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things pampered european cyclists get

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StuInMcCandless

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Aug 24 2012 at 6:01pm #

I was thinking, shrink McKnight to 2 lanes each direction, make the curb lane a bike lane. A big honking roundabout at McKnight and Siebert, with this underneath. Routinely 50 cars at that corner, waiting to get through, 75 to 100 at rush hour & weekends. Make it possible for anything other than a car to get around the North Hills, and then people will use anything other than a car to get around the North Hills.

Another case would be Wm Penn & Stroschein in Monroeville.

West, I’d say Chartiers and Windgap.

South, the fustercluck at 51/88/Glenbury, if there was anyplace to go outside of it.

The problem with any of them is that it’s a chicken-and-egg situation, and huge hills everywhere (huge: > 3% grade) do not invite a lot of newbie cyclists. The people on this board tend to be hardy souls (Federal St, anyone? or Negley?) but hell, even Forbes past Maggie Mo is enough to quell ambition in a lot of people.

That said, maybe an in-city corner with a lot of bicycle traffic like Centre & Highland? Liberty at the Bloomfield Bridge? Liberty at Herron?


orionz06

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Aug 24 2012 at 6:23pm #

McKnight, with the right light timing and lanes, could be faster with only 2 main lanes.


bikeygirl

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Aug 24 2012 at 6:48pm #

I would go to Europe regardless of great bike infrastructure or not :)


StuInMcCandless

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Aug 24 2012 at 7:32pm #

^^underneath=meaning this should be overhead.

McKnight, apart from the insane traffic, is a very pleasant grade, once you get past the rolling hills between the East/Evergreen split and the U-Haul. And you can get to that point easily from the river trail, through Millvale, and up Babcock.


erok

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Oct 19 2012 at 2:29pm #

here’s a bike traffic signal in the netherlands that turns green faster when it’s raining

http://gemeente.groningen.nl/oosterpoort-de-linie-de-meeuwen/verkeerslichten-oosterbrug-voor-fietsers-sneller-op-groen-als-het-regent


Anonymous

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Oct 19 2012 at 3:15pm #

In Finland bike roads go below the intersections in many cases and all mail is delivered by bicycle. Red lights and the works in downtown. It is an amazing place to cycle. Wish I could find more pictures.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Baana%2C_a_bicycle_lane_in_the_center_of_Helsinki_20120626.jpg/800px-Baana%2C_a_bicycle_lane_in_the_center_of_Helsinki_20120626.jpg


Marko82

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Oct 19 2012 at 4:31pm #

gg, that’s backwards. The cars should be down there and the bikes up where the shops are. It would also make sitting at the sidewalk cafes more pleasent.


StuInMcCandless

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Oct 19 2012 at 4:44pm #

I would appreciate seeing more of those little ramps on the staircases to walk the bike up.

Why two? One for down, one for up, so two bicycles can pass?


Anonymous

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Oct 20 2012 at 2:27am #

#Stu Baby strollers.


Anonymous

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Oct 20 2012 at 4:29am #

No you don’t understand about Finland. They go under only at intersections. It doesn’t have anything to do with shops. It is one of the best countries to ride a bike. Believe me, I know. I lived there for several months. Best cycling I even enjoyed. Pittsburgh is a joke in comparison.


erok

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Oct 26 2012 at 1:36pm #

it was only a matter of time, and they may soon exist.

Heated bike lanes.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2012/10/invention-we-wish-we-had-heated-bike-lanes/3706/


StuInMcCandless

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May 8 2013 at 11:53am #

Stuttgart, Germany.


Mikhail

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May 8 2013 at 2:53pm #

StuInMcCandless wrote:Stuttgart, Germany.

Germany has its minuses. If there is a bike lane then you have to use it. And follow speed limit on it which is 15 mph in most cases. Friend of my mine got fined for speeding on a bicycle. :)


gg

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May 8 2013 at 10:47pm #

Mikhail wrote:

StuInMcCandless wrote:Stuttgart, Germany.

Germany has its minuses. If there is a bike lane then you have to use it. And follow speed limit on it which is 15 mph in most cases. Friend of my mine got fined for speeding on a bicycle. :)

I will take all that over the crap we deal with in our backwards potholed filled region. Pittsburgh is one tough place to ride a bike with horrible roads, aggressive self centered drivers and tons of debris all over the place. Lets face it, we are so far behind we will never see what most of Europe has in our lifetimes. It is what it is.


quizbot

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May 9 2013 at 12:39am #

Pic from Vancouver, not Europe:

Let’s make this happen on Liberty between Baum Blvd. & 34th St. both ways. You’ll need to lose a few feet of sidewalk through Bloomfield proper, but that would really only matter during Little Italy Days (one weekend per year). City could manage the already existing clusterfuck of foot & vehicle traffic by detouring Millvale to Main via Friendship… why don’t they do this during the festival anyway?

The whole protected bike lane idea is really kind of a no-brainer for getting more bike commuters out on the roads in the city, and I don’t fully understand why new improvements here don’t implement this concept. As long as you’re spending the money, just spend it once to do it right. Don’t come back for a do-over to correct mistakes 5 or 10 years later. (not blaming Bike PGH at all for the city being lack on vision, just frustrated by the red tape in general)


salty

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May 9 2013 at 1:25am #

Agree on everything but narrowing the sidewalks. Narrow the traffic lanes instead, which should have the side benefit of encouraging less speeding. If that’s not enough, get rid of parking on one side.


Ahlir

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May 9 2013 at 2:12pm #

And of course:

(Paris, Tour Montparnasse in the distance)


jonawebb

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May 9 2013 at 2:31pm #

I rode in lanes just like that in Philly at the end of CtC.


Benzo

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May 9 2013 at 2:33pm #

Ahlir wrote:And of course:

(Paris, Tour Montparnasse in the distance)

Would love to see this on Smithfield st, downtown. All we would have to do is paint a few markers on that street.


reddan

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May 9 2013 at 2:51pm #

I rode in lanes just like that in Philly at the end of CtC.

Yes, but you were slightly hallucinating by then, Jon. Those were actually chalk outlines…


jonawebb

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May 9 2013 at 3:12pm #

Well, it didn’t feel like I was hallucinating. I mean, the Arc de Triomphe seemed pretty real.


Elmo

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May 9 2013 at 3:34pm #

jonawebb wrote:I rode in lanes just like that in Philly at the end of CtC.

I ride in Philly often, and they are very loosely enforced. Specifically in Center City, cars and cabs go in them often. One thing we should be thankful for is that we don’t have a ton of cabs here. Their blatant disregard for traffic laws is always a fun obstacle.

That being said, Philly is a much easier place to ride than here. Largely due to the flat terrain and the presence of more cyclists, drivers tend to understand how to handle situations a little better.


erok

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Oct 30 2013 at 4:30pm #

Glow in the Dark bike paths in England

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2013/10/britain-experimenting-glowing-seemingly-self-aware-bike-path/7413/


rainbow dog

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Nov 18 2013 at 11:23pm #

How about this solution in Japan:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24960489

Talk about deterring bicycle thieves…
(oops… apologies for double posting)


jonawebb

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Dec 19 2013 at 2:23pm #

Now they’re just messing with us:

http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/08/copenhagens-bicycle-butlers.html

Wait, that’s an old story. Still pretty much showing off.


sew

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Jan 2 2014 at 12:53pm #

This video takes forever to load, just a heads up. This is “under consideration” but the costs seemed to be very expensive, I don’t see it becoming a reality with “investors and crowd sourcing.”

http://news.yahoo.com/video/cycling-sky-090809083.html


Marko82

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Jan 26 2014 at 12:06pm #

Hey, this is in Pittsburgh!

“There are now four warming stations: bus stops with heaters for people waiting in the cold for a bus. The stops are equipped with a heater that turns on with a button you push. They have also a motion detector which can trigger the heater.”

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/01/22/new-bus-stop-warming-stations-getting-rave-reviews/


stefb

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Jan 26 2014 at 8:36pm #

I saw that on blvd of the allies on Friday morning for the first time and thought I have been very unobservant for the past few years


Kordite

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Jan 28 2014 at 9:18am #

Warming stations? I was at the one on 4th last month and it wasn’t working.


Mick

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Jan 28 2014 at 1:40pm #

Things pampered Europeans get?

The Gulf Stream.


StuInMcCandless

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Jan 28 2014 at 7:27pm #

I unknowingly walked into one of the warming bus shelters, on Liberty opposite 9th St, Monday afternoon when it was starting to get bitter cold, and wondered why I wasn’t freezing. It has a button to start the heater, which then runs several minutes.


edmonds59

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Jan 29 2014 at 1:08pm #

Holy crabsticks, this rig beats the whole studded tire thing hands down. Let’s see if video will work (not youtube): (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = “//connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js#xfbml=1″; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); }(document, ‘script’, ‘facebook-jssdk’));
Post by Butchers & Bicycles, Copenhagen.


StuInMcCandless

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Feb 18 2014 at 6:14pm #

More cyclist pampering. From a tweet:

https://twitter.com/treehugger/status/435876878428016640


Mikhail

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Feb 25 2014 at 1:14pm #

Not european but…

http://31.media.tumblr.com/4934fced33cdf39ffe89a1c74da7ab9b/tumblr_n18ezyjGCC1rttacfo2_400.gif

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9833/247059991.0/0_cc104_7606b339_L.gif

This one for dogs of bicyclists to entertain best friends while riding…

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6443/137106206.325/0_c0edc_64ff7b84_orig

And I would tolerate this car usage :)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9328/247059991.0/0_cc103_ffc39372_M.gif


erok

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Mar 24 2014 at 2:05pm #

Aaaaaand…. the Bike elevator in Pamplona, Spain

http://www.treehugger.com/urban-design/designboom-elevator-bicycles-and-people-pamplona.html


fultonco

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Mar 24 2014 at 5:11pm #

@erok

“For the cost of about one mile of freeway, $50 million, we’ve built a network of 275 miles of bikeways, that’s one heck of a bang-for-your-buck investment.”
– Mia Birk, Alta Planning and Design

Great quote. It would really change our area if we could get our transportation agencies to begin thinking this way.


StuInMcCandless

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Mar 25 2014 at 6:45am #

I look at that elevator and think, That’s not all that different from our two inclines. Really, part of what we need are to put back a couple of the inclines we used to have.

The Knoxville Incline, St Clair and Penn Inclines went bankrupt and were taken out as recently as about 1960 because of the same tipped tables that made all the trolley and bus companies fold (forming the Port Authority, the phoenix rising from the ashes at the time). But with development again turning inward, I think it’s time we revisit the inclines.


byogman

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Mar 25 2014 at 8:06am #

How long is the wait for the inclines? I like digging back into our history and all, but I think a lot of people don’t do multi-modal because they don’t like waiting and running on schedules and… how many cars can you run physically? In a semi cost effective manner? I’m thinking not as many as you’d want.

I kind of doubt the idea would ever get traction, presumably lawyers would kill it, but I very much like the minimalism and continuous service provided by a chair lift like at ski resorts. Wouldn’t be hard to add bike hangars to that.

Or maybe like what they have at the zoo, a covered outdoor escalator. Just add a bike rail to that and I’m a happy camper!


Benzo

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Mar 25 2014 at 8:19am #

Johnstown, PA (that place that flooded a long time ago, paid for by a, still active, tax on liquor ) has an awesome incline. You can even take your car on it.

http://www.inclinedplane.org/


Benzo

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Mar 25 2014 at 8:19am #

Built after the Johnstown flood of 1889, the Inclined Plane’s original purpose was to connect downtown with the higher grounds of Westmont Borough in order to develop that area residentially. During Johnstown’s two other floods in 1936 and 1977, the Incline became a lifesaver, helping people to escape downtown as well as to ship supplies into the valley.

In its heyday, the Incline carried approximately 1,000,000 passengers a year to and from the downtown area. This was larely due to the steel mills that were in operation. Today the Incline welcomes visitors and locals alike, carrying approximately 100,000 passengers a year.

The Johnstown Inclined Plane is the steepest vehicular incline in the world, meaning its 30ft wide cars, which are large enough to hold 60 people, 6 motorcycles, or a vehicle, travel at the steepest grade for cars their size.

No trip to Johnstown is complete without a visit to our world-famous Inclined Plane

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