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stefb
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Yeah I was referring to the one melange mentions.. It goes under the elevated lit pedestrian walkway (with changing colors) that will eventually drop you at Forbes near Morewood.


quizbot
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The rest of the 31st Street Bridge to close Monday

Now it will REALLY be closed. The 31st Street Bridge, already off-limits to Route 28 traffic, will be closed to everyone, including pedestrians, starting at about 6 a.m. on Monday.

This will allow removal and replacement of the four bridge sections closest to Route 28. Those weren’t part of the 2007 rehabilitation of the rest of the bridge; PennDOT knew that it would be tearing out and replacing them as part of the Route 28 megaproject, which will create a grade-separated interchange allowing through traffic on Route 28 to go by without waiting at a traffic signal.

The closure to Lawrenceville traffic will continue into late December. The closure to Route 28 traffic will continue until late 2013. Traffic headed to Washington’s Landing from Lawrenceville will be detoured using the 16th Street Bridge to River Avenue.

Inbound Route 28 will be restricted to a single lane from 8 p.m. today (Friday) to 8 a.m. Saturday between the former Millvale Industrial Park location and the East Ohio Street exit. The right lane will be closed. Crews will continue installing caissons for retaining wall construction.

PennDOT has changed the start dates for two new restrictions associated with the Veterans Bridge-Interstate 579 rehab project. Closure of the ramp from southbound Route 28 to the southbound Veterans Bridge is now scheduled for 8 p.m. July 11. It will stay closed around the clock through late July. Southbound lane restrictions on the bridge will begin at the same time, with two narrow lanes open for much of the day but only a single narrow lane from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. daily. Single-lane traffic may be moved up to 4 p.m. some days — PennDOT will announce this in advance.

CITY OF PITTSBURGH MILLING AND PAVING SCHEDULE FOR NEXT WEEK:

MILLING

Monday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• Spring Way from 16th St to 30th St

Tuesday, from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• Mountain St from Jonquil St to Parkwood St

Thursday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• W Woodford Ave from Brownsville Rd to Plateau St

Friday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• Colescott from Noblestown to Shadyhill

PAVING

Monday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• Rutherford St from Hampshire St to Bayonne St

• Goldstrom Ave from Rutherford Ave to Banksville Rd

Tuesday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• Spring Way from 16th St to 30th St

Thursday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• Spring Way from 16th St to 30th St

Friday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

• W Woodford Ave from Brownsville Rd to Plateau St

• Mountain St from Jonquil St to Parkwood St


Erica
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yeah, spring way is definitely milled.


salty
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that sucks, car-free (almost) 31SB was a great place to ride and I didn’t know it was going away. At least I managed not one but two farewell rides in the past week, even if I didn’t know it at the time.


rsprake
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…create a grade-separated interchange allowing through traffic on Route 28 to go by without waiting at a traffic signal.

31st Street bridge is going to be a real bummer.


ejwme
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Does this mean 31st st bridge will be like Highland Park Bridge now, with it’s essential highway onramp status? Or will they keep it semi-sane, like RD Flemming?


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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From the Google machine: “Crews will remove and replace the last four spans on the north end of bridge necessary to create a new grade-separated interchange with Route 28 and Rialto Street. These four spans were not rehabilitated as part of the 31st Street Bridge project completed in 2007 in anticipation of the future improvements on Route 28.”

What I think that means – and how it appears, is there will be ramps to Rt. 28 (which nobody is going to ride on a bike anyway… I think…), and then a grade-separated connection (either below or above, I’m not sure) to Rialto Street, so that Rt. 28 flows overhead without a traffic light.


Steven
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Route 28’s new grade-separated through route will be below the various intersections. There are a bunch of artists’ renderings in the big Project Presentation PDF on this page.

It looks like there will still be traffic lights at the north end of the bridge, which might help limit speeds.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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Looking at the drawing, It appears to me that the light at the end of the bridge is to control traffic between the bridge and Rialto Street. I think the intention of the project is to eliminate lights on 28 itself.


Marko82
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Looking at those drawings, how does a pedestrian navigate the north end of the bridge? There are currently two sidewalks on the bridge, but nothing in that huge intersection. Oh and I love the 3 foot sidewalk along 28 in the one drawing – how generious!


HiddenVariable
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my guess from the drawings is that the light that looks like it’s in the middle of 28 is redundant. they both operate on the same cycle, and this way the light at river isn’t so far away from rialto. i imagine this working much like the 40th street interchange, except with a street on the north side of the river to accommodate as well.

also: i’m glad they’re not just closing rialto.


rsprake
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So they are adding another bridge to the stock that we can’t currently maintain? Also, too bad the sidewalk on the 31st Street Bridge isn’t as wide in the rendering as well. It’s barely wide enough for a bike and jogger to safely squeeze passed each other.


ieverhart
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I guess I knew the low-traffic version of this bridge was not a long-term reality, but is the upshot here that getting from the bridge down to the island (aka getting from Lawrenceville to the North Side Trail) is about to be “enhanced” the same way that the access from Bates Street to the Jail Trail was “enhanced”?

It looks like there will still be traffic lights at the north end of the bridge, which might help limit speeds.

Sadly, I don’t think that is a realistic prospect. It’s the better part of a mile between the lights, and given my daily experience on Fifth Avenue, that is way more than enough space for drivers to go too fast.


Steven
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Oh and I love the 3 foot sidewalk along 28 in the one drawing – how generious!

I didn’t spot any 3 foot sidewalk, but the drawings show a 5 foot sidewalk on page 10, along the NW edge of Route 28. I think that’s wider than the existing sidewalk at that spot.

getting from the bridge down to the island (aka getting from Lawrenceville to the North Side Trail) is about to be “enhanced” the same way that the access from Bates Street to the Jail Trail was “enhanced”?

I guess the official way to do that from a traffic lane will be to make a left onto River Street at the end of the bridge. If there’s some possibility for an alternative and unofficial path, the artist’s renderings aren’t detailed enough to show it. (What’s the current unofficial route that you’re worried about losing? Make a right onto the shoulder of Route 28, then go down the slope and over the railroad tracks to the trail?)

Sadly, I don’t think that is a realistic prospect.

My point was that northbound drivers would be faced with the same traffic light they got before construction started, so perhaps speeds on the bridge would also be comparable to pre-construction speeds. In other words, I don’t see why the Route 28 project would lead to traffic on the bridge being any faster than it was before the project started. This was in response to ejwme’s “Does this mean 31st st bridge will be like Highland Park Bridge now, with it’s essential highway onramp status?”


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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@Steven: there are going to be NO lights on 28 N or 28 S at either the 31st or 40th Street Bridges. None. Zero. Nada. The free passage of traffic past those bridges is the whole reason for the grade separation ramps, and the “bridge over” at the 31st Street Bridge to Rialto Street: to allow traffic to pass through without lights.

Edit: Mea culpa, and apologies, Steven. I misread your note. You were referring to BRIDGE traffic, not Rt. 28 traffic. Oops. Agreed. Looks like bridge traffic would be essentially unchanged relative to pre-construction conditions.


StuInMcCandless
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I guess now we get to see whether Mt Yinzmore survives or not.


ieverhart
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What’s the current unofficial route that you’re worried about losing?

No unofficial route (in either case; there was a city-sponsored sign indicating access to the trail from Bates) but the parallel I had in mind was that a highly useful bike route is about to be made a lot less appealing in the name of facilitating access to and from a freeway.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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@ieverhart: I’m not sure the access (I assume you mean from 31st Bridge to River Road) will be any different than it was pre-construction. There was/will be a light at the end of the bridge, there was/will be a light at the end of the on-ramps from 28.

So how is it less appealing?


cburch
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the only difference will be for people already on 28. for everyone else it will be the same as before this whole thing started.


rsprake
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So there will be a light at river ave?


Steven
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Looks like it. You can see the pole for it in the artist’s rendering I linked to.

I think cburch has it right. They’re keeping the previous arrangement of traffic lights, and just adding through lanes on Route 28 that bypass the lights.

I imagine moving most of the traffic away from the traffic lights will result in different timing for the lights, but I’m still not seeing how this is worse for cyclists (except compared to the bridge-half-closed state we’ve been enjoying).


salty
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Don’t worry, if there is a way to make it worse for cyclists I have confidence they will not rest until they’ve accomplished it.


ieverhart
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So how is it less appealing?

In addition to losing the light-traffic reality of construction (which is not really a fair starting point for an apples-to-apples comparison), the bridge is now totally closed for a project that doesn’t give any benefits to cyclists, and the induced traffic that always tends to result from these projects, there is always Todd’s residual decline in quality.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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Huh-wha?


Impala26
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So, are we safe to assume that bikes and pedestrians cannot use sidewalks to get between Rialto Street and the 31st Street Bridge? I.e. exactly the same situation we had prior to all this mess?

Or is there some sort of new crosswalk I missed in the design blueprints? If not, then this project fails to help bikes and pedestrians in the vicinity of the bridge one iota.

I mean I can’t speak for the residents of Troy Hill, but I guess there was never terribly too many folks willing to trek up/down Rialto Street following (or preceding) crossing the river. We should be looking at making BETTER ped/bike connections, not maintaining the status quo or making situations WORSE.

*le sigh*


Impala26
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*My apologies for the double-post, must’ve gotten a bit too excited.*


cburch
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It should be easier when done as 28 will pass under the bridge instead of across it. It won’t be much better, but it should be at least a slight improvement over the pre-construction version.


stefb
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Will the bottom of Rialto be fixed in time for the dirty dozen? That is the bigger question.


Steven
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So, are we safe to assume that bikes and pedestrians cannot use sidewalks to get between Rialto Street and the 31st Street Bridge?

The artist’s rendering shows crosswalks from the downstream side of the bridge all the way to a sidewalk running on the NW side of Route 28 in that area. The sidewalk leads NE to Rialto Street and SW to some buildings, and it’s five feet wide in at least one spot. There are tiny pedestrians on it, one on the portion to Rialto. FWIW.


Erica
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Someone just came into The Big Idea to let us know that they’re milling Liberty in Bloomfield (I’m assuming it’s the part that didn’t get done last year) on Monday and Tuesday. Didn’t say when it would be repaved, just that it would.

I asked how soon the bike lanes would be repainted, and he said, “Oh, they’ll be repainted.”


HiddenVariable
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liberty is milled, yay! i’ve been waiting for this moment for nearly a decade now.


Lou M.
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What part of Liberty? May have to avoid this today.


HiddenVariable
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from i-want-to-say cedarville to baum. it’s not bad, really, just a bit slower, especially outbound. milled roads act as de facto traffic calming, which is nice.


dmtroyer
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hmm, as much fun as it is to pass loads of backed up traffic going up the hill on liberty, I’ll probably do the jail trail today.


ejwme
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Not sure if this will be legible, but I got county road maintenance for the week:

PennDOT Allegheny County Maintenance Schedule Aug. 13-17

PennDOT District 11 is announcing the weekly maintenance schedule for Allegheny County, Aug. 13-17.

All activities are weather permitting. Lane closures and restrictions should be expected in work areas. Motorists are urged to call 1-800 FIX ROAD to report roadway concerns on state routes and interstates. Litter and debris removal and pothole patching will occur in various areas as needed.

Allegheny County Schedule

Work Activity

Route

Local Name

Municipality

From

To

Shoulder Cutting

3014

Piney Fork Road

South Park, Jefferson Hills

Brownsville Road Extension

Gill Hall Road

3013

Brownsville Road Extension

South Park

Washington County

Wallace Road

3015

Snowden Road

South Park, Jefferson Hills

Washington County

Cochran Mill Road

3016

Single Track Road

South Park

Piney Fork Road

Snowden Road

3017

Gill Hall Road

Jefferson Hills

Cochran Mills

Washington County

Pipe/Inlet Cleaning

I-376

Various

Route 22

Beaver County

837

Dravosburg Road

Duquesne

Center Street

North Second Street

Inlet Repair

2076

Old Leechburg Road

Plum

Unity-Center Road

New Texas Road

Patching

3053

Seabright Road

North Fayette

North Branch Road

Old Steubenville Pike

3059

North Road

North Fayette

Noblestown-Steubenville Road

North Branch Road

4067

East Hardies Road

Hampton

Route 8

Middle Road

2058

Verona Road

Penn Hills

Frankstown Road

Saltsburg Road

I-376

Parkway East/Central

Various

Pennsylvania Turnpike

Fort Pitt Bridge

Litter Removal

I-79

Various

Washington County

Warrendale

I-279

Parkway North

Various

City of Pittsburgh

I-79

51

Hayden Boulevard

Forward, Elizabeth, Jefferson Hills

Airport Road

Old Clairton Road

28

Various

Highland Park Bridge

Butler County

22

North Fayette

Washington County

Tonidale

Crack Sealing

4068

Bakerstown Road, Warrendale Road

Pine, Richland

Route 19

Route 8

Sweeping

837

River Road

Jefferson Hills

Station Street

Lebanon Road

Drainage

1020

Russellton-Dorseyville Road

West Deer

Saxonburg Boulevard

Rich Hill Road


ejwme
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ejwme
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the Millvale trail will be exciting Thursday as well. Anybody know if they will be removing the beams from the back channel? Or are they just dumping them?

Details:

31st Street Bridge Back Channel Beam Removal Next Thursday in Pittsburgh

PennDOT District 11 is announcing work remove beams from the back channel of the 31st Street Bridge over the Allegheny River in the City of Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, will occur next Thursday Aug. 16, weather permitting.

The removal of the final two outside steel beams will occur between approximately 10-11 a.m. Thursday. For safety precautions, traffic in both directions on Route 28 and other roadways near the 31st Street Bridge will be stopped for approximately 15 minutes while the removal occurs. Crews will use demolition techniques to drop the beams into the back channel of the river.

Most sections of the final four spans of the 31st Street Bridge have already been removed. The work is necessary to create a new grade-separated interchange with Route 28, 31st Street and Rialto Street. These four spans were not rehabilitated as part of the 31st Street Bridge project completed in 2007 in anticipation of the future improvements on Route 28.

Motorists should expect possible stop conditions and delays.

The $36.4 million fourth phase of Route 28 improvements include: widening and reconstruction to provide a new grade-separated interchange at the 31st Street Bridge Intersection; roadway reconstruction; new median barrier and signal installation; replacing a section of the 31st Street Bridge; modifications to the River Avenue Viaduct; sidewalk and wall construction; demolition; drainage; utility relocations; highway and sign lighting; sign structures; ITS (Intelligent Transportation System) facilities, and other improvements between the Chestnut Street overpass and the 40th Street Bridge. The prime contractor is the Trumbull Corporation of Pittsburgh.


edmonds59
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“…ITS (Intelligent Transportation System) facilities…”

They’re putting in bike facilities!?! :/

Snark.


ejwme
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I think the ITS is the thing that helps the lights turn when traffic needs them to. I hope it applies to bikes on roads where they’re permitted. So… maybe?

I just don’t want the kayak people to have to carry their boats over rusty beams blocking the channel. It’s super shallow back there some days.

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