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btotheen

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Nov 13 2013 at 3:48am #

does anyone have any good suggestions for places to watch the dirty dozen? particularly if i wanted to ride between a few of the hills and still catch the action? thanks


stefb

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Nov 13 2013 at 5:50am #

The south side has a few hills close together (welsh way then berry/holt/Eleanor).

Canton and Boustead are close to each other, though if riding a bike over there solo, it can be kinda sketchy.


StuInMcCandless

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Nov 13 2013 at 8:07am #

Getting to the top of Burgess is fairly easy by the 8 Perrysville bus, which runs fairly often, and the 11 Fineview bus, which actually is on Hazleton for a little bit, but does not run very often.

You will not spectate all the hills in one day. Pick maybe three and try to hit those. SHB from a hike off Perrysville is an excellent choice. Getting to BHE and Welsh Way from the top (48 Arlington) should be pretty easy, as should Flowers-Tesla from the top (61C).


Ahlir

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Nov 13 2013 at 9:02am #

Out of curiosity , does the DD feature any twittering? It’s be nice to know which hills are currently in play.


Swalfoort

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Nov 13 2013 at 9:19am #

I have road marshalled this event for the past couple of years. The first year, I posted information here, so everyone could get it. Last year somewas was tweeting the information. I don’t tweet, so the old school way of posting here worked better for me.

As for spectating, I would suggest you try to get to no more than three of the hills on a given event day.

My recommendations:

The first hill in Fox Chapel is fun. It’s also the largest group of participants.

Logan in Millvale is probably my favorite. I like to position myself near the bend, where I can watch in both directions.

The top of Burgess is nice.

Canton is the classic. Please, please, please, be polite, and arrive at the base of Canton EARLY. Like at least 10 minutes before any of the riders. Even then, expect to walk a couple of blocks to the base of Canton. There is extremely limited parking. Everyone wants the primo spot at the base of the hill at the last minute. But, the cyclists need that room for their startup at the base of the hill. As a spectator, I wish the road at the base of the Canton hill could be closed to motor vehicles about the time the cyclists top Mt. Washington…..but I digress.

I also find a couple of the hills on the South Side to be fun to watch. I’ll see if I can remember the specific one I like….it escapes me now.

Again, be aware that these cyclists move quickly. If you plan to spectate at more than one location, don’t plan on making it to every hill, or even every other hill. You can do every third hill, maybe. But at whatever location, please plan on arriving early and waiting for the riders. This day is about them. Let’s not add new levels of difficulty by asking them to share the road DURING THE HILL CLIMB with you in your nice warm car.


Swalfoort

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Nov 13 2013 at 9:23am #

P.S. If you are planning to cycle between hills, you might want to do an easy three ….Logan (Millvale) , Mt. Washington and something in the the Welsh/Berry/Eleanor grouping on the Southside. I find that the DD riders get from the top of Burgess to Mt. Washington as quickly as I can in my car….so catch them in Millvale rather than north side to start.


stefb

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Nov 13 2013 at 10:56am #

Last year there was a live stream online. My husband and parents watched at home.


sew

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Nov 13 2013 at 11:03am #

Cycling Fusion provided the live stream last year, I do believe.


sew

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Nov 13 2013 at 11:05am #

And checking out the cycle fusion website, they have a twitter feed on the side and it does appear that they are planning to stream it again this year.


Ahlir

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Nov 13 2013 at 12:35pm #

Sounds great. Looks like the right thing to do is plan to reach a hill maybe 1-2 hills ahead of the current on, and wait.


gg

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Nov 28 2013 at 12:34pm #

Swalfoort wrote:P.S. If you are planning to cycle between hills, you might want to do an easy three ….Logan (Millvale) , Mt. Washington and something in the the Welsh/Berry/Eleanor grouping on the Southside. I find that the DD riders get from the top of Burgess to Mt. Washington as quickly as I can in my car….so catch them in Millvale rather than north side to start.

I hope to ride between hills. What about Aspinwall, Millvale and Mt. Washington? Approximately what time do they get to Mt. Wash area? I only have until about noon before I have to start riding work. Probably only see a couple of hills at most I guess, but a couple is better than nothing. Fun watching great hill climbers.


stefb

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Nov 28 2013 at 4:34pm #

Rialto is in this year and berryhill is out. I wasn’t keeping track of time last year, but Rialto and canton take longer than others.


Swalfoort

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Nov 29 2013 at 11:26am #

Danny Chew’s website has both riding and driving directions for the route. It’s old, but mostly still works. The exception is that Rialto in back in, Berryhill is out. Most people know how to find the bottom of Rialto. I don’t know how to get to the top of Rialto, so I can’t help there. I’ll see if I can cut and paste Danny’s directions here:

DIRTY DOZEN

Daniel Chew’s Annual Tour of Pittsburgh

DIRECTIONS

The “Riding” directions are for the course as ridden by the cyclists.

The “Driving” directions are shortcuts taken by the race officials to make sure they beat the riders to the top of each hill.

Probably easiest to read on Danny’s site: http://www.dannychew.com/dd.html

Search for link about halfway down the page.


stefb

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Nov 30 2013 at 7:42am #

Good luck to all riders! Kick ass!


Swalfoort

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Nov 30 2013 at 8:31am #

Anybody have the livestream link?


Marko82

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Nov 30 2013 at 9:09am #

^

http://www.cyclingfusion.com/

It’s at the bottom of the page.


edmonds59

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Nov 30 2013 at 9:24am #

There is still a crapload of hard ice in many places. Please exhort everyone to be super careful.


Marko82

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Nov 30 2013 at 9:49am #

The live video is up and running!


fultonco

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Nov 30 2013 at 10:14am #

Approximately when might the group reach Beechview ?


Marko82

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Nov 30 2013 at 10:45am #

Beechview should be about 12:30 or so I think.


Marko82

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Nov 30 2013 at 10:47am #

Also, there is a live Garman link showing current location here:

http://livetrack.garmin.com/session/b160d0d5-d057-4bfc-9327-a3c7b8117241/token/8D3E844F757A837078305E532B354C6D


fultonco

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Nov 30 2013 at 11:19am #

Thanks Marko82


Swalfoort

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Nov 30 2013 at 11:36am #

Cycle fusion feeds not working ondroid. Riderz on logam 11.30


Swalfoort

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Nov 30 2013 at 12:09pm #

Dd.er with mrchanical problem at top of logan….well behind pack. Can anyone msg.race support vehicle?


Swalfoort

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Nov 30 2013 at 12:35pm #

Got him..all good


Marko82

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Nov 30 2013 at 1:26pm #

@ Mt. Washington 1:28


Marko82

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Nov 30 2013 at 2:11pm #

According to Chew, only two women have made Canton after 15 minutes of trying. Very tough today with some mud between the cobbles.


stefb

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Nov 30 2013 at 6:28pm #

Two women broke their rear derailleurs I heard, and I think they were Di2s. I saw one last woman get up the hill (Danielle) when the group was moving on. As the lead group was heading toward the last hill after crossing the glenwood bridge, I actually felt wind as they passed me. Amazing. It was much more fun watching this year. Great job to everyone who rode. I read that steevo won again.


Drewbacca

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Nov 30 2013 at 7:21pm #

stefb wrote:Two women broke their rear derailleurs I heard, and I think they were Di2s.

That sucks. I definitely wouldn’t ride my best bike/equipment in the D12. I imagine that with the likely hood of falling, a good crit bike would be the way to go. If I’m around next year, I’m definitely going to train and ride this.


Marko82

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Nov 30 2013 at 7:24pm #

stefb wrote:As the lead group was heading toward the last hill after crossing the glenwood bridge, I actually felt wind as they passed me.

According to the banter on the live feed, the pace line was doing 34+ MPH across the bridge. This after climbing eleven of the hills!


stefb

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Nov 30 2013 at 7:36pm #

Yep. They were going faster than cars. So impressive


fultonco

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Nov 30 2013 at 9:12pm #

Canton Street was a spectacle to behold. There were a number of riders giving it more than one try. Not sure how many made it. A huge group reconvened at the intersection of Coast and Banksville and took over Banksville as they headed toward Boustead. I was helping to marshal in that area and would say that nearly everyone in cars was very nice and patient. There was one fellow who got out of his vehicle and started demanding that I let everyone go through, even though the area was reduced to one car width, plus jammed with cyclists and spectators. He then resorted to telling the other drivers to just drive through the crowd. Fortunately, he was not the lead vehicle and the others paid him no mind. He called the police. A female officer by the name of Costa came a short while later. She was very pleasant and reasonable. She drove up as far as she could and watched the event for awhile. Not sure what her report will say. The fellows from Big Bang Bikes were also marshaling at the intersection of Banksville and Coast. One of them suggested that a wooden horse used for block party events be used to close the road next year. Might not be a bad idea. In all, it was a great event and I am sure that the few problems experienced can be overcome in the future.


stefb

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Nov 30 2013 at 9:59pm #

People are crazy. There is more than one way people can get to where they are going from the comfort of their warm cars.


salty

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Nov 30 2013 at 10:13pm #

I was hanging out in Pittsburgh Guitars when I saw an assload of bikes go flying by on Carson. I walked out with the owner John to watch, that was very cool… Then I told the tale of the dirty dozen to everyone in the shop – sometimes I forget that as big as it’s become, most people probably still haven’t heard of it. Thanks to all the volunteers for making it happen, I feel a bit guilty for not joining you.


gg

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Nov 30 2013 at 10:22pm #

I am amazed by how good these cyclists in the top several area at climbing these crazy hills. Such a cool race. Congrats to all who finished and whoever the winner is. Thanks for all the information on this thread.


steevo

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Dec 1 2013 at 12:59am #

The marshals were unreal. Thank you guys a ton for doing a long
day’s work. It seriously makes the event what it has grown into.

As far as the guys at the front, they have it easy. Sycamore in 3
minutes? Imagine being at the back and doing it in like 9 minutes!
then multiply that by 12! Huge difference in effort!


ericf

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Dec 1 2013 at 5:47am #

Congratulations to everyone who participated. You are badass!


stefb

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Dec 1 2013 at 8:28am #

Lolz I don’t know if I can drive a car up sycamore in 3 minutes.


fultonco

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Dec 1 2013 at 8:32am #

Definitely in the 6-9 minutes category, with a water stop :-)


TeamDecaf

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Dec 1 2013 at 9:21am #

Rialto and Sycamore 2 minute video.

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