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Noseless Bike Seats?

Anyone used one of these before? Any recommendations on which are better than others? I'm interested in having kids one day...


brettw
2009-11-12 17:08:48

I have an Adamo Typhoon and am quite pleased.


http://www.ismseat.com/products_typhoon.htm


For a long time, I had a number of seats that had the center cut out of them. They were all more comfortable than the traditional seats I had before that but I would still have occasional circulation issues. The Typhoon isn't perfect in that respect and I still have the occasional issue but that has more to do with the way that I sit. I'll simply pay attention, shift my posture and solve the problem. After riding with the Typhoon for a few weeks, I went back to my previous seat and couldn't stand it. I had completely adapted to not having the horn pressing against my privates.


Now, if I could only find the right gloves/grips to solve those circulation issues.


kordite
2009-11-12 18:32:18

Kordite posts one of the few good saddles out there.


An awful lot of it comes down to proper bike fit though. That's the first place to start, for sure.


Also, there's a reason saddles have noses. You steer with the nose using your thighs when you ride no handed (or when riding off the saddle as you would off road). So think about your riding demands as well before you get one of those.


mayhew
2009-11-12 19:04:21

I tried a seat that was really just two pads for my "sit bones". Because it lacked that nose, I hated it and kept sliding off. The Adamo seats have a little bit of a nose and while I never ride no-handed (never made the effort to learn), when I want a little more stability I'll simply rise up a little bit, slide back a touch and have enough nose of the seat to hold on to with my thighs.


kordite
2009-11-12 19:33:10

Here's everthing you wanted to know about noseless saddles, NIOSH, tinfoil helmets - and much MUCH more!


About six months ago there was a thread on here with a paper from NIOSH, extolling the virtues of noseless saddles.


http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/wp-solutions/2009-131/pdfs/2009-131.pdf


There was a certain amount of pubescent snickering here about it.


Could you imagine the government scientist prepping the area and installing the sensors!?


The next day, I got an email from a woman who was interested in coming to visit 1me. It was the first email I got from her work account - NIOSH.


We actually began some of the ...um ... "experiments" mentioned. The government work here was very thorough, indeed. She made the suggestion that NIOSH could hire cheerleaders to help with this valuable research.


I was starting to train for a GAP DC round trip so I looked into noseless. One thing to go 20 miles a week and another thing to go 660 in two weeks.


Bob at IC bikes refused to order a noseless for me. Considering what QBP had available at that point, that was wise. Through Freeride, I ordered an IMS touring saddle, because it seemed the best in the QBP catelog:


http://bikehacks.com/nose-less-bike-seat-caught-in-the-wild/


Those seats are actually have high quality materials and great workmanship. Instead of a nose, it has what amounts to two spines sticking into your thighs just below your buttocks. When I first used it to go two miles to work, I considered walking home.


I met the NIOSH woman at a park near a hospital once about 15 miles from town. She asked why I had not used th noseless. If I *had*, we could have met at the hospital next to the park.


I sincerely belive that a distance of 30 miles with this saddle could draw blood. 4 miles made for chafed spots.


If you are interested in this particular saddle, I will not only GIVE it to you, for free, but give you a beer for coming by and picking it up.


Really. Just report back on how it worked for you. And then give it away to someone else, along with TWO beers.


Just now, I had a hard time finding a pic of this type of on the internet, so possibly they have stopped making them.


The whole thing reminds me of a marketing company I'll start one of these days.


BAD IDEAS®

New Ideas for a Nuclear Age!

Motto: "It seemed like a good idea at the time."


The next week at work, I got a call from a guy at NIOSH - an agency that had never before shown an interest in our registry (on a specific pharmacogenetic condition). He had some questions for me about my work and he was from the same office as my new friend, who had just finished gong through a divorce, the details of which I did not know - except that it was "messy."


Before calling back, I made the discouraging discovery that they do NOT market tin-foil lined bicycle shorts.


"Protect YOUR parts from government conspiracies." Another New! Idea!


(He was legit though, and perfectly normal on the phone, with good questions. Whereas, I was cagey and paranoid.)


On the DC trip, the first night, I stayed at the Connellesville motel accross from Walmart (another new idea for the nuclear age!). They had a noseless that looked roughly like this:


http://www.amazon.com/Ergo-Endurance-Bicycle-Noseless-Black-Vinyl/dp/B000AOC3ZG


I did not get rid of my old saddle, but tried to use the noseless one for a few hours ever day.


I did not find it comfortable and it slowed me down considerably. On the other hand, using it for bit each day, made my bits feel a little better at the end of the day. Still, by the end, I jsut used my regular saddle.


The problem seems to me that if you don't have a nose that keeps you from sliding forward and down, then when you are sitting on is really the start of your thighs. I had to lower the seat way down to be able to sit on it and pedal at the same time.


Maybe a fews ways around it:

1) I wsa using platform pedals. Maybe with clipless or toe clips and sliding forward vs support wouldn't be as much of an issue. I'm probably going to give this a try sometime.


2) I met a guy with a saddle like this:


http://www.amazon.com/Hobson-Easyseat-Ergonomical-Saddle-Black/dp/B000GBK4Z4/ref=pd_sim_sg_2


or this:

http://www.bicycleseats.org/easyseat-bicycle-seat.htm?source=google


I forget his name, but he's 50 or so y.o and works at REI. Maybe posts here? He seemed happy with his seat. I'm not sure if each side of that seat adjusts indivually. If I recall correctly, he used clipless.


3) Half-bent. Crank forward bikes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH3_u4QLrQg


These young women obviously like their bikes very much.


I'm pretty sure my next bike will be a crank forward.


QUESTION: Does anyone know of a crank forward long-bike? Would take care of my cargo needs and help with the front-back weight load balance, too.


4) Follow the advice of Darth Reddan:


"Luke ... (rasp, rasp) ... I'm your father ... Luke ... Come on over to ... the BENT side ... Feel the power of ... the 'bent side."


Hope this helps.


mick
2009-11-12 19:42:59

How is it for fast descents?


lyle
2009-11-12 19:45:52

Mick:

http://www.ransbikes.com/Hammertruck.htm


At least aesthetically, I like that the crank forward bikes look more cruiserly and less dadly than most recumbents. They also look short enough to be manageable riding around and locking up in the city.


alankhg
2009-11-12 21:54:33

Someone should have warned me about the graphic nature of the Typhoon saddle before I clicked.


bradq
2009-11-12 22:07:25

heehee. brad, i have no idea what you were talking about until i clicked the video featuring the spandex.. uhhh.. caboose.


rachel_ding
2009-11-12 22:26:31

Jeepers, a whole new meaning for the term "banana seat".


edmonds59
2009-11-12 22:58:50



http://www.ransbikes.com/Hammertruck.htm


At least aesthetically, I like that the crank forward bikes look more cruiserly and less dadly than most recumbents. They also look short enough to be manageable riding around and locking up in the city.


Alan,


Thanks! That is exactly what I have in mind.


I like that your head is high enough on crank forward bikes to see what's going on in traffic. And actually, I don't think I wast to get revolutionarily different from what I rode as a kid.


Mick


mick
2009-11-13 00:34:51

Could somebody please spell out what was so graphic about the typhoon video? Maybe provide a timestamp? I must have missed it.


lyle
2009-11-13 05:04:42

When I read the title of the post, I was hoping to find something about saddles like the Selle SMP line (http://www.sellesmp.com/en/default.htm ). Does anyone here have any experience with those? I'm sure I could find plenty if I searched, so feel free to shut down this threadjack...


jkoutrouba
2009-11-13 12:23:04

The SMPs are supposed to be really nice. But they are mad money, so I only know two people who have tried them.


mayhew
2009-11-13 12:48:02