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Anonymous

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Dec 28 2012 at 1:45pm #

I’ve been itching to get up there. If it’s something you could do as a lunchtime ride I’m game… really any day but today unfortunately (early sunset curtains my workday too much this time of year).


Anonymous

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Dec 28 2012 at 2:09pm #

I can ride during lunch on some days. Monday is my day off, so to speak, when I get to go ramble around and ride to my hearts content. I either ride road or a cross bike in/through Riverview, but would want to hit some trails if we focus on the park itself. Did you want to incorporate trails, too? I don’t have every one of the sections memorized but I know the area well enough to put together some fun combos/loops. I like that you can combine pavement and trails to blast around the hillsides, and double back for more if you want. Sorry for rambling but I like Riverview. There’s even a bar I’ve yet to check out.


Anonymous

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Dec 28 2012 at 3:07pm #

So Monday then, works for me. I’m always good for a brew mid ride.

As for trail riding, I think that would have to depend very heavily on how much things have cleared between now and then. I don’t have studded tires, knobby tires, or even room for the “zip tie trick” between my rear wheel and fender.


bear250220

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Dec 29 2012 at 4:42pm #

i bought a fluid trainer at performace bike in east liberty i tried running and hurt my knee so ill be riding indoors till some of this snow melts


mr marvelous

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Dec 29 2012 at 5:06pm #

I’m about to take the bike for a ride now. If I waited till the snow melted I wouldn’t have a job.


stefb

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Dec 29 2012 at 5:20pm #

Just saw a badass riding his bike down Negley toward 5th!!!


Drewbacca

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Dec 29 2012 at 5:40pm #

I left my disc-brake bike in Chicago *doh!* I can’t wait to try this out!!! Harbor Freight is a good place to get cheap zip-ties.

@pbeaver, how’s the ride quality? Was it worthwhile?


mr marvelous

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Dec 29 2012 at 10:51pm #

Studded tires, granny gear, blinky light, snow not a problem, cars passing too close problem. Still enjoyed riding in the snow.


Anonymous

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Dec 30 2012 at 12:53am #

the concept of the ties worked well, could definately feel a difference in traction.

the ones i used were too short, and i lost about 1/2 of them on a 5 mile round trip.

(so i took the mtn tires of my +1 for now.)


Marko82

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Dec 30 2012 at 2:16am #

Why stop at ties?

http://www.mtnbikeriders.com/2007/02/13/diy-tire-chains/


stefb

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Dec 30 2012 at 12:33pm #

So after Saturday’s snowfall, how do the jail trail and panther hollow look?


StuInMcCandless

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Dec 30 2012 at 2:12pm #

I already have an ice pack forming in the driveway, so I suspect the Second Avenue ramp to the HMB will be a frozen mess soon, if it isn’t already.


Anonymous

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Dec 30 2012 at 4:54pm #

the sidewalk ramp from second onto the bridge looked like it was being maintained by the building facilities dept for the office park. but insofar as only to where the ramp went up to the bridge, not extending any removeal on the bridge surface itself.

that was on thursday though, unsure of current status.


Steven

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Dec 30 2012 at 6:06pm #

This thread is misbehaving, not showing pbeaver’s post on page 2. Let’s see if this fixes it. ETA: Yup, that did it. Hope the promised message board fixes take care of this.


StuInMcCandless

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Jan 1 2013 at 12:21am #

Unicycle tracks!

One track out, one track back

One track out, one track back.


Anonymous

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Jan 1 2013 at 10:00pm #

I just went through Junction Hollow–it’s slushy and icy and rutted, and is likely to be nigh on impassable when it freezes up. The Jail Trail is mostly good, except for a few places. I rode up 40th Street in Lawrenceville, which I think was a much better choice than Liberty–the Liberty bike lanes are full of snow (at least through Bloomfield), and I got buzzed three times in about two blocks.

However, still glad I rode!


stefb

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Jan 1 2013 at 10:15pm #

yeah the bike lane has intermittent piles on snow in the bike lane on liberty. not fun. a lot of it appears to have been dragged into the bike lane by people who park on that street.


Anonymous

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Jan 1 2013 at 11:16pm #

Ugh. Do you think it’s worth a 311?


Pseudacris

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Jan 1 2013 at 11:21pm #

Everything’s worth a 311! I have found them to be pretty responsive when I submit requests RE the Forbes Ave lanes. Liberty gets a lot more use…


Anonymous

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Jan 1 2013 at 11:23pm #

from what i have observed any currently plowed bike lanes have been the rsult of a meandering city plow driver. i.e.: not intentional.

311 ftw


Anonymous

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Jan 1 2013 at 11:28pm #

Excellent–I’ll send it in.


mr marvelous

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Jan 2 2013 at 12:35am #

Don’t laugh at me but because I use the jail train every other day and the bike lanes are covered in ice…. I mounted studded tires on today.


StuInMcCandless

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Jan 2 2013 at 1:22am #

outbound Brighton Road, same story.


helen s

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Jan 2 2013 at 5:59pm #

I am assuming studded tires do give a bit more traction for forward spinning force, but do they do anything for handling in frozen ruts that throw your front wheel sideways?

The trail was barely rideable this morning- maybe some sun will help today.

I was passed twice by a city truck with trailer carrying bags of ice and two small snow blowers.


mr marvelous

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Jan 3 2013 at 12:46am #

The wider tires help with the ruts that are on the trail. Studded tires run from about 700×35- 700×47. there may be even more sizes available, I had little trouble on the trail using them. But they are heavy, slow, and loud. And when the snow is gone you hate having them on because of how heavy they are.


jonawebb

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Jan 3 2013 at 1:31am #

They don’t help that much on ruts, which are a total pain anyway. And they are really slow. But when it’s icy and snowy out I’m glad I have them.


salty

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Jan 3 2013 at 3:41am #

Ruts are just as dangerous, unfortunately. The only purpose of the studs is improved traction on ice.

I just mounted a set of Nokian IceSpeed tires on my bike. I’ll get to see how they work tomorrow because the bike path parallel to Penn is mostly covered with ice. Tonight I was able to ride on it with my normal tires (700×32, fairly slick) but only very slowly (~5mph) with almost no traction.

When I got to the other part of the trail around the ballfield it had a lot more snow on it. I’ve ridden through similar conditions on my MTB with knobbies hundreds of times without much of an issue… but with slick tires I slid off towards the side, buried the front wheel in the deep snow, and nearly went OTB down the hill. So I decided to walk the rest of the way. It took me >5 minutes to get through that part vs the usual 90 seconds.


Anonymous

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Jan 3 2013 at 11:57am #

Took the trail home last night and it was not in great shape. Better than in the morning, but still mostly ice.

Rode into the parking lot this morning and it did not look promising, so I took Second Ave. The part where it goes completely dark in the overpass is always a good time…


edmonds59

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Jan 3 2013 at 12:51pm #

The snow on my sidewalk was crunching like styrofoam. Effing cold.


Anonymous

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Jan 3 2013 at 1:07pm #

Elmo, don’t know your schedule, but if you’d like some backup on the 2nd avenue riding PM me and I’ll try to make it happen.


salty

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Jan 3 2013 at 4:39pm #

Ok, here’s my report on the icespeeds: not perfect, but definite thumbs up!

In reverse of last night, on the snowy section they were not great. I was able to ride the whole way, so that’s an improvement – but it was a struggle to stay upright and the rear wheel was slipping a lot. I suspect they’re just not wide/knobby enough for serious snow, you really want 2″+ MTB tires for that situation. Also I put 50psi in them, lowering that might help.

The second section (east of Putnam) was easy going although I suspect that may have been aided by an application of salt this morning. I deliberately rode on the part that was still icy although it was a bit slushy. No problems at all.

On the other side of Putnam it was still glassy ice, and I could not have been more impressed with the tires. It wasn’t quite like riding on clean pavement but the tires were not sliding at all. Definitely makes it worthwhile in my book.


pearmask

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Jan 4 2013 at 6:38pm #

I have a nice chunk missing from my knee thanks to the lovely condition of that trail parallel to Penn Ave and my laziness about swapping the cyclocross tires out for the studded ones that I really needed. And I’ve still been too lazy to swap them out, so I’ve just been riding Penn this past week.


jonawebb

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Jan 4 2013 at 6:49pm #

Last night i was riding on the snow-covered trail at the end of Kensington that connects to Reynolds and found it not bad at all thanks to my snow tires (Nokian Hakkapelitta). It doesn’t have ruts, though. But the only dicey part was going downhill, when I’m afraid to use my brakes. Otherwise, snow is no worse than slightly rough ground. And ice is actually perfectly nice when it’s level — very smooth and quiet, as my studs dig in.


mr marvelous

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Jan 4 2013 at 8:35pm #

I agree with Jonawebb about the Nokian Hakkapelitta’s. I absolutely hate 2nd Ave and these tires have kept me going on the jail trail so far. More importantly they have saved me on black ice and areas where people shovel snow into the street and not their yards.


stefb

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Jan 4 2013 at 8:39pm #

WHY DO PEOPLE SHOVEL THEIR SNOW INTO THE STREETS?!


chemicaldave

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Jan 4 2013 at 10:25pm #

Because they know they won’t get fined for it.


cdavey

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Jan 4 2013 at 11:49pm #

In some cases, they may not have any yard space or other place to put it. In others, they are too damn lazy and self absorbed in their personal me bubble to think about anyone else but themselves.


schmenjamin

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Jan 5 2013 at 5:21pm #

So both walkways on the 40SB have been frozen over since last week and I’m getting a little impatient. Filed an online 311 but it’s looking like it will still be a mess Monday.

Has anyone ever taken the lane on the 40SB? Tricky part is, I travel outbound (to Millvale) in the AM, so I’d have to take the lone outbound lane, so cars won’t be able to pass. Is this a terrible idea?


StuInMcCandless

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Jan 5 2013 at 5:47pm #

The Great Heussy Avenue Snowpile, Buffalo NY, February 1977.

If you want to put the snow in your yard so you can park the car in front on a city street, then Hell be damned, it can be done.

This pile was about 12 feet high at its greatest.

I wish I had had the forethought to take a picture of the rather unremarkable parking space in front of the house.

Remember, there was about a level-five-foot depth of snow in this part of Buffalo, with drifts to 15-20 feet, after the Blizzard of ’77.

Heusey St, Buffalo NY, 2/1977

If you look at that spot on the map, you will see how close together the houses are, just like many Pittsburgh neighborhoods.


stefb

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Jan 6 2013 at 1:45pm #

So the temps are to climb into the 50s this week! Snow and ice should melt. How is panther hollow right now? I was considering going through there tomorrow.

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