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Frame Buying

I'm thinking of buying a touring frame for a commuter, but I'm wondering what to consider when purchasing a frame Like I thought the standard was a Surly Long Haul Trucker, but I see people around here buying All City and Soma, etc, etc. What's the difference? What's the difference between a LHT frame and like a Nashbar frame?
2014-04-16 17:43:25
I think LHT has an extra long chain stay for foot/pannier clearance & a longer top tube.
2014-04-16 19:59:46
The biggest negative with the LHT is for the height-challenged, as the 54cm version and below uses a 26" wheel while the larger versions use a 700c wheel. They do this for the sake of toe clearance because of the geometry that they use. Any dedicated touring bike will tend to have longer chain stays and a longer top tube (Trek 520, Soma Saga, LHT, etc.). That said, the All-City (Space Horse) is more of a middle-road bike built for commuting and would be closer to a Surly Cross Check or Pacer (geometry wise). Other bikes built along the same lines as the Space Horse would be a Jamis Bossanova, or maybe a Kona Rove (which shares the frame with the Kona Sutra touring, but is built up as more of a cross/gravel bike). There are a bunch more examples, but that is what comes to mind. You might find this useful: As far as a nashbar vs a LHT, I'd have to pull up the sites and compare numbers... might do that later. Generally speaking, besides geometry, a frame is a frame. Pay more for lighter weight tubes, frame warranty, paint&finish.
2014-04-16 21:26:05
@Pierce, Don't forget the option of going down to Thick, checking out/riding a few built-up models in which you're interested, then ordering the bare frame through them.
2014-04-17 06:49:43