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Woman on bike markings on Negley

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neilmd

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Jun 13 2014 at 7:19am #

And for breakfast, thread flambé …

Cool down everybody.

(presumably) straight white guy with a ponytail (but my ponytail isn’t perky – it’s the perky ponytail that gender types the image. Never could perk my tail… I’ll stop there)


richierich

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Jun 13 2014 at 12:27pm #

” (but my ponytail isn’t perky – it’s the perky ponytail that gender types the image. Never could perk my tail… I’ll stop there)”

It helps to flip your head upside-down and get the tail up towards the top of your head.

Unfortunately those perky tails don’t fit under a helmet, so Cheryl must be a head-baring risk taker…


HiddenVariable

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Jun 13 2014 at 12:49pm #

Confusion is not safe.

confusion is sex.

or perhaps confusion is next?


steevo

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Jun 14 2014 at 9:01am #

Pierce where did I say ” Hey, we don’t care if your gender isn’t included in anything, fuck you.” ? Please show me how you got to that conclusion. What I said was “I cant imagine arguing over the
gender of a drawing on the cement.” You can call it whatever gender you want, but when you start to question what other
people call it, you are doing some weird dictating of the conversation.

I know somebody who was shot while riding a bike in East Lib…. SO

The vegan thread I think that I just said that people like you make me
embarrassed to say that I am vegetarian. Similar to this thread you
came in and dictated how the thread was ran. Similar to this thread, you
took away people’s ability to have input because you were assuming
that they identify as straight white men or whatever.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe

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Jun 14 2014 at 9:26am #

So, wait.

The markings on Negley are guerrilla?

That’s awesome.

But wait – people are bent over the gender of the markings?

Really?


Pierce

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Jun 14 2014 at 7:08pm #

Different reading of the same sentence. You said: “Are you people seriously arguing over the gender of an outline of a person that has a ponytail and boobs? Imagine having real problems.” You clarified with “I can’t imagine arguing over what the particular gender of this outline is.” relevent

I took the initial statement as “having a conversation about what genders are represented in society isn’t a conversation worth having and gender binaries isn’t a *real* problem” So you were more reading into what gender that particular stencil was and I was thinking about the broader conversation and both elements preceded your post in the thread.

Rereading the thread again, people weren’t even arguing over the gender of the stencil. They were simply pointing out that if some attributes typically attributed to women are there, it doesn’t necessarily mean the person depicted is a woman. If you don’t value people pointing out exceptions to gender stereotypes, okay, sorry, you chose/had to read two posts of it.

*I* don’t see the value of injecting oneself in a conversation and saying “I don’t see the value of this, imagine having real problems.” Like fuck, there are an infinite number of issues, interests and problems I don’t value or understand. So what? To quote Colin, (kind of), go piss in your own cheerios.

Granted, my statement of “Hey, we don’t care if your gender isn’t included in anything, fuck you.” is a typical case of Pierce drastic hyperbole, which a wiser man wouldn’t have said or would have asked for clarification before jumping to conclusions on what your position is. Sorry.

I also don’t want to exclude anybody from commenting, which is why I said *presumably* trait x,y,z. I can be more cautious with that, and would have for someone lesser known. Eh, actually, damn it, Pierce is wrong again, those traits aren’t particularly relevant. I could argue with your post without even mentioning those traits, like i just did. So yeah, I don’t need to bring them into the conversation either. Sorry for that too.


neilmd

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Jun 14 2014 at 8:27pm #

and for desert. thread reflambé.

dump water bottles of ice water on heads. chill. brilliant day. got a nice 70 mi in and no perky cheryls. pity.


stefb

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Jun 14 2014 at 8:55pm #

Pierce, you have always been nice and pleasant to converse with and ride with in person, but shut up.

Come on, people. Instead of spending energy on focusing on the gender of road markings, get more ladies into cycling. More and more women are showing up than before, but there are still rides I do where I am the only woman in a group of 15-20 men.


quizbot

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Jun 15 2014 at 12:08am #


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AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe

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Jun 15 2014 at 8:29pm #

@quizbot: obviously that last sign is “Warning: Hippies with Loose Belt Crossing”, right?


quizbot

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Jun 16 2014 at 7:43am #

The artist leaves interpretation of the work to the viewer.


ericf

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Jul 2 2014 at 8:07am #

I have revised my opinion of “cheryls”, After looking at the rest of the bicycle related markings around the city, these ones are no more random than others. As a matter of fact, I quite like them, and I am willing to chip in some dough for paint. We need to start a guerilla fund.

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