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dwillen

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Dec 8 2009 at 10:28pm #

Close.. Minneapolitans.


salty

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Dec 9 2009 at 2:21am #

i’m interested in hearing more about this alleged “salt bike”…


dmtroyer

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Dec 10 2009 at 1:14pm #

Erok: aren’t you going to write a post about the weather for today’s commute? :-)


netviln

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Dec 10 2009 at 2:13pm #

To be fair, it was 7 degrees in portland yesterday according to a friend.


spakbros

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Dec 10 2009 at 4:17pm #

They can count to 7 over there?


Eric

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Dec 10 2009 at 4:32pm #

The weather report said 30º and 12º for high and low, so maybe 7º with wind chill?

Whatever, they all need to HTFU anyway.


edmonds59

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Dec 10 2009 at 4:50pm #

Maybe that was in Celsius or Kelvin or Rankine or something.


spakbros

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Dec 10 2009 at 5:08pm #

maybe they were so stoned they couldn’t see the 1 in front of it


spakbros

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Dec 10 2009 at 5:11pm #

I actually loved Portland in my brief time there, it reminded me of da’ burgh in a lot of ways


Eric

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Dec 10 2009 at 6:43pm #

Spak, I second the sentiment. Portland is like Pittsburgh of the West, with less interesting topography, spoiled bikers, and subtle snobbery.

And too many frame builders.


Bikelove2010

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Dec 12 2009 at 12:00am #

I dig a salt bike. If I was mechanically inclined (or close enough to free ride to learn how to be) I’d put one together myself.


alnilam

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Dec 13 2009 at 6:33pm #

Throw on some studded tires, beef up the brakes, gear down the drivetrain, and work out power takeoff from the rear axle to the salt spreader.

Not even necessary. There exist hand-pushed fertilizer spreaders (boo chemical fertilizer) that have power transmission from the thing’s own wheels to the actual spreader. Modding one of those would be as simple as hooking it up to the back of your bike like a trailer.

However, the ratio between the wheels and the spreader is huge (i.e. turns really fast even at walking speeds). That might need to be altered for bike speeds, otherwise its wheels would probably just drag.


alankhg

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Dec 13 2009 at 8:09pm #

Looks like they make tow spreaders for garden tractors, e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Earthway-Commercial-100-Pound-Spreader-2170T/dp/B00004RB0F/ref=sr_1_48?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1260735023&sr=1-48

Just weld a hitch for one of those onto a trike and you’re ready to go. Probably need to make sure you have a really rust-resistant model, though.


StuInMcCandless

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Dec 13 2009 at 8:44pm #

To fix the gearing problem, just put bigger wheels on it.

I have one I’ve already set aside just for that purpose, but whoever (on this board) was going to pick it up, a winter or two ago, never did.


Bob_M

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Dec 14 2009 at 7:19pm #

Eric Bossanove

Wrong in so many ways! There is nothing subtle about our snobbery, and I look down my nose at people who think otherwise. Volcanos are not interesting topography? My poor sheltered piedmont friend, volcanos are the most interesting topography. We are spoiled however with a wealth of frame builders and GOOD beer. Come on over and taste the good life.


Eric

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Dec 14 2009 at 8:10pm #

Ah yes, Portalnd is atop an extinct volcano, also known (this isn’t a joke) as the “Boring Lava Fields”

Believe me Bobby, Pittsburgh wins on interesting topography with-in city limits.

I submit into evidence, exhibit A:


sloaps

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Dec 14 2009 at 8:17pm #

Exhibit B : Landslides and Related Features In the Pittsburgh East Quadrangle. It’s like highlighting with a broad paint brush.


alankhg

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Dec 14 2009 at 8:23pm #

Bob:

First! Learn to read. “Bossanova” is eric’s board-title, just as yours is “newbie.”

Second! Pittsburgh is hundreds of miles from the Piedmont.

Third! Your volcanoes aren’t very close to the city. Apparently the only volcanic feature in Portland is the “Boring lava field” which has a name that makes it clear that it is the very opposite of interesting topography. Pittsburgh has the STEEPEST STREET IN THE WORLD; OH YEAH!


alnilam

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Dec 14 2009 at 8:40pm #

Eric:

Let’s not be unfair – aerial images always make elevation look like nothing.

Instead, I invite you to compare nice google topo maps.

Portland

Pittsburgh


rainperimeter

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Dec 14 2009 at 9:06pm #

regarding topography; portland, inside the city limits has over 1000′ of elevation difference (so there are plenty of steep streets here as well, and landslides if that is what gets you going. this also helps create micro-climates, so yesterday morning my yard/house/street was covered in ice, but just a couple miles away at amy’s, totally above freezing) Mt. Tabor is an extinct volcano caldera that sits well inside the city limits. portland is home to one of the nations biggest urban parks and is (?) the largest urban forested park. we sit at the confluence of only 2 rivers, so 3 beats 2, but the columbia is longer than the ohio and monongahela combined. portland is about an hour from the ocean, mountains (higher than anything in PA) high desert, and a massive gorge.

i’ve always thought pittsburgh seems like a fascinating city. and it looks beautiful. and there are metal bands from pittsburgh that i used to love (CIC, willowtip stuff).

debating the natural topography is fucking stupid. debating what city is more bike friendly makes more sense. and portland for now is unbeatable in this debate. as far as pussy weather, sure. portland isn’t set up to deal with snow as it’s not a standard feature of winter. ice is what we deal with mostly. but the city doesn’t salt the roads (that shit isn’t good for the water and soil). so it gets icy and everything stops.

the only other thing i can think to mention is that portlanders are only as soft as the places that everyone moves from. meaning, no one is from here. i know 5 people from pittsburgh, no idea how many from mpls, illinois, california, mass., texas, DC, etc.

take it easy, keep biking.


Eric

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Dec 14 2009 at 9:20pm #

Probably most telling are the amount of long straight streets in Portland vs Pittsburgh. Straight streets = flat terrain.

Portland looks like a Midwestern city next to Pittsburgh.

One more thing to add to the list of topics that Pittsburgh wins on: sense of humor. Lighten up, I think your cute little handmade wools caps are a bit too tight. Quit drying your wool in the dryer, noobs.


sloaps

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Dec 14 2009 at 9:36pm #

debating the natural topography is fucking stupid. lol, guilty as charged.

I should’ve stayed far away from this one, as I pedal a trek portland.


rainperimeter

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Dec 14 2009 at 9:45pm #

i didn’t know this was a private party.

your city sucks your city sucks. come on, someone bite.

*bite*

fuck you, pittsburgh rules!

on the log-in page someone should set up a zip code verification system to keep this as incestuous as you need it to be.


joeframbach

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Dec 14 2009 at 9:54pm #

incestuous

I don’t think that word means what you think it means.


Eric

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Dec 14 2009 at 10:02pm #

This proves erok’s point from earlier in the thread:

“west coasters doesn’t always get east coaster’s biting sarcasm”


axoplasm

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Dec 14 2009 at 10:37pm #

“I really hoped this thread would start a portland<->pittsburgh bike forum flame war. come on guys…”

OK I’ll punch back but you’ll be disappointed.

The weather here is soft and 2/3 of the city is built flat and straight. Drivers are courteous by national standards, even to each other. There are no mosquitoes. I’m not kidding. THERE ARE NO F’ING MOSQUITOES IN PORTLAND OR. OK maybe a handful of asthmatic little skeeters who give a halfhearted stab on July 4, just for effect.

It does rain 6-9 mos/year and it is very gray, but hey you don’t have to shovel rain.

“portlanders are only as soft as the places that everyone moves from.”

There’s yr. short answer, my pugnacious friends. I moved here from Nebraska (“Alaska winters, Florida summers.”) 14 years ago. In 14 years I’ve never lived in a house or apt. with bug screens, double-paned windows, or air conditioning. I didn’t even own a jacket my first 2 winters here. About half my friends came here from somewhere else, and unless “somewhere else” is “California” the weather “back home” is worse than the weather here. So the complaints you see — that’s natives and Californians. The rest of us smirk and keep our mouths shut. However nice you imagine Portland might be, it’s better than that.

In fact, in posting this comment I have violated the first rule of PDXBIKECLUB which is “YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT PDXBIKECLUB.”


axoplasm

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Dec 14 2009 at 10:41pm #

p.s. we do get ice and they don’t salt the roads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCoxOReXlHI


caitlin

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Dec 14 2009 at 10:49pm #

i am surprised at how seriously this was taken! i guess the sarcasm rift is really the largest difference between us.

but i ask again: where is the BRICKER vs BRICKER match?


Bob_M

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Dec 14 2009 at 11:08pm #

Noob here

Ya gotta appreciate what a good sense of humor dem Burghers have. They will tell you up front how funny they are. I guess it must be true


I Like Your New Haircut

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Dec 14 2009 at 11:21pm #

Well Pittsburgh, at least my tap water hasn’t been over the legal limit for TTHMs in the last five years.

That’s right. I brought it.


sloaps

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Dec 15 2009 at 12:00am #

over the legal limit for TTHMs in the last five years

O-snap! He dun brung it.

I’m going to deflect a bit and say although it doesn’t freeze – evar – and there is a high risk for giardia, the TDS levels provide an unnatural buoyancy in the Monongahela that allows an impossibility of drowning. So we got that going for us…


Bob_M

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Dec 15 2009 at 12:35am #

I believe the Giardia part, from the posting on this board it seems everyone in the Burgh has got it.


Eric

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Dec 15 2009 at 2:00am #

Ah, much better. It warms the cockles of my heart to be properly put in our place. Time to break out the Britta filters!


alankhg

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Dec 15 2009 at 2:41am #

I’ll see your TTHM & raise you

Nice headwaters y’all got there.


WPANIC0000

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Dec 15 2009 at 3:04am #

Even though i’ve never been to Portland, i’ll take being a wimp in Portland over being a tough guy in Pittsburgh any day.

I’m 25 and moved to Pittsburgh from St. Paul a few months ago.

Portland sounds really nice to me :]


rainperimeter

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Dec 15 2009 at 3:13am #

http://fredericiana.com/2009/01/11/pittsburgh-number-1-in-pollution/

http://www.sustainlane.com/us-city-rankings/overall-rankings

http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/travel/photos/top-10-green-us-cities/1-portland-ore#image

on a side note; anyone of you from the new cumberland, w.virginia area? seriously.


spakbros

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Dec 15 2009 at 3:58am #

Best thread ever


erok

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Dec 15 2009 at 4:05am #

@ rainperimeter:

the singer of CIC designed our Bike Map. for reals.


erok

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Dec 15 2009 at 4:07am #

also:


rainperimeter

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Dec 15 2009 at 5:13am #

that must be the most metal bike map in all the land. that’s cool. i only saw them once. totally ruled. played with kalibas (rochester). also awesome. another pittsburgh band i really dug was sadis euphoria. in particular their e.p. fate of icarus was good…

i’ve seen that picture, or similar pics. a few years back i was interested in moving to pittsburgh, for kicks, i’ve known some good people from there. i was checking out pittsburgh info on the web quite a lot. decided not to move anywhere again however.

here’s a short spot the OPB did on a hill ride that happens here…

http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/segments/view/1728

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