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Where do we most need another bike lane?

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J Z

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Feb 14 2013 at 11:58am #

My $0.02 is connecting the Beacon Street bike lanes to Hobart Road/Panther Hollow Road/Blvd. of the Allies. Traffic typically goes way above the posted speed limit and I see a lot of cyclists use it (even as suboptimal as it is) to get from Squirrel Hill into South/Central Oakland and/or dropping down Bates into South Side.

That Hobart Road/Beacon Street intersection is nasty, too.


rice rocket

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Feb 14 2013 at 12:01pm #

Hobart is pretty narrow, where are you putting this bike lane?


Benzo

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Feb 14 2013 at 1:54pm #

If you’re posting in this thread and not commenting on the move-pgh plan, then stop posting in this thread and go comment now.

People outside of the boards will probably read those comments, they probably won’t see these comments. It’s likely that this is what they are going to at least partially use to justify the projects to prioritize.

Really, go do it, then tell use what you did. Then encourage other people to comment more.


jonawebb

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Feb 14 2013 at 2:07pm #

OK, I recommended the connection to the cycle track on Fort Pitt Boulevard, the Greenfield Ave. improvements including sharrows downhill and a bike lane uphill. I also disapproved of the proposed change to improve the stairs on the Murray Ave bridge by adding a bike rail and suggested building a stair street between Greenfield Road and Saline St. instead. (The stair improvement on the Murray Ave bridge is part of a detour around the Greenfield Bridge when it is closed. But it would end up dumping bike traffic onto the sidewalk since Beechwood is one way at that point. It would be better to connect Greenfield Road to Saline St. directly, as someone here proposed.)


J Z

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Feb 14 2013 at 2:30pm #

@ricerocket, what I was envisioning was a connection between the Beacon St. bike lanes and perhaps extending them down Panther Hollow Road and down BOA.

I commented on planpgh, under project I-047.


Val

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Feb 14 2013 at 2:32pm #

I’m not saying there aren’t other spots that perhaps need a lane more, but I personally find the lack of a good lane from the Point to the furnace trail is what costs me more time than anything else. Of course I don’t commute through some other parts of the city but it seems like with this area being so central to residents and visitors alike, it would be a logical and wise addition. But another bike lane anywhere makes me happy!


Marko82

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Feb 14 2013 at 3:36pm #

I commented on the two Becks Run projects. I didnt even know these were on anyone’s radar even if they are 20 years out. I suggested a shared use sidewalk, I should probably go back and do the same for Fifth Ave. headed to Oakland too.


Benzo

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Feb 14 2013 at 3:52pm #

Here’s some of the projects I endoresed and/or commented on:

Cut through on west side of train tracks from junction hollow trail to eliza furnace trail, avoiding the cattle chute and the train track hop over shortcut (PB-238)

Forbes ave cycletrack through the middle of oakland (PB-230) along with better connectors to birmingham bridge and uptown for forbes (PB-230) and fifth (PB-229). Also, a connection from the bridge to eliza furnace trail (PB-126). I didn’t like their plan for forbes, but something needs to be done, I commented with some suggestions,

Good stuff with extending the trails from the strip district to lawrenceville along the river (PB-006) and along the AVRR right of way (PB-085) aka the allegheney green blvd!

How about extending the hazelwood trail closer to duck hollow (PB-065).

Contraflow allowed with one way on friendship ave (PB-137) at baum/penn circle. I commented on the need to redesign the intersection where friendship, baum, and penn circle meet.

We could also extend the 3 rivers trail adjacent to the terrible west carson st (PB-015).

These things are already proposed… they will make a difference. Comment on them, make them better.


Jack

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Feb 14 2013 at 8:30pm #

I hope everyone takes the comments and ideas they posted here and goes to the PLANPGH |MOVEPGH site and matches them to the projects shown there if possible. If there is no match do a “write in”

Here are the projects I commented on and ranked as Very Important:
PB006, PB215, PB216.

These three projects would complete a bike commuter trail from the Cork Factory (24th St.?) through to about 47th St. in Lawrenceville.


byogman

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Feb 15 2013 at 12:12am #

I voted on the uphill lane on Greenfield Avenue, and attached liberal commentary to it suggesting how to make it into a solid connection for squirrel hill folks.

Lanes in both directions on Greenfield Rd. Uphill lane AND sharrow in left turn lane coming up Hobart from intersection with Greenfield Rd. Sharrows on the narrow section of Beacon before it gets bike lanes.

I also voted on the EFT connection to the bridge and included liberal commentary about the need to use that to avoid the chute/loop connecting EFT to Schenley Park too and just how embarrassingly bad the whole thing is.

J Z, I dearly the idea of the road down the spine of the Schenley park not being a highway, I go 30+ on the downhill and get passed like I’m standing still. 45 is average, 50+ is depressingly common. Traffic volumes on that road and blvd of the allies, especially on the ride home, they’re pretty nuts. I’m not really sure how you can carve out lanes for bikes and get that past any traffic study. Maybe, just maybe you could do it just on uphills, like between the bridge and bates (and between bates and craft would be awfully nice on the other side), but even that feels a bit sketchy given traffic volume on blvd. And you’d have to do something with trails off overlook, not on Panther Hollow directly, since there we’re dealing with fast, busy, narrowish lanes AND in some cases, limited visibility.

This is fun/interesting to think about, I want to see it. But Greenfield Avenue improvements and improving connections to/from feels a lot more realistic. Just my gut instinct.


pinky

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Feb 15 2013 at 8:31am #

I didn’t know about the map, but I love it! I commented on (of course) the improvements around the West End Bridge and West Carson St.


Ahlir

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Feb 15 2013 at 9:08am #

Did a pass on rating the projects.
Some of them seem a bit weird, like bike lanes on the ELB; I thought we had them, pretty much (well, definitely inbound). I really like the Bates PB-222 proposal that looks like it might finally fix that stretch.

Is there any way to make actual suggestions (as the intro implies you can)? “Sometimes computer models miss the nuances of a neighborhood or a street in a way that only neighborhood residents can understand” The current setup only lets you comment on existing proposals. Letting us point out other needs would seem to be useful.


Benzo

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Feb 15 2013 at 9:30am #

The city already had a series of move-pgh workshops in different neighborhoods. That was when they were gathering for feedback on what projects to include. Might have missed the boat on a bit of that.


Ahlir

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Feb 15 2013 at 9:46am #

@benzo: ok, but the quote suggested that it was otherwise…
Also, us mobile people will have opinions on issues beyond the neighborhoods we happen to live in.


Benzo

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Feb 15 2013 at 10:07am #

“Also, us mobile people will have opinions on issues beyond the neighborhoods we happen to live in.”

@Ahlir – There were no barriers to entry, anyone could go. There were 4 community workshops. These were promoted by bike-pgh.

http://bikepgh.org/blog/2012/07/24/aug-6-8-movepgh-community-workshops-east-end/

http://bikepgh.org/blog/2012/06/06/movepgh-community-workshops-northern-western-southern-neighborhoods/

http://bikepgh.org/blog/2012/05/01/movepgh-community-workshops-downtown-lower-hill-uptown-south-side-flats-and-second-ave-corridor/

http://bikepgh.org/blog/2012/03/26/movepgh-community-workshops-northside-allegheny-riverfront-and-west-end-valley/


Benzo

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Feb 15 2013 at 10:17am #

I’m not trying to criticize, I’m just trying to explain the process. They have moved on and received feedback about what projects are important to and complied this list of projects, in great part, due to these meetings. That phase ended, and now they are trying to figure out which projects to work.

The comment phase for these projects has a limited window too, it’s over at the end of the month. I wanted to nudge people to comment and help prioritize things. If the people in the bike community are not loud enough, projects that we want might not get done, or done quickly. So, we have an opportunity to get involved now, so let’s work with the system and do it. Be honest about what’s important and what’s not. Overwhelm them with “very important” votes for the most important bike projects that will have an impact.


Ahlir

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Feb 15 2013 at 11:47am #

Understood.

The comment was prompted by my desire to make the seemingly obvious suggestion to extend the North Shore trail to Etna/Sharpsburg. But perhaps that’s beyond the scope of the MovePgh effort, or it’s already happening.


StuInMcCandless

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Feb 15 2013 at 12:10pm #

I commented on a couple beyond the first one I commented on. And I may contribute more, as time permits.

Here are a couple more that I commented on:

PB-232, adding bike lanes to Fifth Ave, Downtown. Gave it a thumbs up.

B-025, Greenfield Bridge replacement, I added the suggestion to build a staircase street (ideally, ADA-accessible) between Saline St and Greenfield to connect that neighborhood to Schenley Park, and I also put in a plug for rebuilding the steps above Ivondale St up to Greenfield Elementary.


Benzo

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Feb 15 2013 at 12:34pm #

@Ahlir – Actually, that is probably outside of the scope, since that falls out of the borders of the city of pittsburgh. Move-pgh is limited in scope to only Pittsburgh.

Although, I think friends of the riverfront would like to make this happen. I’m pretty sure they are the stewards of the river trail system and are working to expand it. I think they are also the ones working to complete the GAP trail. They are also a membership organization like bike-pgh and appreciate membership and donations.

However, I don’t know how imminent any plans are for expansions towards aspinwall. I know they are currently working towards redeveloping the aspinwall marina. They have links to feasability studies for a lot of proposed trails along the river.

http://www.friendsoftheriverfront.org/files/trail_status.html#aspinwallmarina


ericf

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Feb 15 2013 at 1:49pm #

How about Negley Ave, between ELB and Ellsworth. Connect the ELB bike lane to the sharrows on Ellsworth. Or would that make too much sense?


byogman

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Feb 15 2013 at 2:10pm #

I hope the city and outlying jurisdictions are working well with and contributing funding toward any efforts friends of the riverfront is making that extend river-side trails, and making connecting plans.

They’re really critical pieces of transportation infrastructure, non-motorized highways really. You can push them out 10 miles, maybe even a bit more, and keep hooking in new regular riders.


WillB

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Feb 15 2013 at 4:33pm #

Commented in support of bike lanes on liberty downtown, penn through garfield/bloomfield, and the switchback section(s) to connect the point to the rest of the GAP. I was pleasantly surprised to see that so many of the proposed projects were bike/ped projects, and that a great many of them were ranked with the highest priority.

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