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Oblivious PGH Motorists on video

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quizbot

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May 11 2012 at 5:48am #

Well said. Where’s the ‘like’ button?


melange396

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May 11 2012 at 6:44am #

>”So would you please be willing to pass me with extra space in the future so I can have some peace of mind?” I think that statement is far more powerful

indeed it is. but how often do we even get a chance to attempt a calm discourse? when i encounter dickish behavior, they almost always speed off and yelling would be the only opportunity i have to communicate. if you do get to catch up to them and their window is down, people sometimes act insulted or at least get defensive when you point out their wrongdoings/shortcomings/flaws so its hard to get them to even hear the message. then theres the way the car and the monotony of automotive traffic insulates and abstracts their thinking so that they may not understand the gravity of the message or take heed of its ramifications. the yelling of profanity in public like that and the shame that results may be the only way to reach the flagrant offenders… well, profanity or tickets from police.

> the percentage of true psychopath’s are one to two percent. (Which seems high?)

im going to try to count the number of cars i see on my commute (which is relatively short and on relatively less busy roads during times when relatively fewer people are commuting), but id guess that quizbot easily sees 200 on his (5ish mile?) trip down penn ave. that would mean there should be about 3 psychopaths that he comes near every day, but how often do they make the highlight reel? id expect more incidents to occur to us all; maybe its fear of retribution or simply indifference that tips the scales in our favor and prevents them from doing truly nasty things.

what i would REALLY like to know is how frequently quizbot says “dont turn in front of me you asshole!” and they DONT actually cut him off


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe

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May 11 2012 at 10:16am #

+1 for what Pierce said about finding the humanity.

Really, really well said.

And +1 also for quizbot.


rsprake

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May 11 2012 at 12:27pm #

While the driver is most likely not a sociopath I have no problem believing that he knew exactly what he was doing. This is how aggressive drivers act. Quizbot being there couldn’t have been a surprise unless the driver wasn’t paying attention. It’s a text book right hook as far as I am concerned.

what i would REALLY like to know is how frequently quizbot says “dont turn in front of me you asshole!” and they DONT actually cut him off

Think of it like his horn.


Marko82

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May 11 2012 at 1:17pm #

Well said Pierce.

I really wish your thinking was spot on, but what about the a-holes who yell at me while going in the opposite direction? I’m on the other side of the road & can’t possibly be delaying or imposing on them in any way, yet you get the ‘faggot’, ‘get on the sidewalk’, etc. shit yelled at you. I think that one or two percent may be low when you plop the person down behind a steering wheel. And for the record, my reactions are closer to quizbot’s, but I’m trying…


quizbot

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May 11 2012 at 1:48pm #

Only the really special individuals receive special choices of words from me, particularly when their actions are with blatant disregard for the safety of others around them. It just so happens that those sorts of interactions are the things that end up being posted here, but they’re in no way indicative of my general strategy when it comes to handling motorists.

2 weeks or so ago, I was in the bus / bike lane on Liberty outbound approaching the Bloomfield bridge when a lady who was backed up in the center lane tried to make a jump into the bike lane… I just gave a loud and sharp “HEY!” to get her attention, which worked probably because her windows were down and she was actually able to hear me.

Usually, that’s all my horn blasts. HEY!!!

Maybe I need to get one of these.


Anonymous

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May 11 2012 at 1:59pm #

Well, that horn sure makes me rethink the idea of adding a car horn to my bike.

/me searches ebay for train horns and scuba tanks


edmonds59

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May 11 2012 at 3:29pm #

If you had an air horn powered by a propane tank, with a properly placed grill igniter, that could be kind of a special “drivers ed” device.


ejwme

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May 11 2012 at 7:47pm #

edmonds, I keep picturing one of those bicycles with the bins on front and the colorful umbrella that sells hotdogs and icecream and cotton candy by the beach. I know that’s not what you mean, but it’s more delicious. OOO you could put a blender on the back and sell smoothies too.

that would be so awesome. wow. tangent. sorry.


quizbot

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May 15 2012 at 10:27pm #

Here we go again. Maroon Ford Taurus, Tennessee plate D35-07Y drives out of alley directly into my path. Coral & Amelia. Friendly motorist sees it happen, intervenes on my behalf. Jagoff motorist tells me I should’ve stopped at a non-existent stop sign, then threatens to get out of his car.


Pierce

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May 15 2012 at 11:34pm #

Props for expressing your concern and focusing on that even after the threat of violence


melange396

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May 16 2012 at 4:39am #

id like to buy the guy in the kia a pedal pale ale. its a plus every time you have a motorist stand up for a biker put at risk.

mr smiley face is probably a cyclist as well as a cager and thus biased but still…

best video yet


dmtroyer

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May 16 2012 at 5:01am #

ugh, wish I had a camera this evening. buzzed three times going to and from brillobox on penn. twice when I was taking the lane, and I’m pretty sure the first guy brushed my knuckle hairs (albatross bars) I couldn’t believe we didn’t make contact.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe

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May 16 2012 at 10:59am #

Well-played, quizbot.

Interestingly, I’ve had “that guy” pull “that move” while driving as well.

Glad also to see the guy in the Kia speak up.


WillB

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May 16 2012 at 1:30pm #

@quizbot – great response at the end “all I want is for you to try to be more careful.” I feel like that pretty much sums it up. (I also liked the “that’s not cool!”).

Separately, though, I’m interested in the way that video distorts (or fails to adequately convey) incidents like this. Just watching it on the computer it doesn’t really look like a dangerous situation; it just looks like a driver being kind of jerk and pulling out in front of you, causing you to have to slow down a little. I take it from your reaction, and that of the nice driver, that this is not what actually happened, and that you had to brake dramatically to avoid a collision. Maybe it’s the wide angle of the lens, but that urgency really doesn’t come across in the video.


Eric

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May 16 2012 at 4:02pm #

Most helmet cams have a pretty wide angle lens, which could almost use a “objects in video are closer than they appear” disclaimer.

I’ve tried shooting MTB video with a 170º field of view. To keep the rider in front of me in big enough in the frame I had to ride uncomfortably close to his wheel.


quizbot

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May 16 2012 at 7:49pm #

Quick video to show how the distance of objects is distorted by the lens (125º field of view). I got out a tape measure & show what 20 in, 3 ft, 4 ft, and 5 ft look like as measured from handlebar end to car body from the side, and what 5 ft and 8 ft look like seeing an oncoming vehicle. Front view measured from bike front wheel to bumper.


rsprake

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May 16 2012 at 8:24pm #

Why didn’t you measure the distance from you to the fully grown man on the bike?


quizbot

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May 16 2012 at 8:46pm #

lol


Anonymous

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May 22 2012 at 4:01pm #

if anyone cares, woot.com is selling the Swann Frestyle 1080p camera (helment or hangledab mountable) for $140. The deal will probably be gone in the next hour.


StuInMcCandless

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May 22 2012 at 4:36pm #

Already too late. Sold out. Just tried.


Steven

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May 22 2012 at 5:25pm #

Woot.com was selling the same camera a few weeks, so perhaps it’ll be back again. (I got one last time, though I’m not sure mine came with a hangledab mounting option. Works fine on my helmet though.)


Anonymous

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May 22 2012 at 5:34pm #

@Steven, Every good bike cam should have a hangledab mounting option.


edmonds59

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May 22 2012 at 6:12pm #

omg why did you send me to BSNY, I was about to get some work done.


pearmask

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May 22 2012 at 7:00pm #

for those who aren’t familiar, normally woot has a deal a day, but right now they are in “woot-off” mode, which normally lasts for two or three days and consists of deals where they put something up until they run out or sell a certain allotted number, and then it switches to a new item. sometimes things sell out in an hour, sometimes in a minute. sometimes they only sell one of an item. in reality, though, they usually have more of them somewhere when they “sell out,” and a lot of times during woot-offs something will re-appear, so that camera or a similar one could come back in the next couple of days. (if you want to keep close tabs on what they’re selling during a woot-off to see if another one shows up, you can even leave a tracker website like mywoot.net open in a tab while you’re doing other things.)


Pierce

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May 24 2012 at 11:11pm #

Quizbot, you might be rubbing off on me

I gave some guy the finger today for passing me closer and faster than I’d like in a construction zone where I was purposefully taking the lane

First time I’ve done it in a while. Luckily I don’t think he noticed.

But then the day before I also cursed when some lady decided to do a three-point-turn on Boundary St around that area with the school entrance

/sigh Maybe it is the heat


quizbot

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May 25 2012 at 3:07am #

Maybe something along these lines?


rzod

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May 25 2012 at 2:56pm #

The Swann camera is back as today’s Woot.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe

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May 25 2012 at 3:59pm #

A guy I work with showed me this lens that attached to an iPhone (at this website: http://www.kogeto.com/say-hello-to-dot)

It makes 360 degree video. So if you made video while riding, and a crash or near-miss happened, you could pan from the forward view, to the side view to the rear-view – you could see the car coming, or whatever. All the videos of crashes we’ve seen are frustrating in that we only see the forward view, then the blur, then the camera tumbling, etc.

I think there are smaple videos – including one taken while riding a segway that demonstrates the applicability to recording on a bike.


melange396

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May 29 2012 at 9:38pm #

@ALMKLM: thats pretty awesome. unfortunately, their high-quality setup called lucy is big, heavy, and expensive… and it still doesnt seem to capture license plates well. hopefully the technology will improve quickly and we can all wear beanies on helmets to capture the idiocy on the streets.


salty

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May 29 2012 at 11:29pm #

Well, this isn’t video but since I had to stop and walk my bike thanks to these douchebags, a still frame has the same effect. In the 60 seconds I was there I saw 3 other cyclists who had to do the same.

I think the only gap big enough to get through was between the white car and the SUV beside it, although I was tempted to try a “go/no-go” test with my pedals just to make sure I didn’t accuse anyone unjustly.


pearmask

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May 29 2012 at 11:36pm #

^Did a girl on a black hybrid bike ride/walk by shaking her head as you were taking that photo, by any chance? I certainly saw someone taking a photo of this nonsense and immediately wondered if it would end up here, haha


salty

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May 29 2012 at 11:46pm #

Yeah – was that you? I muttered something like “that’s a lovely parking job”…


pearmask

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May 29 2012 at 11:52pm #

Yup. I wasn’t 100% sure what you said, so I think my response was just awkward laughter, but I knew what you meant anyway, haha. It was indeed a really lovely parking job. I kinda wish I had left notes to compliment the drivers of those cars on just how lovely it was.


helen s

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May 30 2012 at 9:26pm #

I carry a pen and paper in by rack bag for writing notes and license plate numbers. Left a note last week on a car parked blocking a curb cut near frick park.


cburch

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May 31 2012 at 1:57am #

I used the pedal test on a car that was routinely blocking the stairs to sassafras from 29th last year. The car failed the test twice, but it’s owner stopped blocking the stairs.


melange396

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May 31 2012 at 2:55am #

lulz, pedal test! i get so anal retentive about tiny chips on my own bike frame, id have to be pretty pissed to administer the exam to another person.


Mick

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May 31 2012 at 2:48pm #

I kinda wish I had left notes to compliment the drivers of those cars on just how lovely it was.

When I leave notes about parking I usually put something at the end about how “good parking is KEY to being a good neighbor” with a little drawing of a key next to it.

I would definitely leave a note like that before actually performing a pedal test.

Once people understand that it’s part of being a good neighbor, they generally get their act together.

“Won’t you be my neighbor?”


quizbot

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Jun 5 2012 at 1:08am #

Was the bus driver being a dick in this situation? Inbound between 40th and 39th on Liberty this morning. I’m in the bike lane, bus passes me, only to stop to pick up passengers 5 seconds later. My feeling is that he should have waited those 5 seconds and let me clear. He made the situation a bit uncomfortable for me and boarding passengers. Anyway, I was nice about it all & didn’t fling verbal or actual poo at anyone.


pearmask

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Jun 5 2012 at 1:35am #

^Still trying to decide how I feel about that. I don’t think it’s blatant dickishness. It’s sort of an awkward/tricky situation; I don’t know if bus drivers are prepared for it or if they necessarily understand the situation it puts you in. But if I were queen of bus drivers, they would do what you are suggesting.

On a separate note, today’s sequel to salty’s Reizenstein Park photo above:

This time I left a note. (A gentle, friendly one. It even had a smileyface!)

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