In my experience, the fence isn’t as usual as it would seem. I tend to strap bags to my CETMA, and most of the time, the bags don’t fit nicely within the fence. If you have a bag that does fit nicely, the fence is handy for keeping stuff in place when strapping it down, but it does limit the size of what you can carry on the rack.
I’ve yet to try to put my CETMA-equipped bike on a PAT rack, though.
@dmtroyer – no, “Sold!” was just for the kickstand… baby steps
But – I’m pretty well decided on the disc trucker at this point, it would be sold if they were just willing to sell one to me.
I think I’m probably going to have to forgo the front rack though, due to the bus issue. Oh well.
This front rack would work on the bus. I’ve been coveting it due to the slot for the U Lock, but I think it is way overpriced!
 I guess technically its more of a basket than a rack, but I like how the thick tubes could match the look of a rear rack.
The rack isn’t wider than your handlebars and the arm that fits over the wheel doesn’t seem to need to be all the way to the fork crown. I’ve been using the racks with my wire basket and rack just fine.
I’ve got Soma rack sitting in my office right now. Tried installing it on my main commuter, no dice. Hooded dropouts, disc brakes, single eyelets, dynamo hub, etc.
I’ve never put my bike on the bus to know if this would or would not work with the racks. I can take a picture if that helps (assuming I find the right combination of hub and fork in my basement to make it work).
I love your bike @rsprake! What kind of front basket is that? I think I’ve passed you on Reynolds a few times – I’ll shout a hello next time.
It’s a Wald basket strapped to a Nitto rack that is similar to this. I think that’s why I can easily get it on to the bus, there are no struts that travel the length of the fork.
@pseudocris I’ve been coveting it due to the slot for the U Lock
That is a really nice thing. I like having the U-lock handy, because I like to bring my U-lock out and fool with it if I feel there are too many miscreants in my immediate region.
I have a Surly “Nice RAck” on the front of my main bike and it does make it hard to put it on a bus.
The only problem with u-lock slots like that is noise. I couldn’t stand the rattling, took 2 velcro straps to quiet it down, negating the easy access advantage.
The back pocket is hard to beat if you think you might need to deploy your u lock for security reasons not related to locking your bike.
I thought today would be the day this saga finally came to an end, but then Chris sold the Disc Trucker he had right before I got there anyone here buy it?
But, I think he also convinced me that a 58 (which is what it was, and also my the size of my cross-check) is too small. They have a non-disc 60 that I took for a ride – at first I was convinced it was too big but now I’m wondering if I could even go 62. They have a disc 62 but it’s not built so I’m going to go check it out when it is. To prevent any further “misunderstandings” I already bought it – with the stipulation that i can order a 60 if it doesn’t fit.
BTW, $100 premium for the disc version if anyone is curious.
I think I might swap the stock straight drop bars for flared bars like bell laps, and I’ll definitely swap the tires for randonneurs, otherwise the stock build looks pretty good. Its more different from the cross-check than I expected though – on the hoods I’m way more upright, although I’m not sure how much of that is a real geometry difference and how much is just because of the larger frame.
Do they have any more on the floor currently? I am going to have to go check them out. I am considering that or a Civia Bryant to do a parts swap from my LHT.
I wonder if the fork of a disc LHT could go into a regular LHT.
@rsprake – I think they only have the 62 disc in the shop, Chris said they’re going to put it together on Monday. If it fits me I’m bringing it home but I’d be happy to let you see it.
@Pierce – geometry numbers are identical on the surly site so I bet it would work, except it doesn’t look like they sell the fork separately yet.
Well I bought the 62, just waiting for them to swap some parts and I’ll send a pic. Man those discs work nice – any doubts about whether this was worth doing is gone. Im going to give the straight drops a chance, I can always swap later.
They’re supposed to be getting a 60 in tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone for the advice, if anyone wants to take it for a ride sometime let me know.
haha, this is the story that just refuses to end… i went back to pick up the bike but the mechanic convinced me 62 was just too big based on how close the seat was to the frame. So, now the 62 is up for sale and the 60 is going to be mine. but i’m sure it won’t be that simple, somehow.
Buy them both and ride them every oter day for awhile until your’re absolutely sure, just in case.
OK, kickstand is giving me grief. The problem is, as soon as I put any weight on the rack (even a mostly empty pannier), the back wheel goes down and the front wheel comes up. Then the front wheel flops to one side, and it doesn’t take much to tip the bike over in that direction – a little gust of wind did it tonight…
Apparently this is a well known issue, you can buy a thing that flicks down to hold the front wheel but it won’t work with fenders. Some people use a bungee which is getting into PITA territory. Argh.
Otherwise, had a fun decaf ride tonight, I love the extra gear range because I hate having to stand up and crank… the gaps are certainly much larger as a result but I think it’s a worthwhile tradeoff.
I wonder if you could shorten the kickstand so the wheels are level when engaged
Pretty bike but please get rid of those spoke reflectors. Ewwwwww
Thanks dan, I hadn’t seen that and I’d be happy to try it out.
Pierce, they did shorten it already but I think it could use some more… not sure if it would be stable with both wheels on the ground though.
The spoke relectors don’t bug me – they serve a purpose and they’re legally required (actually they should be amber). I’ve been bugging Nick to make some fiks that will work with these rims, maybe when I get those I’ll ditch them.
Doing some experiments in my garage, the bike is *way* more stable with the front wheel on the ground (even if I keep the front wheel straight). So maybe putting a basket/rack on there is the right answer.
I’ll also hack off some more kickstand, although that does bring up the point that I plan to put on studded tires for the winter so I should be careful not to make it too short.
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