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List of Roads that could easily accommodate a bike lane

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buffalo buffalo

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Jul 30 2013 at 2:45pm #

Nice. Knew about the one in PH, but not the Oakland one.

I’m curious, though: I can see they moved the centreline over–did they also get rid of the rarely-observed turning lanes on Bouquet?

(Also, has anyone ever figured out why the stop sign and crosswalk on R.Clemente are so absurdly far back?)


buffalo buffalo

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Jul 31 2013 at 2:33pm #

buffalo buffalo wrote:I’m curious, though: I can see they moved the centreline over–did they also get rid of the rarely-observed turning lanes on Bouquet?

Answering my own question after passing through on the way back from lunch: yes, yes they did. One lane each way plus bike lane, Sennott to Joncaire.


erok

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Jul 31 2013 at 3:39pm #

thanks for the photo, Hidden Variable.

http://bikepgh.org/2013/07/31/central-oakland-polish-hill-get-first-bike-lanes-park-place-squirrel-hill-connections-made/


Ross

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Aug 1 2013 at 8:01am #

Not a road in the city, but Freeport Road between Blawnox and Harmar is an example of a local road that should have bike lanes right now…or next week…or however long it takes to drive over there and make them.

Every time I commute on that 4-lane superhighway portion of Freeport road, I wonder why it’s there. What motivated the giant highway from the tiny, Hulton Bridge to the tiny burg of Blawnox? It’s a dangerous road to ride on — only because everyone is going 70 mph.

These types of roads are all over the place. Out of place monster highway sections that are just not needed. I think these kinds of roads are low-hanging fruit for bike lane installation.

edit — I am talking about “real” bike lanes here. The kind where there’s a barrier between you and the big steel things moving at high speed. These roads scream for barrier-ed bike lanes, IMHO.


Benzo

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Aug 1 2013 at 8:28am #

Just saw that sharrows popped up on sennot st, which connects to the new bike lanes on Bouquet.


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 1 2013 at 3:52pm #

This one is going to require more than paint, but the road is in bad enough shape that when they do anything, they should consider bike lanes: East Street, at least between the Venture Street ramp and the bridge over I-279 by Allegheny General Hospital.

The pavement is crap. It’s concrete, and so pitted and cracked it’s almost dangerous to ride. It’s two lanes one way, one the other. Up at Venture, from there to that bridge over I-279, there is a very wide raised center median. What it has the effect of doing is narrowing the inbound lane to just wide enough to fit a truck, and precious little else. For bikes, it means take the sidewalk along there.

The road itself, pavement aside, is a good way to get north without dealing with an enormous hill. It’s a nice easy grade all the way out. But traffic speeds are high, mainly because it’s two lanes across going outbound, and never enforced, just like West Carson. Unenforceable, really, for the same reasons as West Carson.


Steven

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Aug 5 2013 at 8:38pm #

erok wrote:can’t really see where it says bikes are allowed. is it marked anywhere?

Following up on this a month later — yup, it’s marked. This is Allegheny Avenue at Sixth Street in Glassport, looking south toward the old train station.

I’m not sure it’s quite up to MUTCD, but it’s an official sign.


buffalo buffalo

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Aug 5 2013 at 10:15pm #

This was incredibly confusing when I went down for the Montour Trail Triphammer Road segment opening. Followed the Clairton connector from McKeesport, and the signs take you right to this ‘do not enter’ sign. I definitely didn’t see the ‘Except Bicycles’ line–hell, I had to look twice to see it in the photo–though I kept going anyway.
(of course, there happened to be a full-size van on the road at the time, but the road is wide enough that we just ignored each other.)

Hopefully soon there can at least be a full-size ‘except bikes’ sign, if not also an additional Clairton connector sign to make it completely transparent that that’s where bikes are supposed to go…


ericf

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Aug 6 2013 at 6:28am #

@Ross
That would be awesome! Do you think it would create any problems downstream? Blawnox is congested.


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 6 2013 at 11:33am #

Talk about fine print! I didn’t see the text until I read @buffalobuffalo’s comment and went back to look for it.


Marko82

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Aug 7 2013 at 7:55pm #

-add Kirkpatrick street in the Hill to the list. Plenty wide to put lanes in both directions except for the first hundred feet down by 5th ave.


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 8 2013 at 4:59am #

In another thread, someone mentioned Washington Boulevard. I don’t know what to say here. It’s one of those roads that’s just so beyond the pale. So many deaths and wrecks here, traffic speeds just so out of line with regard to either the speed limit or common sense. Remember the guy who got killed standing in his own business’s front yard, a couple summers back?

Yeah, I’m for it. You want to see the world rant and scream about putting Washington Blvd on a road diet? Go for it. I’m serious.


ericf

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Aug 8 2013 at 5:38am #

Is this just fantasy? Will any of this happen in our lifetime? Ever?


Ahlir

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Aug 8 2013 at 4:22pm #

Washington Blvd is a lost cause.
But it might make sense to have a bike street next to it (and lane Negley Run). And biker-activated crossing lights at the Allegheny Blvd end.


Ross

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Aug 8 2013 at 7:34pm #

ericf wrote:@Ross
That would be awesome! Do you think it would create any problems downstream? Blawnox is congested.

I really don’t think Blawnox would change a bit…when the congested 2-lane turns into the 4-lane superhighway, the traffic vanishes more because it’s not going block-to-block with red lights.

That road just screams for a bike lane.


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 10 2013 at 12:12pm #

Chartiers Ave between the Corliss Tunnel and the bridge in Sheraden is plenty wide.


Brent

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Aug 29 2013 at 1:32pm #

10th Street Bridge is currently being rehabilitated and is limited to two lanes. In spite of this, it seems to handle the traffic just fine. Really this bridge isn’t that busy and the only place where two lanes are needed is at the stoplights on either end so cars can queue up to turn or go straight.

This bridge could easily be striped for one car lane + one bike lane each direction, with the bike lanes ending at either end as the stoplights are approaching to accommodate turn lanes. At this point you’re going downhill anyway so bikes are going the same speed that cars are theoretically supposed to go (25 mph).

Would also be nice if they made improved connections to the trails on either end too, especially the Elizah Furnace Trail. Riding on the south side streets to get to the trail isn’t so bad but 2nd Avenue is dangerous. “Flyover ramps” would be great but I’d be happy with something cheaper but still functional.

I believe this is a county project. It would be nice if bike lanes were added as part of the scope.


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 29 2013 at 6:10pm #

Almost off-topic, but @brent’s post reminded me of an idea I had a while back: A ramp from the Birmingham Bridge to the Jail Trail. There is one spot where it would not be difficult at all to create an access point from the upstream side.


Brent

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Aug 29 2013 at 8:53pm #

Stu,

I don’t know if you’ve discussed it on this board or not, but I envision a separated bike/ped path along one side of the Birmingham Bridge (I am thinking the downstream side), buffered by a strip of vegetation/trees from traffic, and with easy connections (perhaps flyover ramps) to the trails on both sides of the rivers in addition to the existing connections to Fifth Ave., Forbes, and Carson Street. This would make it so it would actually be pleasant to cross the bridge.

Cars accessing the bridge from the ramp leading from Forbes would have to make a sharp left turn just as the ramp reaches the bridge so that they are approximately at a ninety degree angle from the bridge traffic, and there would be a stop sign at this point. Just putting a stop sign with the existing configuration isn’t enough because people wouldn’t stop.

This bridge is so vastly overdesigned that all this would be possible.


Andrew

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Sep 1 2013 at 12:09am #

It’s not in the city…and has been mentioned in other threads…

Waterfront Drive!

Bike lanes would make things easier and the road is certainly wide enough.

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