BIKEPGH MESSAGE BOARD ARCHIVE

Can't see the photo. I am happy to know these now exist. I've offered to take a small group of co-workers up that road later today.

hmmm. here's a link. https://goo.gl/photos/15JfVJzQa76FHqvw8

> "The climbing lane extends to about Castleman St." Had to look this one up--Castleman is in Shadyside. Do you mean Lake (the road behind Highland Park), Bunker Hill (the front of HP), or something else...?

Now that I've used it both up and downhill, I can offer an informed opinion. I see no reason for the lane on the downhill side. If anything, it's more liability than asset if you need to make a left at the bottom, since it forces you to make a lane change, potentially tangling with cars at speed. On the uphill side, I don't see them as any great benefit, either. It was already a wide lane, one of those rare places where cars and bikes could easily co-exist in the same wide space. Now what we have instead is designated slots for each mode, but cyclists are relegated to the road edge with branches and gravel and at least one demonstrably bad wheel eating drain grate, while cars still have a full, 12-foot lane they can scream up at 45 mph, and just never mind the four-foot rule.

Love the bike lanes. Great job here. I have ridden up through there countless times and always wanted a white line, so the road wasn't a free for all and the corrected that. Now at least there are some boundaries. I didn't use the downhill lane because there was no cars behind me, but I would use it if there were. As far as merging at the bottom, I have a mirror and can time a merge without any issues, so it doesn't bother me. Great to see this bike lane finally there.

by castleman i meant bunkerhill

i always associate that part of highland park with castles because of the king estate

So I agree with stu here mostly. The only reason at all I can say the white line is better than nothing currently is because, as mentioned elsewhere, there were three "seams" in the road before lines were painted, and drivers, for whatever reason, stayed to the right of the right-most seam, meaning that they drove to the right more, therefore buzzing cyclists more. Now that there is paint, you can see more clearly that no drivers can stay in their fucking lanes. 1 out of 30 cars that passed me today was able to stay in the lane, while everyone else went half way into the "bike lanes" going around bends. They would probably be able to stay in their lanes if they were going 25, as posted, and not 35-40. Amazing that people were following the seams in the road, but they can't follow paint. I was actually going to warn people that it is safer to ride in the debris around corners.

I liked using it uphill, just took the regular lane downhill. Am worried about debris downhill too. Reminds me of the bike lane on Forbes, where I also often take the lane