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gg

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Jul 13 2013 at 3:17pm #

jonawebb wrote:@gg more convincing if you weren’t referring to women as girls…

They are half my age, so they seem like girls to me, but if that is all you can gripe about, then yeah, I made a very strong case and sure, I could have used the word “women”. Anyway, just because the US is sue happy, doesn’t mean other countries are. There is a big world out there and we don’t control other cultures thank goodness. Apology given, apology excepted. As far as her thinking about losing her job because of a lawsuit, I doubt she even thought about running to an attorney (mommy) and telling, “he hit me”. Not all countries are like the US you know.


JaySherman5000

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Jul 15 2013 at 9:25am #

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France#Origins

Fun fact: the Tour de France was started as a last-ditch effort to increase newspaper sales of a daily sports rag called L’Auto, which I’m reasonably certain is French for “The Car.” The paper was struggling with their rival publication: Le Vélo. Again, I’m reasonably certain that translates into English as “the bike” or “the bicycle.”

So, it seems the race that bills itself as the most prestigious in all of its sport was started in order to help “The Car” defeat “The Bicycle.”

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LizziMac

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Jul 15 2013 at 10:24am #

I did a little digging and found that L’Auto was named thusly as an homage to the climate of excitement related to car racing among sports enthusiasts at the time. In fact, L’Auto was originally entitled L’Auto-Velo, which was deemed too close to L’Velo (their competitor), so they dropped the “Velo” and created a cycling race to promote their magazine that highlighted car racing in an attempt to overcome L’Velo.

Loosely translated: “We will take the Car-Bike, remove the ‘Bike’ so we only have the Car, crush the Bike with the Car with a bike race, leaving only the Car the victor.”

Oh France.


helen s

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Jul 15 2013 at 12:06pm #

Quite the ride yesterday. I felt fortunate to turn on the tv when I got home to see the last 10k or so. I was impressed.


HiddenVariable

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Jul 17 2013 at 2:20pm #

in other tour de france news


Pierce

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Jul 17 2013 at 4:17pm #

“If France wants podium girls and are more laid back about women’s bodies and don’t look at it sexually like we do, then that is their right.”

That’s what you call a strong case? Was the pinch intended in a non-sexual way? If their bodies aren’t sexualized, what is driving the wardrobe choices? Regardless of France’s culture, the TdF is an international competition and should be held to international standards.

Considering the enormity of global violence against women, yes, sexual assault should be treated seriously.

I would not participate in an award ceremony like that and we probably should not be participating in Interbike if the same crap is happening there. Sexism needs to be challenged at all levels.

What the guy needs to do now is quickly get married, and the whole story will be forgotten and he can continue on with his career.


Mick

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Jul 17 2013 at 4:29pm #

I had lunch in OTB today and saw some of the tour.

What surprised me that people lined the road, yet no one reached out and grabbed riders – even though that would have put them on international TV.

I imaigine it happens some (IIRC, it’ve heard of it) . But not enough for it to be unacceptable to have spectators close enough to be able to harass the rivals of their favorites.

Hard to imagine that happening with a popular sport here.


mr marvelous

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Jul 17 2013 at 5:59pm #

@Mick it has happened but it is very rare. In 100 years of the Tour it hasn’t happened that often.


Mikhail

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Jul 18 2013 at 9:18am #

Pierce wrote:the TdF is an international competition and should be held to international standards.

And US standards are not international ones. Neither by people population nor by territory.


Mikhail

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Jul 18 2013 at 9:19am #

Pierce wrote:What the guy needs to do now

Sorry, but who are you to tell Peter what to do?

You know there is Russian saying: Don’t tell me what to do and I would not tell you where to go.


Mikhail

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Jul 18 2013 at 9:23am #

Mick wrote:What surprised me that people lined the road, yet no one reached out and grabbed riders – even though that would have put them on international TV.

This is an American version. I can give you EuroSport version (lengthy, about 5-6 hours) and you see how people reaching them, public urination of whole peloton, etc. Moreover, it’s a tradition o push riders up to the hill (but not leaders). Guess where do they reach to push guys?


edmonds59

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Jul 18 2013 at 9:46am #

Not to be supportive of the practice, but I would hardly say the podium women’s wardrobe is “sexualized”, at least not in comparison to any typical American teenage High School cheerleading squad. Just pretty average, tasteful women’s clothing, tame by any US standard.


reddan

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Jul 18 2013 at 10:07am #

Pierce wrote:the TdF is an international competition and should be held to international standards.

And US standards are not international ones. Neither by people population nor by territory.

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The wonderful thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper


Mikhail

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Jul 18 2013 at 10:08am #

mr marvelous wrote:@Mick it has happened but it is very rare. In 100 years of the Tour it hasn’t happened that often.

Nope — this is a quote from live feed (http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/live/aso/):

17:03 Riblon: 30″ behind Van Garderen

Van Garderen is still racing for the stage win. He’s having to fend off idiot spectators who have been pushing and shoving him while they “cheer” but the American is still 30″ ahead of his nearest rival, Riblon.


quizbot

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Jul 18 2013 at 11:23pm #

Bernard Hinault on Paris-Nice in 1984, road blocked by protesting workers and trade union officials from a nearby shipyard.

Tejay van Garderen went after at least one douche bag today on Alpe d’Huez. Was glad to see it.


mr marvelous

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Jul 19 2013 at 6:51am #

“During stage 14 a spectator leapt from the crowd and punched Merckx in the kidney. Frenchman Bernard Thevenet took over the lead, and after Merckx fell and broke his cheekbone, he was unable to take back the lead, and Thevenet became the winner of the race.”


edmonds59

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Jul 19 2013 at 11:33am #

This is completely awesome. I’ve heard of taking a trip to the Tour, but…


edmonds59

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Jul 22 2013 at 11:28am #

What am I going to do with this emptiness in my life?


Marko82

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Jul 22 2013 at 12:16pm #

@edmounds, 2013 Tour de Wallonie is being held from July 20-24

Live streamed… http://cyclingfans.com/tour-de-wallonie/live

Ok, so it may be a little bit of a let down in talent.


Mikhail

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Jul 22 2013 at 8:07pm #


Tour de France City Bike…


reddan

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Jul 22 2013 at 9:10pm #


Tour de France City Bike…

Can you get a front Zipp with a dynamo hub?


helen s

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Jul 23 2013 at 5:26am #

I really enjoyed the light for final stage – Paris at twilight! “L’heure entre chien et loup” – perhaps my favorite French phrase- the time between dog and wolf.


edmonds59

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Jul 23 2013 at 5:48am #

@helen, yes, I loved the evening finish. Even my wife who couldn’t care less about biking or racing, said “Well why don’t we go there sometime for that”. !
That phrase is pretty amazing. I don’t know French but I’ve always wanted to learn.


Italianblend

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Jul 24 2013 at 12:57pm #

I have withdraw. I just love early July. I have the summer off so I do my exercise or whatever and DVR the stage and then spend the day watching it. I can’t believe it’s almost August. I enjoyed this years’s tour a lot. Was disapointed in team BMC, was really hoping TeJay would have a better year. But I found my new favorite pro is Quintana. Excellent little climber that guy.

Froome was really impressive. He simply answered every attack. He really was the best rider out there. I hope next year is just as good. End amateur analysis.


mr marvelous

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Jul 24 2013 at 1:56pm #

The question is what does this mean for Wiggins next year.


mryoshi

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Jul 24 2013 at 6:44pm #

Watching the alpine stages made me wonder how far I’d need to go to find some longish (5 miles or more) ascents. I know we don’t have vonteaux in our back yard but it would be fun to go up something remotely comparable just to pretend. Any ideas?


Jacob McCrea

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Jul 24 2013 at 7:04pm #

Three suggestions:

Sugarlands Road, Tucker County, WV.

Location Road out of St. George, WV.

Route 219 from Hambleton, WV up to the Tucker County High School.


Mikhail

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Jul 26 2013 at 2:58pm #

TDF 1998
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/24/us-doping-cycling-france-idUSBRE96N0PA20130724 — Pantani doped, Ullrich doped, Julich doped (top thre winners), Durand doped, Jalabert doped, . Total 40 people out of less than 200 doped.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/more-sports/i-doped-for-1998-tour-de-france-confesses-australian-cycling-star-stuart-ogrady/story-fnibbyyv-1226684658992 — O’Grady doped.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/cycling/1998/tourdefrance/news/1998/08/02/drug_chronology/

July 31 – Massi and Terrados are placed under formal investigation. The remaining riders of the TVM team drop out. There are 14 teams left from the original 21, and less than 100 riders from the original 189.

ANd WADA does not check every rider.

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