolate 60mile section. You can cross the bridge at the Paw Paw tunnel and go into the WV town of the same name to stock up along the way.


salty

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Oct 3 2013 at 8:42pm #

yeah, I didn’t care for the iodine water – with 2x20oz bottles plus another for Gatorade I was fine (I filled up in the am and wherever we ate lunch). no porta-johns would kinda suck but there’s the woods…

although, there are some gates and if they somehow blocked that cantilevered section it would be hard to get past. I dunno, the guy in the other thread apparently just finished, we’ll see what he says. I didn’t even consider this and would have been pissed as hell if my trip had been ruined by it, I finished on Monday.


stefb

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Oct 4 2013 at 3:35am #

There goes our plans to ride there finally.


ieverhart

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Oct 4 2013 at 8:52am #

Saw this on a friend’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100267020680259&set=a.10100116545428869.2259189.4804620&type=1&theater


jonawebb

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Oct 4 2013 at 2:37pm #

The trail is, apparently open to through riders, including campers, though the port-a-potties have been ziptied shut and the pump handles removed.
See http://bikepgh.org/mb/topic/gap-rider-at-mile-0-afternoon-of-92613/#post-283911
Oh, watch out for chains across the Capital Crescent Trail, and who knows, maybe others: http://www.cctrail.org/CCT_Conditions.htm


Jason

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Oct 7 2013 at 8:00pm #

We have been planning this trip for a while now. Since the shutdown, I have been trying to find some info, it looks like this is the best source for up to date info.

We were planning on leaving PGH on Friday, are we going to be able to pass through? We are not camping, just passing through on the trail. It the Paw Paw tunnel open?

Any stories from people who have done the trial in the last few days? I ran into a gentleman at Thick Bikes who was leaving to camp on the trail this past Friday. I wish I would have asked for his info.


Vannevar

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Oct 7 2013 at 11:48pm #

Jason, if you’ll pm me some contact info, I’ll pass it along to a group that’s a few days in front of you. (In Rockwood Monday evening) You might also call one of the bike shops in Cumberland.


Jason

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Oct 8 2013 at 6:07am #

PM sent

I will call some shops today.


Drewbacca

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Oct 8 2013 at 9:03am #

The shop in Hancock is probably a good bet, they offer shuttle services all over the place and are likely very aware of any changes in conditions.


sarapgh2

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Oct 8 2013 at 1:43pm #

You should be fine to ride, and ride only. If you try to camp, use the bathrooms, “liberate” the waterpumps, etc. you’ll get hassled. The rangers have been quite fair in not messing with riders as long as they’re not taking advantage of the situation.

If you’re planning on camping, don’t. If you’re just planning on riding, you’ll be fine. Be nice to the rangers you do see, they’re not the problem and they’ve got a good perspective on the situation.


erok

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Oct 8 2013 at 2:09pm #

grrrrr. i haven’t ridden the C&O since 2001, finally planned a trip leaving saturday, and the stupid government ruins it.

please keep posting info if you hear of any, and i’ll do the same, although haven’t heard anything different


erok

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Oct 8 2013 at 2:13pm #

why isn’t the federal highway system closed down? this stupid shutdown will end immediately


Jason

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Oct 8 2013 at 2:24pm #

Sarapgh2: that is exactly what we want to do. We have hotel reservations made. I will pack enough water and food for the days ride. Just passing through.


jonawebb

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Oct 8 2013 at 2:25pm #

@erok The water thing isn’t too bad. Just bring some extra bottles. You can probably figure out what to do about the PortaPotties being closed. Not being able to camp is annoying, but you could stay in Hancock at the C&O Bike Store (they have cheap beds, which are better than camping, somewhat) and there’s probably someplace people can recommend between there and DC.


Steven

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Oct 8 2013 at 3:27pm #

erok wrote:why isn’t the federal highway system closed down?

Because the states run the roads of the Interstate Highway System, not the feds. Much like all the bike trails built in part with federal money but owned by some more local group, and still open.

(ETA: Wait, was that one of those “rhetorical question” thingies that all the kids are talking about these days?)


Drewbacca

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Oct 8 2013 at 3:29pm #

The C&O is where I decided that my next set of panniers will have a pocket to carry an extra water bottle… I think that four or five would be optimal. It was a mistake on my part not to mount my third bottle cage on the frame before my ride. That was in early July, it’s much cooler now so I’m sure water will last.

I filled my 3L camelbak at the bike shop in Hancock before riding solo back to Cumberland to join family for a hiking trip. That bike shop is a real treasure! I have to agree that it is only “somewhat” better than camping LOL but for $10 you get a fire pit, a shelter, a shower, electrical outlets, insect netting… I can’t complain about sleeping on a yogamat over plywood (in other words, a sleeping pad is helpful… but they have a few so if you are the only one staying, there is plenty of padding).

Then I lost my camera a few miles outside of Cumberland :( DOH! But it was found via Reddit and is now back in my hands! :D :D


salty

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Oct 8 2013 at 6:20pm #

there are definitely a few commercial campsites near the trail, although that obviously limits your itinerary choices. I definitely remember one in Little Orleans (MP 140) and another in Harper’s Ferry (MP 60). I camped at the Inn in Frostburg ($22 for 2 people, totally worth it for the showers) but that’s on the GAP.


urbanrider

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Oct 8 2013 at 7:33pm #

@Jason, someone in Cumberland who might be able to give you info is Gail Hall. She and husband own a nice B&B (Inn on Decatur), local bike shop and trail tour operation (Mountain Side Bikes). Her number is 301-722-4887 (office) or 240-727-7039 (mobile).

Jim


Vannevar

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Oct 8 2013 at 7:36pm #

erok wrote:please keep posting info if you hear of any, and i’ll do the same, although haven’t heard anything different

Erok, if you follow @ramblingrider on twitter, they’ve arrived in Cumberland Tuesday evening, departing on the C&O Wednesday morning. They know there’ folks interested in what’s happening and they’ll be tweeting reports.

Cheers, V.


Vannevar

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Oct 9 2013 at 11:10am #

Following @ramblingrider and also @crossvino on Twitter, they departed Cumberland for DC a few hours ago. Local bike shop reports that nobody is being asked to leave the trail. Carrying extra water and TP.


Jason

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Oct 9 2013 at 12:39pm #

Erok: did you cancel your trip or are you still going? As it turns out, we are leaving Saturday also.


erok

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Oct 9 2013 at 3:56pm #

still doing it. the guesthouse in cumberland where we’re staying says that people are still riding it.

our plan: Connelsville->Cumberland->Hancock->Harper’s Ferry->DC


erok

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Oct 9 2013 at 3:57pm #

i’ll be on a red salsa vaya with red/black panniers and red/black helmet. funny how that worked out.


salty

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Oct 9 2013 at 5:06pm #

Cool, have fun. That’s pretty close to what we did which was Connellsville (60) -> Frostburg (75) -> Little Orleans (60) -> Antietam Creek (70) -> DC (70) – you’re doing a lot longer day 2 and getting shorter days 4/5 in return.

FWIW, we rode from 10 to 7:30 on day 2, but we took a lot of breaks: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/384890160


Vannevar

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Oct 9 2013 at 5:11pm #

Just saw @RamblingRider tweet that they rode Cumberland to Hancock today without any incident.


HennSC

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Oct 9 2013 at 8:02pm #

Glad to have stumbled upon this. We had planned our C&O trip months back for this Friday. Based on what I am reading here, there doesn’t appear to be any reason to put it off as long as we aren’t camping (we aren’t) and are courteous to any rangers we come across. Happy trails and thanks for the info all!


Jason

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Oct 9 2013 at 10:09pm #

Erok: I’ll be on a specialized Sirius with bamboo fenders, rear rack and bags, front basket. Black helmet. Sally will be on a trek pilot with a rack and bags, yellow helmet.

We are taking a more leisurely trip, PGH > Connelsville > Rockwood > Cumberland > Hancock > Harpers Ferry (spending an extra day there) > DC


sarapgh2

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Oct 10 2013 at 8:32am #

Sounds like a fun trip Jason! Remember that Harpers Ferry exhibits will be closed since it’s a national park as well. :(

some fav food stops on the C&O – Hancock-Weavers; Williamsport-Desert Rose Cafe; Shepherdstown-Mellow Moods Cafe; Brunswick-Beans in the Belry.

The Shepherdstown stop is well worth it if you can; really great food there. Brunswick also great for lunch. For the HF-DC section that will be your best bet for food on the trail since the concession stand at Great Falls will also be closed.

Enjoy the ride.


salty

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Oct 10 2013 at 9:14am #

We went to Blue Moon cafe in Sheperdstown, the food was great and they have one of the most spectacular patio/garden areas I’ve ever seen at a restaurant.

Definitely seems like a cool little town in general. The only downside is it’s a pretty steep climb to get there from the trail. We set up camp and rode our unladen bikes but it would be tough loaded down. There is a switchback trail up to the bridge, or you can take the road which is more direct but steeper.


sarapgh2

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Oct 10 2013 at 12:31pm #

salty-nice Blue Moon Cafe pic:) I thought the switchback was pretty easy, even with a loaded bike. No reason to take the road. Then you can just cruise through the university campus and come up right behind all the restaurants.


helen s

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Oct 10 2013 at 12:38pm #

I saw a bunch of loaded cyclists heading out this morning when I was riding in to work. I am guessing it was some of you. I rang my bell for all of you- have a great trip!


salty

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Oct 10 2013 at 5:29pm #

sara – not my picture (i just found it on the internet), but i liked it…

The degree of difficulty of getting there was greatly increased by the fact that it was pitch black and between the two of us we didn’t have a decent light. The battery for my Cygolite apparently vibrated loose and fell out at some point (FWIW, the replacement I ordered fits a lot more snugly than the old one did). I had a backup light but it was pathetically inadequate, so we had to ride <10mph and I actually missed the switchback on the way up (I saw the gate, but it was closed). My friend doesn’t ride at night, so his light was even dimmer. We also had no idea where we were going to eat; we asked some random person on the street who recommended it. It was definitely the best meal we had on the whole trip.


rachel_ding

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Oct 12 2013 at 4:19pm #

Erok and I made it to Connellsville. Cumberland tomorrow. Fingers crossed on the C&O. Anyone else out here?


PghTrekker

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Oct 12 2013 at 5:40pm #

Glad I found this thread. I am leaving Pittsburgh tomorrow for a through trip to DC. Staying in hotels/B&B’s/hostels the whole way. Stops = Ohiopyle – Frostburg – Hancock – Harpers Ferry – Arlington.

Good to see so many people still going through in spite of the shutdown! I still am concerned about riding the C&O, but it looks like many people are going through without incident. Has anyone heard of any issues with the rangers? I haven’t seen any reports of anyone getting stopped. I checked out the feeds from ramblingrider and crossvino and it looks like they had a safe, but wet, trip. :)

Anyone else departing from Pgh this weekend?

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