Practical Preservation Strategies (self defense in the Strip)

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Jul 26 2013 at 6:29pm #

I could go on and on about how a majority of self defense stuff out there is almost always a scam. Most of it is taught by people who mean well but haven’t the slightest clue about what they are talking about and teach things that generally do not work when tested under real pressure.

Much of the content is verbal, some of it is weapons based but not all. The real meat of it is the verbal content, Managing Unknown Contacts. There will also be some Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu based techniques, basic stuff, taught as well.

I know it is not bicycle based but it is the closest thing to “real” as I have seen and being rooted in BJJ allows it to be things that anyone can do. Other arts such as Krav Maga and so on are striking based and rely on strength and/or use techniques that one cannot practice on a partner.

Anyway, I am rambling and given the time I have I don’t want to discredit the course with it. The content is great, proven, and easy for everyone. Any questions I can help answer or get the answer from the source.

It is open to non-members of the academy.


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Jul 26 2013 at 6:40pm #

Details? Where? When? Cost?


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Jul 26 2013 at 8:50pm #

Link somehow got skipped….

“Starts July 27th. Hosted by Stout Training Pittsburgh. Six weeks of coursework taking place Saturdays from 4:30pm until approximately 6:30pm. Training will include hands on and live physically demanding work. Specialty gear will be provided. A mouthpiece is mandatory. Boxing gloves, MMA gloves, and hand wraps are optional but highly recommended, and can be purchased at the beginning of the course on site. Groin protection and other gear optional. ”

ETA: While the poster shows a gun the class is not entirely gun centric, it will focus on some aspects though. As said before, the meat is in the non-gun stuff and how to handle strangers (unknown contacts) and deselect yourself as a victim.


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Jul 27 2013 at 9:49am #

Don’t know about this outfit, but I can highly recommend this one if you’re seriously interested in learning excellent self defense methods:

They’ve been on several local and national news programs; often consulted when one of those school or other crazy shooting incidents take place; work with a lot of professional businesses and agencies… When those rapes were taking place last year (I think it was last year) near North Park, these folks put together several free training sessions for the local residents.

Good program, good instruction.


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Jul 27 2013 at 11:41am #

Having an understanding of what they teach I have strayed from them. Much of their teaching is/was striking based (punching, etc) and that doesn’t work for quite a few people. Things may have changed but their business practices leave much to be desired.

How does one expect a 100 lb woman to outpunch a 200 lb man when the man has initiative and the woman is already fighting a reaction gap?

ETA: Simply put there is too much snake oil out there. There is no Consumer Reports for this kind of stuff and too much money is wasted. Someone who knows nothing can go out, spend $400 on a Brand X class and think they are ready to take on the world. There is no vetting of the content and no one ever questions the instructors.

That does not mean you should accept what I post as truth either. There is no way to vet my experiences either. I can surely provide more references to the content if someone so desires but that will still be a collection of anexdotal evidence.

The snake oil stuff permeates through the “self defense industry” because so many customers haven’t the slightest clue and all it takes to sell a class is a website, facebook page, or YouTube channel.

A majority of the techniques taught, especially in the womens only classes, are a joke and simply do not work. Try them. Find an MMA gym or a jiu-jitsu gym, or a friend and try them. Jiu-jitsu works because it is pressure tested against an opponent who wants to win. There is some adaptation required for “street” purposes though, hence the class link I posted.

Again, long winded but I can elaborate more specifically if needed.


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Jul 27 2013 at 9:20pm #

Looks interesting. I have no time to participate right now, but it sounds good, and if it is, I hope they do it again in a few months.


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Jul 27 2013 at 9:29pm #

@orionz06, speaking as a 100-110lb woman, I’m telling you that the INPAX training is good. It is not based on punching at all. They do teach some of that, but it’s far from the focus of the training. If you’re trying to call that training “snake oil” then I have to strongly disagree. I would (and do) bet my life on it. If you haven’t had the training, then I respectfully submit that you have no idea what it is or isn’t based on.


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Jul 27 2013 at 9:33pm #

jkp1187 wrote:Looks interesting. I have no time to participate right now, but it sounds good, and if it is, I hope they do it again in a few months.

That is my understanding. I have spoken with the person running it and expressed some tweaks that I think this community may be interested in. I wished to remember to mention it here earlier but life has been busy.

I am sure there will be some mentions of it on the Stout Training Facebook, the participants at the academy are pretty active on Facebook.

For those unable to commit to the whole 6 weeks they will do per session pricing.

*Disclosure: The person teaching it is a friend whom I met through training like this. I am not receiving any compensation for anything said here and frankly spitting the stuff out as rapidly as I did earlier does not do it any justice.


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Jul 29 2013 at 4:36pm #

From the RGA Facebook page:

“Interested in the course? Try a free sample this Thursday at 7:30pm at Renzo Gracie Pittsburgh Jiu Jitsu Academy. It is an hour free class. Bring mouthpiece and gloves if you have them. The regular Saturday Course is $235 for the remaining 5 weeks or $60/session.”

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