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Lance Armstrong/Oprah Interview to Air 1/17/2013, 9 p.m.

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orionz06

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Jan 19 2013 at 4:20am #

No one forgave Ben for the alleged rape, many still think he did it.


mr marvelous

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Jan 19 2013 at 9:41am #

All of Ben’s endorsements came back to him.


stefb

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Jan 19 2013 at 1:37pm #

I don’t forgive scumbags


erok

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Jan 29 2013 at 10:23am #

well, this was funny


erok

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Jan 29 2013 at 3:40pm #


Mick

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Jan 29 2013 at 6:42pm #

Bravo!


byogman

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Jan 30 2013 at 9:49am #

Especially enjoyed how they folded in the right reactions and not just the words. Oprah squinty eye at :20 and 1:03 and look of disgust/pity around the :30 mark, her chiming in with “creep” at :57 and the chained Armstrong hesitation moments just before “I don’t belong here” at the end of the video… all pure comedic gold.


gg

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Jan 30 2013 at 4:00pm #

I watched the whole thing on Oprah and also watched Travis Tygart, the CEO of the USADA who is obviously going after Armstrong as a personal vendetta. Why would I say that? Tygart lied on 60 Minutes like a champ. He indicated that Armstrong was alone in doping. Are you kidding me? Who came in second? Jan? What about Alberto? Floyd? The list is HUGE and you are going to say, Lance was the the only one? BS! I don’t care how much people HATE Lance Armstrong. You have to at least be logical and look beyond your own hatred. It is very obvious after watching that 60 Minute interview with that a-hole Tygart was all about taking Lance down and it was very personal.

Here is my take on that whole situation. Everyone handled this correctly except Tygart. What you say? When you have a field that has found a way to cheat and it is very deep like that, you can’t just say the races didn’t happen. What about the fans that wasted time watching those races? You are gonig way back and rewrite that history? What about the countless people that have cancer that were heading into Chemo that watch Lance, read his book and used all that for inspiration? The best way to handle this whole thing was to say, we let that slide over those years and the field was polluted. Once they starting checking riders year around, the field was forced to change. You don’t go backwards, you go forward. That is what they did in the NFL. They never rewrote the history books because teams were pumping TONS of crap in their veins. They cracked down and looked forward. Imagine if the NFL told a team, hey, we are taking your Super Bowl away because we found too many of your linemen were on Steroids. Do you think that would go over well? Heck, the Patriots were caught cheating flat out and they go to keep their Super Bowl wins. The NFL knew better than to go backwards. There are way too much collateral damage. In the case of Armstrong, it was the countless cancer folks using him for motivation. To be quite honest, that is greater than any TdF win. That is hope for people in a very dark place. The story is gone now. The races never happened. The TdF is a joke. Was it worth it to go way back in time and change everything? Nope, but this a-hole Tygart pounded his chest and wanted to change everything. He did that, but no way was it worth killing all that hope for cancer folks, killing all my fine memories of watching Jan try and take Lance down. I wanted Jan to win, but they were fun to watch. There is no memory now. Those races are erased. Worth it? NO!

I can understand people hating Lance. I never related to him much, but I did like his story and beating cancer as well as racing in the TdF after all that. It was an inspirational story that could have helped ANY of us, because we have about a 50/50 chance to get cancer. I would have read his book if I was diagnosed for some inspiration. Not now though. All bad memories.


Marko82

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Feb 10 2013 at 12:09pm #

I guess le’douche just can’t help himself

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324445904578284144255080394.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


gg

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Feb 10 2013 at 1:21pm #

Never heard of Strava. Kind of a cool idea, but it seems pretty dangerous.


Mikhail

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Feb 10 2013 at 5:56pm #

More than five admited to dope:

Rasmussen: dope van 1998 t/m 2010 : http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wielersport/21260066/__Rasmussen__dope_van__98_t_m__10__.html

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rabobank-decries-doping-at-team-it-sponsored-for-17-years :


The bank announced in October that it was ending its sponsorship at the end of the year. Levi Leipheimer described doping on the team in his affidavit as part of the USADA’s ‘Reasoned Decision”, and the team was and still is involved in a lawsuit with Michael Rasmussen.

Since then, Thomas Dekker, Marc Lotz, Danny Nelissen and numerous anonymous riders have reported doping in their times at the Dutch team. Dekker, who called it “a way of life” at Rabobank, recently said that he will disclose all doping details to the Dutch Anti-Doping Agency.


gg

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Feb 11 2013 at 1:38am #

It is just like any sport. People found a way to cheat and money motivated them. Lance was far from “alone”. That a-hole that went after him is as bad as Lance. He lied like crazy. People in the world seem to love to form a lynch mob these days. I never really liked Lance as a person, but I liked the fact that he beat cancer and could move on. That was important to me because you never know if you are going to get the big C. The story was really important and to hang someone had too much collateral damage. It was handled very poorly and headed up by a lier.

Anyway, I know people hate Lance and that if fine, but for some that cancer thing is pretty huge. They should have looked forward and fixed the future, not crush the past. That was stupid just to fry someone. There are millions dealing with cancer and that hope WAS important, but I digress.


StuInMcCandless

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Feb 11 2013 at 7:19am #

I didn’t even look at this thread until the board came back to life, a couple of weeks after the show aired. My 3 cents:
* There sure seemed to be a lot of hype about this announcement. It’s hard not to think this wasn’t a push to get the ratings up, which to me means big advertising bucks.
* From that, I make the bold leap that there might be some collusion between Oprah and Lance to fund some of either his or his charity’s operations, at least for a while.
* Not in this thread, it was an earlier one, someone recently posted a chart showing the top 10 winners in a bunch of bike races going back 10 or 15 years, and how many of them have tested positive. To me, that’s the damning piece of evidence as to how widespread doping is in the competitive cycling world.
* But I do think the fact that he beat cancer is still worth giving the guy some respect.

I don’t give a rat’s ass about bicycle racing on this level. The Tour de France is as relevant to getting John and Jane Q Public out of their cars and onto bicycles as the Canadian Curling Association’s national championship.


erok

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Oct 25 2013 at 12:39pm #

The Armstrong Lie is playing at Filmmakers during the 3 rivers film fest.

http://3rff.com/films/armstrong-lie

For years, after seizing international fame as the cancer survivor who won seven Tour de France titles, Lance Armstrong fiercely denied accusations that he used performance-enhancing drugs. For this film, award-winning director Alex Gibney (Taxi to the Dark Side; Enron:The Smartest Guys in the Room) had extraordinary access. He masterfully explores the fall of this disgraced champion, attaining rare interviews with former teammates, alleged doping mastermind Dr. Michele Ferrari, and Armstrong himself.

Print courtsey of Sony Pictures Classics.


paulheckbert

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Oct 25 2013 at 9:01pm #

radio story: new book ‘Wheelmen’ Exposes Doping Culture And The Armstrong ‘Conspiracy’

http://www.npr.org/2013/10/21/239081497/wheelmen-exposes-doping-culture-and-the-armstrong-conspiracy

“Albergotti and O’Connell have written a new book called Wheelmen which chronicles Armstrong’s emergence as a rich and powerful athlete, and explores the remarkable breadth of the doping culture embraced by his pro cycling team. There were many co-conspirators, group blood transfusions on the team bus, and extensive efforts to silence and intimidate those who might expose the abuse.”


gg

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Oct 27 2013 at 8:47am #

I get a kick out of everyone’s focus on Armstrong. I guess he makes a fun fall guy and the media loves extremes. Lets face it, pro cycling at that time was like the NFL was like in the 70′s. The NFL handled it much better than the way pro cycling handled it. The NFL moved forward and didn’t look back and take away Super Bowls from teams/cities. The media sure love taking top dogs down and people also live for it. I don’t really like Lance much and really cheer for Jan because I related to a pizza/beer drinking cyclist, but Jan was no doubt doing the same thing and so were countless others. I am sure the countless others are happy the focus is on one guy. The American! Yahoo!


steevo

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Oct 27 2013 at 9:08am #

If you think that they are focusing on only the American because he
is American, then why is Chris Horner still racing without question?

Also if you read more than just the American news, you will see that
Ferrari, Bruyneel and other people who are not American are in for it.


Drewbacca

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Oct 27 2013 at 9:32am #

Yeah… as far as American news, it’s also fair to say that they focused on one guy when Lance was winning races and not in the spotlight for doping too. L.A. is a household name and has been since long before he got busted; the other racers, not so much.


Mick

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Oct 28 2013 at 1:40pm #

For me the kicker was it coming out how much of a bully-boy Armstrong was.

I’m sure there were other dopers and other bullies, of course, but none as visible at it as Lance.


Marko82

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Dec 13 2013 at 5:28pm #

It seems that LA was a dick in Pittsburgh too…

“An Italian rider, Roberto Gaggioli, claims that Armstrong gave him $100K in a cake box to throw a 1993 race in Pittsburgh.

“It was a young American colleague,” Roberto Gaggioli said, according to the paper. ”He offered me a panettone [a traditional Italian Christmas cake] as a present and wished me a merry Christmas. In the box there were $100,000 in small bills. That colleague was Lance Armstrong”

http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/24374392/lance-armstrong-feels-he-was-singled-out-by-usada


gg

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Dec 14 2013 at 12:56am #

Marko82 wrote:claims

Shame people assume there is guilt when anyone “claims” anything. We sure haven’t grown at all from the old lynch mob days, that is for sure. It is what it is I guess, but I wouldn’t believe anything that silly, unless there is way more proof than “claims”. Whatever.


StuInMcCandless

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Dec 14 2013 at 1:07pm #

I’m willing to let 20-year-sleeping dogs lie.

I never had much use for Lance or that type of racing, drugs or not. I am curious how he plans to reinvent himself, though.

Is there anything useful to say here that hasn’t already been said? Lacking that, can we be done with this, please?


cburch

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Dec 15 2013 at 10:38pm #

stu you know the answer to both questions is “no”. american cycling fans worshiped him to the point of idolatry no matter what evidence was shown that, drugs or not, he was kind of a dick. now that its undeniable that he was not only a jerk, but a cheater they are going to reject him with equal fervor.

its going to be awfully hard to reinvent himself as the most likely avenues he would have chosen, politics and triathlon, are both pretty much closed to him now. he’s banned from professional triathlon and with all the skeletons so publicly displayed, anything beyond a local election is probably pointless.


Pierce

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Dec 16 2013 at 4:32pm #

He’s a bully and drug user, if he renounces bicycles he could become the mayor of Toronto

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