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This crap is getting old

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stefb

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Jun 6 2013 at 6:39pm #

This brings me to another question: why are there not signs that say cyclists get 4 feet by law? The share the road signs aren’t cutting it.


ajbooth

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Jun 6 2013 at 9:37pm #

stefb wrote:This brings me to another question: why are there not signs that say cyclists get 4 feet by law? The share the road signs aren’t cutting it.

That’s a great question. As the police officer told me yesterday, a lot of people don’t understand the law, and they get angry based on what they THINK the law should be.


ajbooth

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Jun 6 2013 at 9:39pm #

mpm wrote:My suggestion — mount the camera on your helmet, not your handlebars. It’ll record everything you’re looking at.

I had it on my helmet, and it made me realize how much I move my head when I commute. Watching the video playback almost made me nauseous.


Mick

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Jun 7 2013 at 10:19am #

stefb wrote:This brings me to another question: why are there not signs that say cyclists get 4 feet by law? The share the road signs aren’t cutting it.

+1


jonawebb

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Jun 7 2013 at 10:28am #

I still think we should get BikePgh to make 4 feet please license plates. With 5,000 members they’d sell out in a hurry, BikePgh would make money, and lots of folks would learn about the 4-foot law. http://bikepgh.org/mb/topic/lets-get-bikepgh-specialty-license-plates/#post-270600


buffalo buffalo

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Jun 7 2013 at 10:45am #

ajbooth wrote:

Mick wrote:One of ajbooths videos caused a drunkard to get fined. Like, in a court of law.To me, that justifies any number of his videos being posted here.

Thanks Mick, I was ignoring that post because I wasn’t sure what Quizbot’s point was.

Quizbot has posted videos here before, and gotten yelled at from certain quarters for yelling at drivers and other actions that some more pacific members of the mb thought were overly aggressive.


Steven

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Jun 7 2013 at 11:58am #

“If you just learned about the 4 foot law, you’re driving too close.”

I’m not convinced a license plate is big enough to usefully convey a message about the 4 foot law. Street signage would be better. The next time the city puts up Share the Road signs in response to a bike collision, make some of them about the 4 foot law instead.


StuInMcCandless

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Jun 7 2013 at 1:21pm #

I am actually against the idea of a license plate. At least I would not purchase one. Reasoning: I am rarely in my car, and my wife would take the bulk of the heat concerning the plate. Things would not end well.


buffalo buffalo

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Jun 7 2013 at 1:32pm #

Steven wrote:I’m not convinced a license plate is big enough to usefully convey a message about the 4 foot law. Street signage would be better.

The update to the Federal Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices that approved sharrows also included a ‘Bikes May Use Full Lane’ sign: http://www.cyclelicio.us/2009/new-federal-traffic-signs-standard-includes-bike-signs/

> 02 The Bicycles May Use Full Lane sign may be used in locations where it is important to inform road users that bicyclists might occupy the travel lane.MUTCD 2009, Section 9B.06

…we should get some.


ajbooth

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Jun 7 2013 at 1:46pm #

buffalo buffalo wrote:Quizbot has posted videos here before, and gotten yelled at from certain quarters for yelling at drivers and other actions that some more pacific members of the mb thought were overly aggressive.

Well, I certainly won’t be posting video of this incident then…even I blush when I hear myself. I was as angry as I’ve been in a long time.


jonawebb

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Sep 6 2013 at 8:45am #

Hey, I caught a driver making a close pass on Tilbrook Road out here in Monroeville. I took photos of the pass to the Monroeville Police Department last night. It was kind of a weird interaction. I felt really out of place, like a whiny biker talking to the big police officer, who matched exactly in body type and booming voice the guy who gave me a ticket for taking the lane. And seemed similarly uninformed. He’d never heard of the 4-foot law. Anyway, after some questioning that seemed directed to why I was complaining since all the guy did was pass me close, he agreed to call the owner of the car. No ticket, since I can’t identify the driver. I guess it’s better than nothing, and I did get a chance to educate another human being about the 4-foot law. It appears that suburban cops don’t spend a lot of time keeping up to date on changes in bicycling law.


StuInMcCandless

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Sep 6 2013 at 8:53am #

My wife, who’s an R.N., has to take 30 hours of training every other year to maintain her license. I do not understand how someone who also deals with public safety and people’s lives is not also required to do likewise.

I was originally thinking about this for drivers. I’m now starting to think about that for cops, too.

Taking that one further, when I worked in Nuclear Safety, we had to be trained on every new regulation, and sign on the dotted line that we had such training, or we would not be able to keep our jobs.


stefb

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Sep 6 2013 at 9:50am #

I had a driver in such a hurry this morning that he/she came within 6 inches of hitting my back wheel. I braced for impact. I was heading straight through a green on grant in the left lane in order to turn left at blvd of the allies. I had my 800 lumen light on my helmet. I was shining it at the car coming in opposite direction. He/she put a turn signal on as he/she was making their left as he/She was cutting diagonally across the block into my lane of travel at 40mph. I really don’t know how I wasn’t hit.


Mick

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Sep 6 2013 at 10:47am #

@ stu I am actually against the idea of a license plate. At least I would not purchase one. Reasoning: I am rarely in my car, and my wife would take the bulk of the heat concerning the plate. Things would not end well.

That’s a good reason for you and your wife not to get one of those plates.

IMO, it isn’t a good reason to be against the plates.


StuInMcCandless

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Sep 6 2013 at 11:56am #

Yeah, different things, you’re right.


ErinK

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Sep 6 2013 at 3:07pm #

I was thinking about getting a ride camera but I couldn’t decide whether to mount it on front or back. Lots of bad things happen from behind me, but (usually) you can’t get a license plate number from the front of a car.

I kind of think I need both. Any cheap but reasonable suggestions? (My commute is less than half an hour, so I could probably live with limited storage space.)


StuInMcCandless

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Sep 6 2013 at 4:27pm #

Mount it backward. If shit happens and the car passes you, yell out the plate number the second you see it. Your video will capture the sound of you yelling, which is evidence enough, and the video itself will clearly show that you were in the right and that someone else was not. Yell it twice, clear as a bell.


Marko82

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Sep 9 2013 at 9:50am #

Yet another reason to have a camera. Police make up their own story on “accident”, from Downunder:

http://www.examiner.com.au/story/1762963/cyclist-hit-by-car-challenges-police-over-fine-video-evidence/


jonawebb

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Sep 9 2013 at 10:12am #

Another thing to remember is that the driver probably won’t get a ticket unless you see them. You can and should still report the incident, because the police can contact the car owner, but if you have a chance to catch up and view the driver — better, get a picture — without risk to yourself, you should do that.

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