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Tag-o-Rama 3

This game is so popular that the Tag-o-rama 1 and Tag-o-rama 2 threads weren't working right for some people, so it's time for thread #3! The rules are easy (although wordy, it is not hard to play)... #1 - Find the tag and get a picture of your bike in the same location (as best as possible). The first person to post a found tag gets to place the next tag. If you get a tag, but somebody else posts their picture first, you lose – you’ve been Bruced. #2 - Take the tag to a new location, shoot a photo with your bike in the picture, and post it here. Keep the tag within Pittsburgh city limits and the surrounding neighborhoods. Give a few hints (or a short poem if you're so inclined) so the next person can figure out where the tag is located. Try to place the tags in interesting locations, somewhere historic, etc. Remember, the point of the game is not to make the clues difficult to figure out. It is about riding, not Googling. #2a – After you pick up a Tag, a new tag must be placed within 36 hours. If the new tag is not set within the time limit, the first Bruced posted gets the tag. If no Bruce was claimed, tag will revert to the previous tag, and somebody else will get their chance. If you won’t have the time to drop off a new tag, don’t pick it up to begin with. #2b – This rule is intended to keep the game moving. If the overdue tag is posted before somebody grabs the reverted tag, then the new tag will stand. However, giving the overdue tag-holder a load of crap is highly encouraged. #3 - Tag must be findable – don’t make your tag so obscure that no one will find it. Make sure to let folks know what riding conditions are involved to get to your tag. #4 - File photos are NOT permitted. You may not use a photo taken before the current tag was set to prove you found that tag, nor use a photo taken before you photographed the current tag to set a new tag. #5 – All images of tags that are posted, whether picking up or setting a new tag, MUST include the bike you rode to the tag. If your bike isn’t in the posted image, you don’t have a tag. #6 The bicycle in the picture must get to the tag location under the player’s own pedal-power. #7 – No whining. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . UPLOADING IMAGES How to Post Photos In case you're looking for the photo upload button that was once on this site, sorry it has disappeared. We hope it comes back, but for now, you have to use the instructions in the link above. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Some helpful links for the convenience of new players: 1. View the Tag Map to see all the tags. 2. The Tag-O-Rama spreadsheet, showing who got which tag . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . For those of us who want to know more about the record keeping functions of Tag-o-Rama ... To add a marker to the Google Tag Map, sign in to Google, go to the map, and click the Edit link on the left. Then click the marker icon in the upper middle. Then click where the marker should go. Below are EXAMPLES pics to show you how the game is played.
ted
2013-09-17 20:34:35
Example part 1 (Horatio drops a tag): If you have a History of finding tags, have a Field day and make this one your Goal! Example part 2 (Ted picks up the tag): Goalpost outside the Heinz History Center
ted
2013-09-17 20:45:19
Now the real tag: On the street of ladies I saw this castle true; and if you spring into action a hill awaits you
ted
2013-09-17 20:52:40
good call on a new thread, the other one was a bit large. back to the game....
pbeaver
2013-09-18 09:20:08
Well, I know where it isn't. I wonder how close I was when I took this pic in the drain grates thread.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-18 09:37:12
I'd say you were pretty close.
jonawebb
2013-09-18 13:42:23
This is fascinating! Who built this? How old is it? How long did it take them? I feel compelled to ask Rick Sebak to put this in a WQED special.
rustyred
2013-09-18 14:02:46
@Stu: pretty close!
ted
2013-09-18 14:26:24
@rustyRed, I believe Rick has covered this in one of his shows. I'm not sure which one though, maybe the neighborhood one. I'll have to do some googling...
marko82
2013-09-18 16:16:09
Well, as the rules state, it's about riding, not Googling. I didn't have time to look this morning, just a quick sweep of the street, and nothing jumped out at me. Pawing around on StreetView doesn't give me any great ideas, either, but hey, it's still daylight, so maybe I can give it another whirl, and expand the radius a bit.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-18 16:46:50
@stu, I'm gooling for the Rick connection, not the location. I'm pretty sure I know where this is - but don't plan on picking it up unless everones stumped.
marko82
2013-09-18 16:55:38
I'm all about the Googling.
jonawebb
2013-09-18 17:58:55
Damas St, near Homer St, Spring Hill. Took me a half hour to find this place even after biking up to the steps at Homer & Diana Streets.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-18 18:26:51
Bruced! Btw, location apparently a raccoon nest...
epanastrophe
2013-09-18 19:00:26
Marko82 wrote:Good job Stu! This in fact is in a Rick Sebak piece called “North Side Story” @ 37:20 according to this log http://www.wqed.org/education/pghist/logs/northside.php Unfortunately I couldnt find (free) video.
Wow! Thanks! Just requested the DVD from the library; I don't need much of an excuse to watch a Rick Sebak special.
rustyred
2013-09-18 19:34:44
Nice pickup, Stu! RustyRed, let us know what you discover.
ted
2013-09-18 21:39:50
New tag. Gonna give you a choice here. Bonus Internet points if you get both, but at least get one. Getting the first one can be a bit chancy. The guy who works here in the morning is a mean SOB. Now I just need to learn how to hold a camera steady. Further hint on the second one: The "Full" sign might be the case for cars, but there are other modes of travel which this place accommodates, and there was plenty of space at 9:03 am when I took the picture.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-19 08:45:46
What, is this "get your fellow cyclist killed" now? Is the next tag is gonna be in the lion cage at PPG?
rice-rocket
2013-09-19 09:25:19
Oh man. Eff Interpark.
edmonds59
2013-09-19 09:27:22
so, who wants to join a "park-in" at interpark?
hiddenvariable
2013-09-19 09:37:24
Parking garage at Cherry and Fourth, looking across 3rd ave. Third Ave Parking Garage, near PPG. Surprised no other downtown worker beat me to these. I'll bring my real camera to set the next tag!
ted
2013-09-19 15:32:44
Yay Ted! For the record, I find it interesting that one parking garage has gone out of its way to make life difficult for cyclists, while another has gone out of its way to make life easier for cyclists. I regularly enter the Pgh Parking Auth garage off of 4th Ave, since I usually enter Downtown via 6th St and Market Square. It's a bit of a walk from my office at Forbes and Grant, but much more likely to have a secure lockup than the toaster rack at City-County Bldg. It was really nice to be able to lock my bike to that solid railing behind the taped up sign, when you could still park at the 4th/Cherry garage.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-19 16:45:18
Stu has been setting a lot of tags lately; I bet he could have made a better clue too.
ted
2013-09-20 10:01:17
Man, somebody must want me to get a tag.
edmonds59
2013-09-20 15:47:32
I know exactly where this one is. Good thing for @edmonds59 that I'll be out of town for a couple of days. @pinky and a couple others are fairly close to this one, too.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-20 20:40:23
Mmm, donuts. But I'm out if town, too.
jonawebb
2013-09-21 06:42:06
knew i should've looked at this two days ago. I know exactly where this is as well; shame that today's ride plan has us going south instead of west.
epanastrophe
2013-09-22 07:40:59
Change of plans. Better Maid (Pink House) Donuts, 1178 Steuben, Crafton Heights. Always worth the climb. W/ @fultonco
epanastrophe
2013-09-22 09:25:38
Stu, nothing personal: I just couldn't resist trying to make a pun with Steuben St!
ted
2013-09-22 15:13:29
I'm back, and all I hear is crickets!
jonawebb
2013-09-25 13:16:15
Sorry, been busy; ted reminded me earlier today, but work had internet problems. In fact, I took the picture this weekend, but just forgot to upload... Keeping the sweet-things theme--you can't buy anything here, but one of Pittsburgh's favorite confections is made here.
epanastrophe
2013-09-25 13:34:58
Ted wrote:Nice pickup, Stu! RustyRed, let us know what you discover.
DVD just came in today. The retaining wall was build by a baker in the 1930's and it took him 3 years to build it. Looks pretty good for an 80 year old wall built by someone with no stonemasonry skills!
rustyred
2013-09-26 20:44:45
@bb: could we have another clue, please?
jonawebb
2013-09-27 12:25:38
Smallman street. Fudgie Wudgie with campV
teamdecafweekend
2013-09-28 09:59:51
New Tag w campV Quack, get this quick and make it a 3-tag day. Yeah, I flipped the image.
teamdecafweekend
2013-09-28 10:23:54
I don't open this thread often but I thought someone would use the duck. Too bad I didn't see this before I went down there this afternoon..
stefb
2013-09-28 15:38:28
What's a '3 day tag'?
rustyred
2013-09-28 15:56:50
3-tag-day Three pickups and three drops? of tags in a single day How many times has it happened participants?
sgtjonson
2013-09-28 16:14:30
^ I'm not sure how many times, but I thought this tag would be so easy that it could start a quick turn around.
teamdecafweekend
2013-09-28 16:37:19
#quackPgh Point State Park
jonawebb
2013-09-28 17:28:47
There's still time for a three-tag-day, or a three-day-tag, or maybe a three-dog-tay! If you can find a place Tomorrow, you might race
jonawebb
2013-09-28 18:54:48
Forbes Ave at Frick Park entrance with campV
teamdecafweekend
2013-09-29 10:05:22
New Tag with campV. Landmarks in this image should give it away.
teamdecafweekend
2013-09-29 11:28:46
I'm not even sure this is the same spot as I can't find the right angle or gravestones. The bldg looks close, so does the tall monument at left. Going to keep looking.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-29 16:23:03
Don't go far - look very close!
teamdecafweekend
2013-09-29 16:36:48
...and get your bike in the picture!
teamdecafweekend
2013-09-29 16:38:16
Ah, this is it. Union Dale Cemetery, but on the west side of Brighton Rd. The previous image was on the SE corner of Brighton & Marshall. I also looked in the cemetery on the NE corner.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-29 16:44:21
Awesome find Stu! We were hoping the bridge would be clue enough.
vcampbell
2013-09-29 17:54:48
Way back in Tag 36, almost three years ago, I picked up my first tag in this game, the anchor in Allegheny Center. But it's time to drop anchor again! When you find it, you might say "That's It! ____ _____!", and in so doing, earn some high marks.
stuinmccandless
2013-09-30 01:41:35
Anchors near the Ingot Mold thingy at Station Square.
rustyred
2013-09-30 12:04:21
New Tag! This looks round on the sides and high in the middle, yes?
rustyred
2013-10-01 07:51:28
Branchport Boat Club, North Shore Trail, with a friend from work.
pinky
2013-10-01 11:38:23
The park is quite small just a bench and a space barely enough room to wait for your place. Near a pair of circles, but one is a square. Both are confusing; one will leave you impaired.
pinky
2013-10-01 16:54:07
OK here's another hint... Look at the box, towards the west. The tag is next to the very best neighborhood Italian place very close to my home base.
pinky
2013-10-03 18:56:43
Ah yes, I went right past there a few weeks ago. It's going to be the weekend before I can have a shot at getting out thataway.
stuinmccandless
2013-10-03 20:11:18
Stoltz and Crafton, next to Sarafino's
jonawebb
2013-10-05 08:49:25
Orange plastic So fantastic Riding this sea of cones would Be gymnastic
jonawebb
2013-10-05 10:12:41
HIghmark Stadium with campB, jlaclaire, LindaP, and new tagger, CLaJ
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-05 11:56:04
New Tag Another softball, maybe a 3-tag day? Set with campB
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-05 12:39:01
@Steven - I'm not sure how long it's been since you changed the Tag-O-Rama spreadsheet, but ha!, I like the new categories. I couldn't find a translation for the Russian word though. LEADER BOARD CATEGORIES tag-o-curious -- 1 dabblers -- 2 to 5 strivers-- 6 to 15 over-achievers-- 16 to 31 OCD at-risks-- 32 to 63 "Russian word here that won't paste as the russian alphabet"-- 64 -
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-05 13:58:30
Bruced! Wow, this game moves fast some days. Bah, no upload button, either. Gonnahafta fiddle with editing the post. After an hour of riding around riverfronts! And bruced, at that! Ok, here, next to Highmark stadium, just yards from where I dropped anchor ^H^H^H^H^H^Ha tag
stuinmccandless
2013-10-05 15:42:56
Yeah, I rode past that anchor this morning. That sea of orange cones really struck me. They were having a BMW driving demonstration. I'll bet I could outdo any of the cars in terms of precise handling. I couldn't Google to translate it, but I'm pretty sure that Russian word means "awesome".
jonawebb
2013-10-05 16:02:49
Oh, this is maddening. Definitely the right site, just not the right spot. Where is that fence?! ETA: ok, this: CMU campus, construction area behind Hamburg Hall.
stuinmccandless
2013-10-05 16:41:42
Six months ago, the space on the right looked like the space on the left. But with a lot of volunteer labor and $1,500 of tax money, it's been cleared out, cleaned up, and seeded with flowers and native plants.
stuinmccandless
2013-10-05 17:18:16
A three-tag-day!
jonawebb
2013-10-05 19:10:37
TeamDecaf wrote:I couldn’t find a translation for the Russian word though. the russian alphabet”– 64 –
Transliteration would be "Stahanovtsy". This is based on last name "Stahanov" who was in charge of coal-miner brigade that produced enormous amount of coal per each day (as usual rigged) and it became an word of its own meaning that you have to work really-really hard to earn this nick-name.
mikhail
2013-10-05 20:26:10
I didn't add the two new categories. I didn't even notice them till you pointed it out, though they appeared back on September 23 (courtesy of "anonymous", says Google). I coded the "most tags" and "found by groups" logic (and did most of the data entry). Other folks have added the chart and the list of categories (original and improved).
steven
2013-10-06 00:38:42
For a second I thought that upper pic was snow, and I wondered, where the eff did Stu find snow?!
edmonds59
2013-10-06 06:54:19
Craig and Bigelow. Set with the weekend hills group including Buffalo Buffalo.
ted
2013-10-06 12:26:20
Steven wrote:courtesy of “anonymous”, says Google
Hmm, who could that be? It would have to be someone who was familiar with Russian idioms... can't think of anyone...
jonawebb
2013-10-06 15:00:31
^Thanks Mikhail, Steven & anonymous. I'm feelin' a little more worldly now.
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-06 17:11:57
This veteran cyclist has a bird's eye view.
ted
2013-10-06 18:36:13
Found him! Vietnam Veterans' Memorial, North Shore.
rustyred
2013-10-07 07:37:04
New tag! This tag (no pun intended) is just a hop, skrip and a jump away.
rustyred
2013-10-07 07:43:06
jonawebb wrote:
Steven wrote:courtesy of “anonymous”, says Google
Hmm, who could that be? It would have to be someone who was familiar with Russian idioms… can’t think of anyone…
Wasn't me for sure.
mikhail
2013-10-07 11:31:53
Boy, that's a lot of curiosity. Fortunately, no dead cats as yet. Way back, in the mists of time, I added the histogram chart to the Tag-o-Rama spreadsheet, mostly because I was curious about the player distribution. It became apparent that people stratified in terms of their focus on the game. So I added the range labels; they were not meant to be too serious, after all it was a light-hearted, fun game with a top score of ~16, I think. I visited the spreadsheet more recently and (among other things) realized that the scores had really shot up. Calling the top tier Stakhanovites seemed about right: Heroes we seek to emulate.
ahlir
2013-10-07 15:57:48
Ft duke bridge
steeld55
2013-10-07 19:15:10
::crickets::
stuinmccandless
2013-10-09 22:37:38
NEW TAG: Sorry stu had to use a diffrent phone to upload this pic, This place is no longer in use but people still show up in their underwear.
steeld55
2013-10-10 08:38:50
Leslie Pool, Laurenceville Located at: 40.47338, -79.95764
ahlir
2013-10-10 16:59:57
Ahlir returns!!!! Yeeaaaaas! And oh yeah, Zombie fest is there on Saturday. Brain eating and screaming contests.
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-10 17:01:27
I thought I knew this quotation, but I looked it up anyway. Turns out it's not Lincoln, but I was sort of close. Note: I couldn't quite make up my mind on which shot to use, so if you think the image looks different from earlier... you're right. Feel free to complain, or just use (your recollection of) the other views to help you snag the tag.
ahlir
2013-10-11 20:00:56
Wow, this is an actual place in Pittsburgh? Whatever and wherever this is, this is an absolutely wonderful tag! Like "Octopus's Garden" and "Snoopy's Doghouse", this leaves me with that feeling of awesomeness that we really do have a cool town here, don't we? Thank you, Ahlir, for finding it!
stuinmccandless
2013-10-11 20:33:49
It's Larimer Elementary School in Lincoln-Larimer
jonawebb
2013-10-12 09:09:43
Indeed it is... and the building has some cool facades. At some point it must have been a religious institution (off to the right is what looks to me like a church entrance). It's located in the center of Pittsburgh's old Little Italy.
ahlir
2013-10-12 09:34:17
While riding this Morning, I found this gun in a rock. Get out on your bike, And prove you're a jock.
jonawebb
2013-10-12 12:24:45
Jon, you got me! Obviously my game is not up to the current level (which is what happened last time: snooze→lose; sigh→argh). But your tag: what's with the two rectangles in the top middle? (The ones with the wrong-ways gradient.) They don't seem to be part of the scene: don't conform to the top-lighting bleed from your lens and don't seem to be part of the art piece. (btw, the "gun" looks to be more of a miner's drill). At some point, way back when, I think the game decided that fooling with proffered tag images was not ok (the case had to do with shifting the colors on a mural). Help me here. I want to spend tomorrow on my bike...
ahlir
2013-10-12 18:16:46
I think it's Ok to fool with the photo if you're blocking out identifiable marks.
jonawebb
2013-10-12 19:54:48
Well, maybe. But you're fooling with what people will try to look for. I had to visit the Larimer site three times (day, morning, evening) before things were right. (During work hours the're trucks in in front and the doors are open; for the week-end work would not be happening.) The world is not predictable, and that's ok. But we shouldn't fool with it. Could you have chosen a different perspective (though I really loved the one you chose)? Anyway, give me a reason to tag-bike (bike-tag?) tomorrow.
ahlir
2013-10-12 21:05:39
Some previous tag photos have been altered like that (for instance, Jon's tag 450, Welcome to Frick Park), but I don't think anyone complained at the time. The "colors on a mural" discussion you remember, I'm guessing, was about tag 75, Flag Mural. It never evolved into a formal rule though. I think the result is nicer when such content is just cropped out, or artfully blocked Austin Powers-style. But if some player has just returned from a long climb up a hill with a beautiful sunset photo, and only then notices a building address printed right there in the middle, it seems mean to say he has to go back and try again. Perhaps the rules should discourage but not prohibit this type of alteration, and say the tagger must point it out? But if we do decide to prohibit this from now on, I suggest it should start with the next tag, not Jon's current one, to be fair.
steven
2013-10-13 00:25:46
Good enough for me. Didn't mean to sound all that picky, but I get that way sometimes.
ahlir
2013-10-13 10:17:44
After all that bellyaching I figured I should just go and get it... location: 40.486918, -79.926543 Jon's clues were more than adequate to figure out the location (though I didn't really get that "jock" bit.) In context:
ahlir
2013-10-13 15:17:26
So, where is this, exactly? I don't think I've ever been past this.
stuinmccandless
2013-10-13 15:51:47
Morningside. 3945, btw, is not a street address but a post number.
epanastrophe
2013-10-13 16:14:40
StuInMcCandless wrote:So, where is this, exactly? I don’t think I’ve ever been past this.
Cut&paste latitude-longitude into maps.google.com and it will show you exact location. :)
mikhail
2013-10-13 16:30:23
"Jock" rhymed with "rock". Congrats, Ahlir!
jonawebb
2013-10-13 18:49:13
Ah, poetry. The "jock" thing made me first go by the local playground (the one next to the old-folks home), just to be sure. But then the VFW is next to a pub, which also seemed like at "jock" thing. While I was snapping. this fellow waved at me and insisted that I take a photo. He does have a jock-ish appearance. And Now I see that the pub currently features pumpkin shandies. How could I miss that? Too focused on the tag thing... This gentleman also suggested that I go around the corner (to the east) where I could find another interesting ("ugly") thing to snap. Sadly, I did not follow his advice. But it's there, in the back of my mind. In any case I was very relieved that the "jock" thing did not mean that I had to climb that totally nasty Greenwood hill.
ahlir
2013-10-13 19:27:24
FWIW, Google's Streetview of September 2012 shows a different memorial there, a plainer one with a little flower bed.
steven
2013-10-13 22:43:38
@Ahlir, those are all better uses of "jock" than mine.
jonawebb
2013-10-14 07:16:25
What is a "shandy"? And what flavor are they usually?
helen-s
2013-10-14 14:54:24
shandy is beer mixed with lemonade or with some other carbonated beverage, often lemon pop, cider, or ginger beer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shandy
epanastrophe
2013-10-14 15:00:05
How about "east is east and west is west, but this truly is West"?
ahlir
2013-10-14 18:13:13
If you want to Home in on this tag, I would head east (something that's much easier than it used to be).
ahlir
2013-10-17 09:18:27
Back in July, I dropped Tag 709, which disappeared before it could be picked up. A day or two ago, I noticed that it reappeared, in the same spot. I don't think that has ever happened before in this game!
stuinmccandless
2013-10-17 10:26:54
stu, you'll need a 'page/145/' in that link to make it work.
epanastrophe
2013-10-17 11:08:32
Vietnamese Buddhist temple, West St., Homestead.
epanastrophe
2013-10-17 18:29:47
@buffalo*2 - So I see. What makes that irritating is that I grabbed the link from the "#" on that post. Anyway, it was this photo, from this post. (Note: Not the current tag.)
stuinmccandless
2013-10-17 18:47:02
If you get here before 7 this week or next, you can see not only an excellent fence mural, but a fabulous concert as well.
epanastrophe
2013-10-19 12:42:18
Shadyside nursery on Ellsworth with campV
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-20 13:32:05
Labatt Boo, that's our clue. for now. Set with campV
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-20 17:05:04
Blue is the bird that lives near. Green is the bottle of the rock beer.
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-21 20:22:36
Lazy pickup (on my commute). Melwood and Heron.
randy
2013-10-25 07:25:00
"Blue is the bird that lives near" ?
epanastrophe
2013-10-25 07:26:54
Great Blue "Heron"
randy
2013-10-25 07:27:58
Worst clues ever. I guess he was referring to the great blue heron.
jonawebb
2013-10-25 07:29:26
I don't know about 'worst ever', but I did think it was a reference to the Bluebird cafe in Downtown...
epanastrophe
2013-10-25 07:34:20
Next time I'll just give you the map coordinates, that should keep the whining down.
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-25 07:38:12
@jonawebb: "Worst clues ever." Worst use of Comic Book Guy's catchphrase ever.
jaysherman5000
2013-10-25 07:51:10
Will post this morning. Sorry, y'all.
randy
2013-10-28 05:29:08
Sorry pbeaves, you probably cant get a PBR at this historic landmark, but I hear the Martinis are good...
randy
2013-10-28 06:35:10
Sunnyledge B&B, at 5th and Wilkins. Features a martini bar; sorry, didn't go in to check for the PBR. lat-lon: 40.44766, -79.93746 details
ahlir
2013-10-28 14:14:56
I rode off to get this one tag I had in mind. It was a ways away and I got tired. So anyway. This is the tag you'll have to find. Clues. 1) Note the shadows; according to the EXIF this was snapped at 17:10:59. Had I only waited that one second longer... 2) Those spires are indeed in the Romanesque style.
ahlir
2013-10-28 18:30:46
Ahlir, I had no idea you rode such a tiny bike!
epanastrophe
2013-10-28 18:52:04
Sigh, I know. It's had me thinking about building a Monster Bike... And, yes, I already know about this one: What I'd really like is one that I could use to crush me some cars.
ahlir
2013-10-28 19:04:48
Awesome tag, Ahlir. Great Shot.
teamdecafweekend
2013-10-28 19:27:20
@Ahlir, now I know why you were so sorely missed. Great tag!
jonawebb
2013-10-29 06:26:10
33rd St, just off Smallman. St Augustine's in the background.
stuinmccandless
2013-10-29 17:44:20
Bruced! Darn. This was a fun tag!
ted
2013-10-29 18:17:56
This was a tough one for which to pick a shot but it's just one of the neat things in that corner of Pittsburgh. lat-lon: 40.46288, -79.97026
ahlir
2013-10-29 18:50:52
For a centrally located softball No one here can remember old Lafayette Hall The Grand Old Party may have changed And today seems deranged But Pittsburgh was where it started at all.
stuinmccandless
2013-10-30 11:24:50
Lafayette Hall historic plaque outside Mandarin Gourmet restaurant, Fourth and Wood streets, downtown. I thought that brick looked dang familiar.
edmonds59
2013-10-30 14:34:29
This is the way to where the symphony used to play, though it might look more like something from the wrath of Kahn. You shouldn't have to hunt too hard for it.
edmonds59
2013-10-30 17:42:40
It's a beautiful day out...
edmonds59
2013-11-01 11:26:53
Another clue, please?
jonawebb
2013-11-02 11:49:08
Ok, let me float a clarification to a previous clue. You shouldn't have to Hunt too hard for it. See if that helps. Also, it might be windy out today, see if the wind helps you.
edmonds59
2013-11-02 11:59:55
I had a hunch that's where it was, but on unicycle Thursday and motorcycle Friday, I didn't have much opportunity to head over that way. OK, Jon, this might be a race. I was headed out to OTB for the Reverse Keg Ride anyway, planning to leave shortly. Colorful clue, Bill. Thanks!
stuinmccandless
2013-11-02 12:14:45
Behind Hunt Stained Glass Studios, off West Carson St next to West End Bridge.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-02 13:59:57
NEW TAG! Haven't been in this game in a while? Time to get a moooove on.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-02 19:40:17
Very good Stu. Just by way of explanation of the clues, through this underpass is docked the Counterpoint II, a floating concert hall and sometime home of the American Wind Symphony. And it was designed by world renowned architect Louis Kahn. It has been around the world, and it sits forlornly among rusting gravel barges.
edmonds59
2013-11-02 20:49:19
Got the tag!!! Cow on front yard of house on Penn Ave in Garfield! I've been wanting to tag this for myself before!
bikeygirl
2013-11-03 09:57:30
NEW TAG! While everyone knows of the "Great Fire" that almost destroyed the City of Chicago in the late 1800's, did you know that Pittsburgh had its own version of it ahead of the Windy City? This plaque that commemorates the catastrophe is located in a very busy street in Town, however unless you actually look around for it, you won't notice it :(
bikeygirl
2013-11-04 22:28:37
Got it! Next to the Pita Pit on Smithfield.
rustyred
2013-11-05 08:48:45
New Tag! You might find some poles here, and it's in the North, but I don't think Santa lives here.
rustyred
2013-11-05 09:09:31
Need more clues?
rustyred
2013-11-07 10:18:02
No more clues -- I just haven't had time to get there...
jonawebb
2013-11-07 10:34:19
I'll be in that 'hood tonight, but not until late...
jaysherman5000
2013-11-07 16:01:26
lat-lon: 40.453095, -80.030277 Located close to Pittsburgh's historic Casino District. Some additional clues did come to mind. For example "almost Heaven", " a Pen on the way to a" ... and a close-up
ahlir
2013-11-08 11:56:25
Next up: Sometimes a river runs through it and sometimes it runs over it To say more would weigh a ton and still fail to make my poem soar
ahlir
2013-11-09 13:55:00
Under one of the Glenwood Bridge on-ramps
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-10 13:56:20
This tag doesn't need a clue because it's Internationally known. And for the whiner(s) who didn't like the clues on my last tag... as promised, here are the coordinates where you can go: 42.4347° N, 83.9850° W
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-10 22:54:05
Yinz keep tagging my commute. This sculpture is part of the 2013 Carnegie International @ The Carnegie Museum of Art
randy
2013-11-11 08:35:35
The piece is Phyllida Barlow's "TIP"
randy
2013-11-11 08:40:31
Damn you randy!!! You brucefd me!!!! Was just gonna post the pic and you beat me to it :) Ohhh well, a nice morning detour :) Crickets!!!
bikeygirl
2013-11-11 08:45:28
Thanks to this tag, I remembered to bring with me the library book I have to return. But now I don't feel any desire to run out to Oakland to return it.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-11 12:14:40
StuInMcCandless wrote:Thanks to this tag, I remembered to bring with me the library book I have to return. But now I don’t feel any desire to run out to Oakland to return it.
Does the Downtown library have an external drop? I'd suggest hitting it on your way home, but they may be closed by then, and I vaguely remember having been foiled by it before. (If nothing else, the North Side branch definitely has an external return box...)
epanastrophe
2013-11-11 12:17:03
I don't think they do, but between that post and this, I walked over and handed them the book.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-11 12:32:29
Bikeygirl's preemptive "crickets" trolling had me back on the bike for my lunch break... :-) New tag: If you enhance this pic you can see this tag's namesake. Or start singing: "With tuppence for paper and strings You can have your own set of wings..."
randy
2013-11-11 13:30:14
Just an fyi to all players... For the benefit of prospective new players (and long-time players), I've adjusted/edited 2 of the help links in the rules of the game. The 2 links were going to an old page which gave instructions on how to post photos. Since the web make-over, those old instructions have gotten somewhat obsolete. You can still post using the old method, but faster and easier ways are now found on the thread I made called "How to Post Photos 2." If anyone wants to add more tips or info to the thread, feel free.
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-11 22:13:17
Thanks TD! And I can always update the first post in this thread if need be.
ted
2013-11-12 11:00:50
I rescind my earlier comment: it appears posts can only be edited for a short time after they are submitted.
ted
2013-11-12 23:02:48
You have an hour to fix a post. Moderators (such as TD) can modify old posts.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-13 07:57:09
Yeah, I know. But I'm clueless.
ahlir
2013-11-13 08:55:45
I'll pick up this tag tonight on the way home if no one else has (just in case Ahlir's ambiguous post was a request for another clue). I've figured it out.
jonawebb
2013-11-13 09:10:31
Them's kitin' words Jon... lat-lon: 40.46665, -79.93288 Kite Hill Park, Garfield.
ahlir
2013-11-13 11:25:13
And from the back... I thought I had waited long enough for ice to start melting. But no. The sound of spinning tires does concentrate the mind.
ahlir
2013-11-13 11:37:26
I'm tempted to say this is a self-clueing tag But, hey I should add: workday + early-dark day = tag-on-a-bikeway
ahlir
2013-11-13 18:06:01
Yarrow St., in Panther Hollow
jonawebb
2013-11-13 21:13:13
(To the tune of "You've got a friend"): When your heading down, To Greenfield, And you want a shorter path, And you just don't feel like dealing with traffic yet again. Pump your legs together, And head on over this way, Even though you have to ride past some lonely old gay men. You just ride through the woods, And you know, hop over some trees, And you'll be there, on the bikeway.
jonawebb
2013-11-14 08:40:59
lat-lon: 40.43142, -79.93700 On top of Pocussett, All covered with leaves I lost my poor chainring, When somebody sneezed
ahlir
2013-11-14 11:31:00
Next Tag: Just now it's a pain To bike up from the west So I came down from the north And now I'm face to the south It was almost dinner Yet goulash aromas Were not in the air Hard to explain But actually not
ahlir
2013-11-14 19:44:28
Fixing the doggerel. Less clueful but it scans better, I think. ------------------- Just now it’s a pain To bike up from the west So I came down from the north It was almost dinner Yet goulash aromas Were not in the air Hard to explain But actually not ------------------- Yes, please stop me before I tag again...
ahlir
2013-11-14 20:51:37
Maybe another clue?
jonawebb
2013-11-17 15:10:22
Maybe. This is a different crop that might provide more information. A couple of hints: The hills in the background might be familiar, they overlook a popular trail. And, yes, a river runs through there.
ahlir
2013-11-17 19:01:54
This neighborhood is in between rail lines. One beyond the houses and another behind me. Actually I'd say it's more like surrounded on all four sides if you include some industrial land.
ahlir
2013-11-18 15:40:16
I've definitely been by this place before, but I just cannot remember where it is! I feel like someone should get it soon with all these clues....
ted
2013-11-18 18:02:56
Ah, that helps. Now, to find an extra half hour in the morning to get over that way. Note: I don't actually *know* but I now have a pretty good hunch where to look.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-18 21:22:44
Sadly, I know were this is, but no time to grab it :/
bikeygirl
2013-11-19 15:18:51
Lytle cafe, Lytle and Elizabeth, Hazelwood
jonawebb
2013-11-19 19:22:30
ooooohhhhhhh! Nice!
ted
2013-11-20 10:45:17
To the tune of "Fire and Rain": I've rode forward and I've rode back, I've rode curvy roads that I thought would never end, I've been where that road almost touched itself, But I always knew that I would come home again.
jonawebb
2013-11-20 21:00:14
hmm. I'm not totally sure about this one, given the lighting differences. Also I appear to be at a spot that's maybe a good metre downhill from the tag (given how the bikes and blocks line up). Corner of Forward and Shady.
ahlir
2013-11-21 14:29:44
Nope. You're in the neighborhood, though.
jonawebb
2013-11-21 14:58:15
sigh. I may have blown my time budget on that one. In any case, I was hoping to avoid the other interpretation...
ahlir
2013-11-21 16:48:01
Holocaust Memorial at Beechwood & Forward
ahlir
2013-11-23 09:20:33
Yay! The glass blocks are filled with the pop-off tabs from aluminum cans, representing people who were discarded in the same way.
jonawebb
2013-11-23 09:23:51
ahlir
2013-11-23 09:38:02
Wow I didnt know that memorial even existed. Is it new?
marko82
2013-11-23 09:43:04
Wow. I didn't know this existed.
edmonds59
2013-11-23 09:44:03
Ahhh, bruced, left too late. I had been wanting to tag this location too. With campV
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-23 10:25:12
I, too, didn't know this existed. Gonnahafta get over that way and check that out! Thanks, Jon, for the interesting tag. Second P-G article on it It's quite new, dedicated within the last month. And come to think of it, I did know about it, as Elena Hiatt Houlihan, the artist mentioned in the article, came to my Toastmasters group meeting a few weeks ago around the time of the dedication to talk about it.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-23 15:03:04
Next: I wanted to think of this as a Studio shot Sadly, no closeup Turkey ribs on sale nearby
ahlir
2013-11-23 15:54:47
31st Street studios with LindaP. Whew, cold ride today!
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-24 12:36:32
Cool! (or, uh, freezing...) Did you stop in and get some turkey ribs? They were on sale.
ahlir
2013-11-24 13:15:39
Ah well, I missed the turkey opportunity, too busy trying to stay warm. I've tagged one of the other 4 of these pieces of street art - they deserve another place in the game. Tagged with LindaP.
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-24 18:51:20
An interesting dilemma...
ahlir
2013-11-25 17:13:39
Nope, no problem at all. Well, yes, the flat tire is a problem, but I had no problem finding this tag! Smithfield at Forbes, Downtown.
stuinmccandless
2013-11-25 18:40:36
Uh, sorry to say stu, but that's not the right Toynbee tile. Notice the details, it's different.
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-25 18:46:33
Oh crap, it's not the same one! The tag drop does not have the red patch underneath. The one at Smithfield & Forbes does. This tag is still open, folks! (I'm on a bus headed home, the bike has a flat & is locked up downtown. My chances of trying again are zero.)
stuinmccandless
2013-11-25 18:48:00
TeamDecaf wrote:Uh, sorry to say stu, but that’s not the right Toynbee tile. Notice the details, it’s different.
I'm fascinated by Toynbee tiles, I remember seeing them when I moved here in 1989 and I find it hard to believe they haven't been paved over. Really? Smithfield hasn't been repaved since the late 80's?
rustyred
2013-11-25 18:52:58
^Yeah, RR, I can barely believe they haven't been paved over, scraped off by salt trucks or worn out by heavy daily traffic. I want them to stay forever. Read more. Just Google Toynbee tiles, like RR says, it is fascinating.
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-25 19:02:40
The tagged one, I believe.
ahlir
2013-11-25 19:05:07
^ Correct, Smithfield and Oliver. And by the way, you can see them on street view too.
teamdecafweekend
2013-11-25 19:07:52
ok, I think this should be a reasonably easy one, provided you look up, now and then, on your commute into town.
ahlir
2013-11-25 20:52:11
Forgot to grab this before work. I'll get it tonight unless someone gets there first.
ted
2013-11-27 10:14:54
Sorry this picture looks like ****, but it's Liberto signs at 39th and Liberty.
ted
2013-11-27 22:35:39
Near a spirit forest I came upon this road Its name is quite a misnomer As my journey showed Happy Thanksgiving!
ted
2013-11-28 13:15:25
Is this it? Industrial highway
jonawebb
2013-11-29 12:00:34
Yes! Fairywood is a strange place, and that road is neither a highway nor industrial.
ted
2013-11-29 14:12:13
I'd been meaning to tag that, which is how I recognized it, but I couldn't see your photo well enough when I was outside to tell if it was the right place. Nerds and dramats May find common ground In solving this puzzle, If puzzle be found. Or perhaps business majors Could add up the numbers To some large sum And know in their slumbers Is it just art? Perhaps there's a clue In the backwards quote On the wall next to.
jonawebb
2013-11-29 14:32:19
Many years ago the "industrial highway" above was used as the region's illegal drag strip every Sunday night at around 8:00 p.m. I heard some crazy stories about street racing at that place, including a driver losing control and ending up upside-down in the creek, superbike guys who had no idea what they were doing riding wheelies, etc. The craziest one I heard was about a guy who brought down a Camaro SS on a trailer, backed it off started it up. The engine immediately caught fire and burned the whole front of the car the ground; they winched it back onto the trailer while it was still smoking and left, all in about 7 minutes from arrival to their unceremonious departure. Anyway, carry on.
jmccrea
2013-11-29 16:26:24
Right: Kraus Campo, at CMU, between fine arts and the business school. Lat-lon: 40° 26.483', -79° 56.553' Artist statement, etc
ahlir
2013-11-30 11:37:43
I misjudged the speed of the DD ride today, arriving at the top of Tesla and wondering why no one was there. Did I get there too late? No, apparently. A gentleman from West Virginia drove and started a conversation. He was up here with a couple of cyclists doing the ride. We talked. He said that the people were maybe an hour behind. Eventually he said he was off to get a sandwich at a Rite-Aid he spotted somewhere down below (does Right-Aid do prepared food? I know they're slowly turning into a corner grocery store, but anyway). Eventually I got my (maybe not-so) smartphone to load up the GPS trace one of the riders was broadcasting. Sadly her battery (or something) gave out just past Sycamore. What to do? I started to get chilled (what with the sweating and all). I rode off towards home, turning left on Frank. Yikes. Now I know why these races climb up, instead of down. Though come to think of it, this town is just so totally ripe for an urban downhill race... But anyway, I feel like I'm getting off topic. Or did I just commit one of those dreadful thread hijacks? Sorry, my bad. Here's the next tag: I apologize, but I'm not feeling all that poetic today, nor do I want to take a chance on song lyrics. So, um, here's your clue And in a hat-tip to the DD: no climbing for this one. (Well, hardly.)
ahlir
2013-11-30 16:31:01
So it's called "Kraus Campo", cool. I was introduced to this on the Carnegie International bike ride. I had no idea it was there. My son Peter thinks it has a puzzle-like quality, and I agree. If this was Myst, there would be something in the arrangement of the numbers that would give you a clue on how to unlock something else that would, eventually, let you win the game.
jonawebb
2013-11-30 17:53:02
Industrial school, Homestead. With LindaP. 9th street
teamdecafweekend
2013-12-01 12:30:17
Hmmm, yeah, it's a not-so-new tag. This one has been set before (we just plain didn't look in advance to see if this had been used). Oh well, we have no other tag shot and no plans to get back out in the next 24 hours so it'll have to do. Our shot is tighter, giving far fewer clues to the location than the original tag. He who set the original tag picked up a tag of mine immediately before he set the original. Now I'm setting a tag having just picked up a tag from he who set the original tag of my not-so-new tag. We need a few new taggers. Set with LindaP
teamdecafweekend
2013-12-01 22:09:23
Recognized those hills immediately (and that mortar)... I had to get in a bit earlier today so didn't pick it up. I'm happy to snooze for a day or two, in case a player who's not Type-A wants to pick it up. (Well, I suppose as long as the other Type-As agree.)
ahlir
2013-12-02 08:18:40
hm, no takers so far. This can't be that obscure, can it? Unless someone is planning to swoop down on this one sometime soon, let me propose a group pickup. If you've been meaning to get a tag but haven't been able to lately, this could be the opportunity. If you are interested, post. I can be at the (library) corner of Murray & Forbes at (say) 5:15pm and we can proceed from there. I'll be the one wearing a helmet.
ahlir
2013-12-04 14:20:33
Hmmm, no group, eh? Well how about this clue... the original tag location was set by the second in this sequence. Find the sequence, find the tag: TeamDecaf Ahlir melange396 abracadabra reddan abracadabra TeamDecaf abracadabra Bikeygirl stefb/Ahlir Kayla
teamdecafweekend
2013-12-04 21:45:36
ok, I'm inclined to go pick it up tomorrow morning and replace it with something else I have in mind (though not necessarily more obvious). I can ride by Forbes&Murray, or not. It will have to be ~7:30am. So please post if you're in. We'd manage to get back there by 8:30am.
ahlir
2013-12-04 22:32:41
40° 25.476', -79° 54.591' Summerset, overlooking the Parkway East.
ahlir
2013-12-05 10:17:21
That is not St. Peter. But it is on a busy commuter stretch.
ahlir
2013-12-05 10:31:49
so close, and yet... so rainy
epanastrophe
2013-12-05 11:23:51
Rectory, St Paul Cathedral, Dithridge at Fifth, Oakland.
epanastrophe
2013-12-06 08:51:13
Tag much?
jonawebb
2013-12-08 13:16:56
This is taking too long. I'm seriously going to bruce bb, take the tag somewhere else, and drop it, if this keeps going on.
jonawebb
2013-12-09 16:10:11
for the record, i blew out a tyre in the snowstorm friday night, had plans saturday am & so didn't get it fixed until saturday evening, and, oh yeah, there was another fucking snowstorm sunday afternoon during which it was advised people stay off the roads, on top of which I was busy most of the afternoon. now that I'm finally leaving work, i could go set a new tag, except that the same three people have something like 13 out of the last 15 pickups, so who even gives a fuck anymore?
epanastrophe
2013-12-09 19:47:02
New week, new tag. New pavement, semi-new handrail, less-new theatre... and if you've picked up a tag recently, I'd suggest leaving this one for a new player.
epanastrophe
2013-12-09 20:15:55
^ I hear ya, bb - no offense taken on my part. I agree - It's getting kinda monotonous. We need new taggers.
teamdecafweekend
2013-12-09 20:48:38
I would have gone for some, but I've been busy commuting in the dark & slinging sammiches.
pbeaver
2013-12-09 21:05:44
temper temper... I agree that I'd be nice to see more variety in the tags set. But one condition would be that at least some tags are easy to spot. It's ok to have ones challenging the obsessive cyclers who've pretty much ridden along all the streets around. But it's also nice to have ones that lots of people can spot. For my part I've been trying to alternate "interesting" and obvious tags. Maybe that helps. Offering to lead folks to a pickup is also a nice idea. oh, did I mention it yet? Relax. But we do want to keep the wheels rolling.
ahlir
2013-12-10 05:14:38
I am happy to see any people at all tagging these days. But I was sorry to miss my weekend tag. It's my only opportunity to set a tag in the daylight.
jonawebb
2013-12-10 08:21:56
I think the new taggers / lurkers out there might need an additional clue?
ted
2013-12-16 17:46:55
I agree. At this point "picked up a tag recently" is beginning to apply to a smaller and smaller number of people...
ahlir
2013-12-17 14:02:06
You know, I'd post a clue myself, if I knew one, but I don't. Unless this is one.
jonawebb
2013-12-18 16:45:12
jonawebb wrote:Unless this is one.
Right genus of place, wrong species. (Also, wrong habitat, though not completely.) I haven't been able to take a new photo--I pretty much haven't been outside during daylight hours except to ride to work, and it's not on my commute--but maybe this slightly retouched version will help. still not visible: 2-foot-high curb out of shot low, bridge out of shot left. hopefully more visible: year-old wooden 'chair ramp.
epanastrophe
2013-12-18 17:55:30
Thank you for the extra clue. Still don't get it. But the first photo had something I just know I've seen before. But where?
ahlir
2013-12-18 21:09:13
I may take a crack at this tomorrow, just on the off chance that my guesses lead me somewhere useful -- but for the sake of less experienced players, it would be good if bb could post another clue or two.
jonawebb
2013-12-20 21:51:57
I blew off some of yesterday afternoon (a nice day, if you aimed for that 2hr break in the rain) riding around for this clue. In my defense, not that many people were in on my floor that day. Who would notice? My original feeling was that the tag had to be in a parking ramp. Consider the rainspout. That wooden incline was an issue (why the nice quality handrails?). It turns out that while many ramps in town use the guardrail design in the photo, they're normally painted yellow (duh). Except for the one across from the Byham ("old theatre") which has blue rails and black rails (and bike parking!). I cruised around the ground floor but didn't find anything suitable ("river on the left"). But maybe I wasn't paying enough attention (I'm like that). Also, I assumed I wouldn't need to work my way up the ramp. Of course I could be totally misreading the tag. Anyway, I have other stuffs to do tomorrow... have fun. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Some additional thoughts (i.e. I'm waiting for my turn in the kitchen, and enjoying a glass of wine): Certain players have racked up a whole lot more tags than others. I can see that as intimidating. Today there's ~4 people who seem to have racked up insurmountable leads. But so what? They are beatable, one tag at a time. Of course competition is just one view, and maybe not the most useful one. It's also a spectator sport, so relax. Getting a tag might be a goal in itself. But maybe it's about getting to share some interesting bit of Pittsburgh with the rest of us. I know that after starting to play the game I started to pay a whole lot more attention to the city, always looking around and wondering "could that be a tag?" Pittsburgh, after a few decades, suddenly became way more interesting. I like that. From a more practical perspective, maybe the mavens could set "easy" tags, then wait a couple of days before swooping down. And occasionally, for variety, "hard" tags that could maybe pick spots that require more than just commuting around and involve some inner urge to just roam on wheels.
ahlir
2013-12-21 18:44:35
Plus, it's a fun game. It's fun to get out and look where you think a tag might be, even if you don't find it. It's fun to get a chance to ride your bike around town in places you don't usually go. It's fun to explore neighborhoods you never go to. It's fun to see something unique or interesting and remember it to share with other people.
jonawebb
2013-12-21 19:34:54
...for the record.
ahlir
2013-12-21 20:01:05
Aww damn it, I could have gotten this last night or the night before It's not on the street view, but it's on the map. You might want to suggest a location. This would have been a dead end for me a couple of months ago. People with GPS's had to improvise Ahlir, you're nowhere close geographically, but you need to think Close
sgtjonson
2013-12-22 14:22:43
Ah well, so it goes... it still feels like a ramp though.
ahlir
2013-12-22 22:12:12
I think the ramp is kind of a distraction. There is newer parking near by you might find suitable though. A runnel would come in handy to get to it from this tag, but that too is a pretty much unrelated distraction for jonawebb. You're on the right track going after Byham, but this tag is much smaller. It's like SNL to SCTV. (Assuming the popularity of SCTV was as small as its pop culture footprint is now) Interestingly, both places have shimmery neighbors too
sgtjonson
2013-12-22 23:23:48
I excluded myself from this tag for the first few days, but I think anyone can take it now. My problem is that I don't recognize where or what this is, though I have this feeling I've been past it 10 times since it was posted.
stuinmccandless
2013-12-23 14:24:50
All I want for Christmas is a Tag-o-Rama clue.
jonawebb
2013-12-23 14:47:34
I guess I'm just going to have to ride all over the city, taking pictures of every ramp, and figuring it out when I get home. It's all about getting out and riding, right? Earlier today, I walked past the 10-foot "@" sign I used for my first tag. It's still there, and IMHO is the ideal tag: It's very visible, it's not immediately obvious where it is, and the more you get out and ride, the more likely you are to see something like that. Ditto the Snoopy doghouse, various anchors, the hopscotch poetry on Smallman, the "On this site in 1897 nothing happened" plaque, and various other oddball tags I've either picked up or dropped. Through this game, I learned about the Octopus's Garden, Randyland, changing murals (under the bridge on Federal at Lacock), and all manner of new ways to get around town. I've inspected alleyways, explored neighborhoods I would not otherwise have known existed, and found staircases I did not know were there. Because of this game, I have been able to help a lot with the murals project. Because of this game, I still know where some of the protractors are. Because of this game, I have tried biking on streets that I might not otherwise have considered (E Carson past Hot Metal), and gone to towns I had never been to before (Homestead) entirely under my own power.
stuinmccandless
2013-12-23 16:01:50
Ok, the current tag has been up for 2 weeks, since the 9th. This is getting a bit silly. Even allowing for the weather. I think this game could use some additional rules: 1) If a tag is not picked up in 4 days, the tagger is invited to release additional clues, on a regular basis, until someone picks it up. 2) If a tag stays up for more than 10 days, it is fair game for someone to grab the previous tag, in order to keep the game moving. For this purpose, a day will begin at midnight of the 10th day after the original tag setting. This of course is just a proposal...
ahlir
2013-12-24 10:36:41
I like rule 1, which is sort of the way we've been doing things all alone. I get really nervous when my tags stay up too long. Bb is just more calm, I guess. Rule 2 I can do without. Eventually someone will get this one. Pierce knows where it is, etc.
jonawebb
2013-12-24 15:02:27
Well, Rule 1 is the reasonable one. But you need Rule 2 if the tagger disappears or is otherwise inconvenienced.
ahlir
2013-12-24 15:38:47
I like rule 1, but I think the goal of rule 2 is best handled less formally. The amount of time it's appropriate to wait will vary based on weather, for instance. A fairly easy-to-locate but distant tag set just before Snowmageddon isn't equivalent to a stumper ("find this rock") set by a poster who promptly disappears in the middle of some fine spring tag-finding weather. Perhaps the rule against whining should be clarified to encourage giving a hard time to those who leave excessively difficult tags.
steven
2013-12-24 18:58:52
this tag has been up so long because a) the initial image didn't make the location obvious in any way from context (say, by having a shot of the city in the background so we could determine the vantage point), 2) because the photo either was not particularly clear or didn't capture anything that was immediately recognizable to even the regular tag-getters, let alone those who are watching from the outside hoping something is dropped right near them, and iii) because buffalo^n has been either absent or too reluctant to give clues due to his hope that non-regulars will get the tag (personally, i suspect that mr. buffalo thought his clues were so very obvious that he wouldn't need to provide more, and that he hasn't been revisiting the message board lately). as it is, i have been wanting to drop a tag for a couple weeks now, but i couldn't guess at a two-mile radius for this tag, so where would i even go to look for it? at any rate, i hope it's solved when i return to town, and even more importantly, i hope my planned tag isn't used before i get to it!
hiddenvariable
2013-12-24 22:58:02
Ahlir wrote:I agree that I’d be nice to see more variety in the tags set.
My comment has never been about the variety in the tags set, but the people who set them. I still think those who have picked up one of the last n tags, for some value of n, should be ineligible to pick up a new tag until either some time period has passed or some other mark eclipsed to suggest that nobody else can find or wants it.
Ahlir wrote:Certain players have racked up a whole lot more tags than others. I can see that as intimidating.
I don't give a rat's ass about the overall tables over howevermany years the game has been played. But I am concerned that all but about two tags in a solid month were picked up by (IIRC) Ahlir, Jonawebb, or TeamDecaf--half of those by Ahlir alone. And nearly every other post on this page is either Ahlir or Jonawebb whining about not being able to figure out the current location.
Ahlir wrote:maybe it’s about getting to share some interesting bit of Pittsburgh with the rest of us.
And maybe you should back off and let someone else share, nu? ---------------------------------------------------- Lastly, as concerns the instant tag itself... I never said anything about a “river on the left”---I said 'bridge', but 'bridge' does not necessarily imply 'river'; after all, we have 400-some of the former, and only three of the latter. And sometimes a rainspout is just a rainspout. a daytime shot: New pavement, new handrail, new sidewalk (pavement?). the building, btw, is significantly less new than its tenant--but the paint is newer even than the asphalt. if, and only if, you're truly desperate, a shot of the aforementioned bridge. (to a few it may be meaningful to recall that the tag was set on a Monday.)
epanastrophe
2013-12-25 02:08:06
(p.s.: if a second player is trying to give you clues, it may occasionally be helpful to listen to that person as well. the tag setter is not necessarily the only person who knows where it is.)
epanastrophe
2013-12-25 02:09:57
I think I have it figured out, but my chances of getting over towards that part of town are quite slim indeed. Though I must say, getting back downtown afterward via transit would be quite easy from this spot.
stuinmccandless
2013-12-25 16:47:58
I gave clues that make sense given the occupant of the location in question and that (I think) just make sense in general given the location. It doesn't seem like you guys are operating near your top gears
sgtjonson
2013-12-25 17:04:57
Whoa there, B^... 1) you misrepresent what I suggested: variety referred to taggers (and by extension their tags). 2) Well, I have been active. But that's after more than a year of not being active at all. Just getting back into the swing of it, I suppose. Maybe you need to relax a bit; it is a game, after all. 3) Well, I do try to keep others involved. For example for the Summerset tag, I waited a while. Then I offered to guide people there. Twice. For a tag in Hazelwood I kept dropping clues until someone suggested I tone it down. And setting tags along commuter routes (something you yourself have benefited from). It's about helping people get to tags, not trying to score points, of one sort or another. Perhaps you should reflect on why you seem to be having these problems with the game. Anyway, I'm off to other parts. Be back in the new year...
ahlir
2013-12-25 19:35:39
Steel city improv Theater, 5950 Ellsworth
jonawebb
2013-12-26 09:51:44
Perhaps this runnel Will, like a funnel Draw in a player Who o/w might just sit and stare
jonawebb
2013-12-26 10:22:58
Louisa Street runnel
joanne
2013-12-28 16:43:48
An existential question: is this a new tag? Or a boring retread? The map says one thing, but the picture says another. (I can set a different one if need be)
joanne
2013-12-29 12:31:22
Highland Avenue bridge
steven
2014-01-01 09:11:37
NEW TAG As you can see, there's plenty of bike parking in this district. Good place for a group pickup?
steven
2014-01-01 09:29:09
Historical Note: The Highland St Bridge tag is not a retread. The previous one was on the other side: Or as Heraclitus had it: "No man ever steps in the same river twice"
ahlir
2014-01-01 21:57:42
Good to know. I also did a tag (#672) showing the new bridge under construction from the south end, so we now have east, west, and south covered. I guess somebody needs to tag the bridge from the north end. I'll also point out that you can see Steel City Improv Theater, two tags up, in both my and Joanne's photos of the bridge. The SCIT tag, as it happens, broke the record for longest-waiting tag, at 16+ days before it was picked up. The old record was set a year ago when the board was down for overhauling (tag 640).
steven
2014-01-02 08:34:15
And I think the previous second-longest was also at about this same time of year, when nobody could figure out the view in front of the Homestead Library. Early 2011, IIRC. It sat for a couple of weeks until someone dropped an obvious clue. I made a trip out there myself, only to get bruced.
stuinmccandless
2014-01-02 13:51:01
You're thinking of tag 83, back in late December 2010. It sat for 8 days with weather in the 20s, though perhaps it seemed like longer due to all the message board activity for it, with Ahlir giving us clue after clue. It was the longest tag for quite a while (narrowly beating out tag 2, the first real tag), but it's no longer in third place. Here's the current top ten. 16.57 days Tag 787 - Steel City Improv Theater 12.14 days Tag 640 - Bigelow Trail, Highland Park (board down) 8.46 days Tag 662 - The Train Gallery 7.98 days Tag 83 - Homestead Frick Park 7.70 days Tag 2 - St. Margaret's Hospital bus shelter (first real tag) 6.97 days Tag 413 - Downtown view from Pliny Way 6.94 days Tag 650 - Frick Environmental Center "Cob" bench 6.87 days Tag 644 - Emerald View Park 6.01 days Tag 35 - Engine Co #23, Carrick 5.70 days Tag 682 - Tunnel under RR on Hazelwood Trail The quickest pickup remains 58 seconds for Tag 613 - CMU Bikeshare.
steven
2014-01-03 07:07:21
can't believe this one stood for so long! i took this last night and forgot to upload it in my haste to get to bed. giant eagle market district, relatively new bike racks. i wish they were covered, but i like how many there are.
hiddenvariable
2014-01-03 11:06:23
new tag! new bicycle sculpture! or new rower sculpture. or new bicycle rze?ba?
hiddenvariable
2014-01-03 18:02:47
Back in the saddle again, after a week of swing-outs. (Boy, talk about different muscles...) Polish Hill: Brereton & Dobson Location: 40° 27.402', -79° 58.051' That little bright red spot in the vicinity of the rider's nose is a light bulb. I believe it's a seasonal thing (at least, I hope).
ahlir
2014-01-04 12:19:03
New Tag First off, I have no idea what these things are. If I did, I'd have worked on some kind of clue incorporating clever allusions. But they did look kind of interesting, so there. As before, you should be able to spot this on your way in (not out) to work. Well, ok. It'll depend on where you work. And now that I think of it, where you live. But other than that...
ahlir
2014-01-04 18:16:11
well, I was going to guess that those were anti-skateboarding, anti-homeless person napping bumps, but I think these might be lego-like bricks for some kind of standardized retaining wall. If only it were an easy task to flip them over to look for concave humps. (what is the antonym for hump, anyone?). cool tag!
pseudacris
2014-01-06 18:07:33
Pseudacris wrote:what is the antonym for hump
I think dimple would do. I thought these looked like investment castings... any foundries on your commute?
marko82
2014-01-06 18:12:17
Those look like pre-cast concrete retaining wall blocks. They stack and fit together literally like giant legos. I have no idea where this would be though.
edmonds59
2014-01-06 19:48:49
Pseudacris, I think you're right. The humps look similar to the ones in one of a photo here, where they were used for highway landscaping. Maybe that ties in with the location clue too.
steven
2014-01-06 19:49:52
I would tend to agree that these are probably retaining wall blocks. That's fresh earthwork at the back of the lot... If you read the clue carefully (and if I wasn't totally opaque), there's only one street in town that might fit the description (at least I'm pretty sure).
ahlir
2014-01-07 11:22:38
My first tag! Fifth Avenue near Jubilee Kitchen.
amygdala
2014-01-08 23:03:52
amygdala wrote: My first tag! Fifth Avenue near Jubilee Kitchen.
Congrats! :D
rustyred
2014-01-08 23:04:49
^Ditto that^ Welcome to tagging! Cool shot. The red light illuminating the fence and bike frame looks cool against the grey/blue monochromatic background.
teamdecafweekend
2014-01-08 23:13:33
Nice, amyg. That should have been the tag photo: mysterious gray hemispheres, marching off into the distance... yinzer daleks on the move.
ahlir
2014-01-09 10:40:59
I had a feeling it was on Fifth, from the clue, but am now glad I didn't go out looking for it (also, it was really cold). Great to have a new player.
jonawebb
2014-01-09 10:44:19
I figured West Carson: one way inbound, construction, retaining wall. Fortunately I didn't go look.
steven
2014-01-09 12:11:39
Wash Boulevard is not fun to ride But come 'round this way, and you'll find a slower pace on this Boulevard with a magnolia tree that's not in a yard You'll see the flowers at Winter's end, while cruising through the lovely East End. Where this island sits, there's a bike lane nearby the Busway too, now give it a try.
amygdala
2014-01-09 23:24:28
N. Linden and Thomas Blvd in Point Breeze: loc: 40° 27.240', -79° 54.548' Not to be confused with the magnolia at McPherson, a block away. It didn't have any snow either. I was going to say something about how it was shaping up to be a beautiful day for a ride, with the temp already in the fifties and the clouds breaking up... But now it's raining; complete with lightning and thunderclap. Ah well.
ahlir
2014-01-11 08:04:04
Next Tag This is A21. Even though it's off by 10. If you know about A22, A23 and A24, this should be easy.
ahlir
2014-01-12 20:08:29
I became quite the wet wharf rat looking for this. No joy tho. :-(
randy
2014-01-14 09:09:17
I'll come up with a bona fide clue by evening. But you are correct in believing that wetness matters.
ahlir
2014-01-14 13:59:47
Still no clue on how to clue this out. I was out that way today after work, thinking that maybe I could get clever and get a snap of A24 for the clue. You know: a clue within a clue that might itself have been a tag and, uh, could then have turned into a whole meta-rama thing, full moon, etc. But try as I might, I could not find A24! Disaster. I was so sure that the A numbers aligned with streets... But I didn't give up. Back home I took to the Google. No trace. I did find this further up the street: Anyone you know? (Yes, the lights were green.) Anyway, here the clue: The object has a bar-code sticker. I didn't scan it but the human-readable bit says "ALCOSAN".
ahlir
2014-01-14 22:13:50
Under the 31rst Street bridge.
randy
2014-01-15 08:22:53
New Tag (admittedly, I didn't move the sticks far) As a self identifying hipster, it's nice to see even more bike shopping options in my zone.
randy
2014-01-15 08:36:52
Butler, 'twixt 38th and 39th.
ahlir
2014-01-15 19:05:15
New Tag: cryptic clue : FUEL→ for thought. uninformative clue : Do not drink this water, we have had our way with it. pointlessly convoluted clue : So yesterday I had this great idea for a visual clue but it involved riding out to A24, which I had the opportunity to do. I could not find it. I did see an object that was more or less the right thing on the Streetview but it was distorted, in that crappy-stitching way all too common in Streetview. So I went by there again today: the object really was gone. The (rather extensive) tract on which it bordered is being redeveloped (a warehouse was torn down and something new is going up, probably another warehouse). You know, sometimes you feel like you should always take snaps of interesting stuff, for no reason, just because it looks interesting. But you're lazy. Then later you regret not doing it? This was one of those times. I even remember that I had then roamed around some trying to find the A25, with no luck. Which brings us back to today's tag. If you look closely you will see that this object is an A-20Z. You will find several A20's around there, depending on the day of the week and on your scrupulousness with respect to No Trespassing signs. As tag, this one is specific. And it's completely accessible, and not just for the MTB crowd.
ahlir
2014-01-15 20:28:13
NOT A FIND. CONTINUE LOOKING I seem to have found A61. I don't understand how Alcosan number these things! Everything from the Casino down to Heinz on the North side of the Ohio and Allegheny are EVEN numbered (in the 40's, 50's and 60's). Then suddenly, there's A61.
rustyred
2014-01-16 09:19:33
I know I've seen a map of all the outflows, but I couldn't find it last night. My hunch is that it's on the city side of the Allegheny (the "A" is a strong hint), but I hardly ever go along there. My chances of getting over there in daylight in the next 48 hours are zero.
stuinmccandless
2014-01-16 21:23:25
Allegheny river @ 29th Time for hot chocolate
jonawebb
2014-01-18 10:37:32
I want to find tags I want to set tags I've been a player of Tag-o-Rama I've been to Fineview I've been to City view Keeps me searching for the next new tag And it's getting cold
jonawebb
2014-01-18 13:09:55
^Is that the new tag? is there a bike in the image?
teamdecafweekend
2014-01-19 21:25:05
TeamDecaf wrote:^Is that the new tag? is there a bike in the image?
It's probably up in the shrubbery somewhere. I actually passed by this (in a car, my bike's in the shop) today and thought about being a complete smartass and claiming the tag by getting Hubby to take a pic of me in front of this pole while I pretended to be on an invisible bike.
rustyred
2014-01-19 21:40:12
uh-oh. Now what? I think it's either a re-snap of this tag or my previous tag is live again... technically the latter since it's been 36h. On the other had it took a good while for anyone to notice the problem. Y'all have fun. I'm pretty sure I know where to find it but I'm out of town, again...
ahlir
2014-01-20 01:10:45
Well, it is the new tag. My bike is, indeed, up in the shrubbery. (Next to the benches.)
jonawebb
2014-01-20 08:18:06
We cant get enough of Polish Hill!
randy
2014-01-25 12:26:31
New tag, switched bikes. (what an awesome and scary ride)! Woody Harrelson made a mess here.
randy
2014-01-25 14:42:42
I was up at 6am this morning; hadn't believed it when being told that today would have snow. Surely not that early! But I snoozed, and I losed... The placard on the post displays a butterfly shape. This indicates a no-spray area (for herbicides); it's a park after all (and one of the odder ones in the city). Anyway, I like the new tag! But of course I'm compelled to note that the tagger pixilated the name of the establishment. This is not right. I thought we had agreed that doctoring images was not ok (unless it included a fabulous sunset, if I correctly recall Stephen's ruling on the last case). Whinging? Perish the thought! So let me add an (establishment related) clue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-kJqM7he9o And a version for the maybe impatient: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDL-gJmAniM
ahlir
2014-01-25 23:36:15
When Google's camera last went through Gold Way/Melwood, the post that now shows a butterfly instead had a sign "THIS PLAY AREA HAS BEEN CLOSED" with the rest obscured by graffiti. I'm not sure if they meant the whole park, or an area within it. We didn't add a "doctoring images prohibited" rule last time, but I think it was frowned upon, and Austin Powers-style obscuring was encouraged instead. On the other hand, it's COLD. Asking people to muck around for 15 minutes to create a perfect shot may be unreasonable.
steven
2014-01-26 00:20:50
I totally think obscuring names, addresses, etc. is Ok.
jonawebb
2014-01-26 07:27:20
I stand chastened before the tribunal... and apologize yet again for complaining. In my defense, I doubt it would take 15 min to find a shot in this case (or in any case). Besides, why would you want to spend time posing things? That's boring. Take a bunch of snaps then just pick one that looks good. That's what I do. Anyhow, I'll take all this as meaning that ToR has licensed the creation of perturbed images to augment its ongoing curation of found images contributed by the Pittsburgh bicycling community. Let's see what happens.
ahlir
2014-01-26 10:14:01
[duplicate deleted]
ahlir
2014-01-26 17:51:05
Hidys Cafe Talbot and Toner, in Rankin Had always figured that stretch was Braddock...
ahlir
2014-01-26 17:58:56
Late comment and maybe I'm visually impaired, but "bike" - "benches" ? I see neither in the original Polish Hill tag. Can anyone point them out to me?
teamdecafweekend
2014-01-26 22:02:06
I think the benches extend to the right from the bottom right corner of the butterfly sign. There's a hint of a round thing that could be a wheel leaning up against them, if you zoom in. I can't see the frame, so I assume it's either blending in really well, or made of transparent aluminum like Wonder Woman's invisible plane.* (* Take that, fictional universe!)
steven
2014-01-27 02:51:07
Steven has it right. The benches are up on the hill behind the butterfly sign. A nice place to sit and take in the view from Polish Hill in the summer, no doubt. And the bike is made of titanium so I guess it blends in. My phone resolution was set too low -- damn phone monkeys with the settings all the time.
jonawebb
2014-01-27 08:37:24
new tag: The name of the sculpture has the word "Steel" in it. (Yeah I know, about as useful a clue as "the guy on the 'bent with a beard"; gimme a break, ok.) It looks pretty peaceful but the avenues around it are pretty nasty, if you're a biker.
ahlir
2014-01-27 17:56:59
I admit, I'm blind (or heading in that direction).
teamdecafweekend
2014-01-27 21:37:33
on a bike? Careful.
ahlir
2014-01-27 21:43:38
Surely if a blind person can legally have a gun, they should also be able to operate a vehicle.
helen-s
2014-01-29 07:31:10
Are there any scientific studies showing riding while blind is dangerous?
jonawebb
2014-01-29 07:48:58
I think as long as you are wearing a helmet it is prob ok.
edmonds59
2014-01-29 08:09:56
Just noticed a small typo in my clue: "but the avenues around it are pretty nasty" should have been " but the Avenues around it are pretty nasty"
ahlir
2014-01-30 11:53:14
Sculpture in Mellon Park The next tag will be a little past the 36 hr limit. I have to take the photo during the day Saturday morn.
jonawebb
2014-01-30 18:54:41
One of Pittsburgh's nomadic sculptures Gloss: Steel Cityscape was originally at the City-county building in 1978, then was in a park where the David Lawrence Convention Center is now by 1985. It was painted purple at one point! I haven’t been able to find any pictures of its purple state or any mention of why it’s not purple anymore. Notes: 1) I happened to ride by there this evening on the way home from work (hey the weather was great, almost like summer; and I really needed a ride). Hardly any bike tracks in the park. This tag is next to what's a well traveled East Liberty — points east bikeway. Where's everyone? 2) Before snapping this one I checked up on Stephen's Googl-a-Map to make sure I wasn't duplicating an old tag remembered. I found two(!) earlier tags, of the other big piece in the park (exiled from the Squirrel Hill Library I now know). It's the same piece, but in two different locations! Is this whole nomadic sculpture thing creepier that I figured? Paging George Romero! Or, uh, Tony Buba?
ahlir
2014-01-30 21:09:10
Still, I Ride by Maya Campagnolou You may run me off the road With your two ton metal cage, You may push me into the very dirt But still, on my bike, I'll ride. Do my Spandex shorts upset you? Do I make you feel weak inside? 'Cause I need no oil wells pumping Black gunk to move me as I ride. Just like moons and like suns, With the certainty of tides, To the north and south and east and West, Still I'll ride. Did you want to see me broken? Scraped knees and injured eyes? Collarbone broken and asymmetric, Weakened by my soulful cries? Does my taking the lane offend you? Don't you take it awful hard 'Cause I laugh like I've got Shimano Making parts in my backyard. You may curse me from your driver’s seat, You may cut me off at lights, You may honk at me from feet behind, But still, on my bike, I'll ride. Does my assertiveness upset you? Does it come as a surprise That I ride like I’ve got titanium Running down my arms and thighs? Across the Commonwealth I ride Up Pittsburgh’s steepest hills I ride Passing near this tag on the GAP, On the way to the Southside. Though cold randonnée nights I ride Into a daybreak that's wondrously clear I ride On the roads that the wheelmen made, I am the dream and hope of every child with training wheels. I ride I ride I ride.
jonawebb
2014-02-01 10:35:32
Homestead, West St and 11 Ave. Community of the Crucified One residences(?).
ahlir
2014-02-01 13:08:57
across the street:That's St. Francis. I came down the Greys' Bridge and thought I would ride back along the GAP trail. The bit past the Sandcastle was snowed up though with a few tire tracks through it. I got lazy and went back up the bridge. It looks to be warm enough in the next few days to next to melt what's there.
ahlir
2014-02-01 13:24:10
next tag: Sitting here at the computer, I now realize that I could have snapped a much more powerful tag—just across the street. I mean, like, literally. Off-hand, I'm pretty sure that this place is not a blues bar.
ahlir
2014-02-02 18:00:56
gallery glass, liberty avenue near church brew works. i actually took this yesterday, but didn't really see the chance of going out and setting a new tag. but it's still here, so i guess i might as well.
hiddenvariable
2014-02-05 11:18:21
sorry to take so long, and to leave yet another tag on my commute, after picking one up on my commute, but this is all i have time for: NEW TAG! every new bit of infrastructure deserves a tag at some point, though, right?
hiddenvariable
2014-02-07 12:15:21
Gold way
jonawebb
2014-02-08 12:42:21
Shall I compare thee to a winter's day? Thou art more Loewly and more convenient. Rough winds do shake the icy Mon, And winter's lease hath all too long a date. Sometime too rough the Homestead bridge rides, And often is 20 degree weather found; And from every tire the air sometime declines, By a flat, or a slow leak, unpumped; But the game of Tag-o-Rama shall not fade, Nor stop tagging bicycle infrastructure, Nor shall death brag thou wand'rest in his shade, So long as thou lookest out for cars. So long as taggers play, and bikers ride, So long lives this, and so shall riders glide.
jonawebb
2014-02-09 19:18:26
It's the weather that's keeping anyone from picking this up, right? Or do you need another clue?
jonawebb
2014-02-17 10:18:30
A clue would help, but the weather would help more. I haven't been anywhere outside my well beaten path to and from my bus each morning & evening. Three days in a row will go by & I haven't even been on the board. I have a pretty good idea where this is, but until the weather breaks some, I'm not likely even to get on a bike, let alone explore.
stuinmccandless
2014-02-19 04:11:04
StuInMcCandless wrote:the weather would help more
You're missing the fun... this morning I biked down past a pickup truck parked to block off the road on a hill, my rear tire skipping a little as I braked on the ice, then past the guys waiting by the pickup truck at the bottom of the hill, their mouths agape. Being able to brake with just one wheel is a big advantage. But as to a clue, I think you'll find it a kick to pick up this tag as you catch up on the Oscar-nominated flicks.
jonawebb
2014-02-19 10:10:49
Burgatory under construction, Waterfront, Homestead
paulheckbert
2014-02-19 16:16:13
Yay Paul! Get those tags!
jonawebb
2014-02-19 16:20:00
new tag for sale, 13,250 square feet
paulheckbert
2014-02-19 20:47:56
Hint: what company put up the sign at lower right? Searchable database?
paulheckbert
2014-02-22 14:49:54
Not sure I'll have the time to fetch this one... But let me note that of the 5 or so tags within a couple of blocks of there, I've set or picked up 4. Sigh.
ahlir
2014-02-22 17:19:35
OK, got it figured out. Now, for a bike ride. Not happening tonight, though.
stuinmccandless
2014-02-22 19:36:51
St Mary Magdalene Church, Amity & 10th, Homestead. A very pleasant ride from McCandless, more riding on this one trip so far than I rode in all of February prior to this.
stuinmccandless
2014-02-23 12:40:39
Stu: you got it! Howard Hanna says Price: $159,000
paulheckbert
2014-02-23 13:48:51
New tag! [I'm having trouble getting the photo to appear. I think this Twitter link should get you to it, though.] https://twitter.com/bus15237/status/437665998427418624 As we get closer to springtime, be careful not to get burned out on environmental issues. Note: You should walk your bike to the exact spot. (I opted not to take a selfie, despite the graffitist's suggestion. My rack will have to do.)
stuinmccandless
2014-02-23 14:16:30
Let's try that photo again, now that I'm on a real computer and not an iPhone 4.
stuinmccandless
2014-02-23 20:57:00
Note from a neutral observer - I think pixelating some identifying material might be OK - if you at least point out that part of the pic is pixelated. There was case once, with a Frick Park sign where I had mentally ruled out the location becuse I thought it was just a fuzzy log, not a pixelated sign.
mick
2014-02-24 18:22:20
That's it, though my perspective was actually from the railing by the frog pond a few yards away.
stuinmccandless
2014-02-26 19:13:23
new tag hint: plaque says Historic Landmark, 1903
paulheckbert
2014-02-26 20:23:27
Carpatho-Rusyn Church, Dixon St, Homestead. My camera crapped out just as I took the photo. In desperation I used my video camera to capture the moment. http://youtu.be/9TS6bgLO3fE
jonawebb
2014-03-03 19:25:28
BTW, the Carpatho-Rusyn Church was a particularly prescient and apropos tag, the way things worked out. The long and winding road that leads to your door Will never disappear I've seen that road before it always leads me here Leads me to your door
jonawebb
2014-03-04 09:56:31
Waddaya think, guys, do we believe that the old building in Jon's marginal video is the same one I tagged?
paulheckbert
2014-03-04 18:22:17
Sure, assuming the place you tagged was in fact the Carpatho-Rusyn Church. (Though it seems to be technically the Carpatho-Rusyn Cultural Center, formerly the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist, and in Munhall, not Homestead. Unless there are multiple similar-looking Carpatho-Rusyn cathedrals in the area.)
steven
2014-03-04 20:23:51
For those of you who don't know, Paul has made a career out of noticing (and fixing) subtle defects in rendering. So I imagine he found my crappy video of the Carpatho-Rusyn cultural center profoundly offensive. Still, Munhall? Really? We need three boroughs (Whitaker, Munhall, and Homestead) between the Rankin and the Homestead High-Level bridge? Plus another, West Homestead, on the other side? When does the madness end?
jonawebb
2014-03-05 11:14:23
Surely you're not saying the concerns of the western half of the Petco in the Waterfront are precisely aligned with the concerns of the eastern half of the Petco in the Waterfront? Of course they need separate representation! To have it otherwise would invite anarchy, madness, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together! Hey, wait.
steven
2014-03-05 15:05:22
I think Jon's video proves that he photographed his bicycle in the snow leaning against an old stone building, in the dark. Does it demonstrate any more than that? We do not see the top of the building his bicycle was leaning against. Would a neutral observer, shown my photo and Jon's video in a "lineup" recognize them as photos of the same building? Maybe Jon just pedaled down to some building at Murray & Phillips and shot a bad video. Got some friend to put on a gorilla suit and make grunting noises in the woods...
paulheckbert
2014-03-05 17:05:57
Since Paul's been giving me a hard time i'm re-doing the tag pickup. Satisfied?
jonawebb
2014-03-08 10:27:15
Ha no that's not it. Here it is Today would be a good day to pick up my tag, don't you think? So here's another clue A famous chef is giving a kick Starting a place you can sit right down And have a meal while visiting this town
jonawebb
2014-03-08 10:52:03
sheesh. This is getting complicated. The last post shows the plaque on the original tag (in Homestead). The immediately preceding post is the new tag?
ahlir
2014-03-08 20:42:28
Yow. What was that? Ice pellets? More to the point, is this the (new) tag? (Forbes & Murray) Also, some kind of shindig across the street at the JCC: please, let it not be a ba* mitzvah...
ahlir
2014-03-08 21:11:45
I believe the current tag is the photo Jon posted on Mar 4 2014 at 9:56am, and further clued in a post on Mar 8 2014 at 10:52am. The subsequent photos were merely comic byplay. please, let it not be a ba* mitzvah… I was thinking the same thing, but it turns out it was a fund raiser.
steven
2014-03-09 00:57:25
ah well. serves me right for not checking more closely. (been out of town for a bit).
ahlir
2014-03-09 11:09:13
@Steven is exactly right.
jonawebb
2014-03-09 15:00:06
ok, got it. Good clues. But the first one now has me wondering about you. (can't get out there today, will try tomorrow; do post if you're going for it.)
ahlir
2014-03-09 17:11:47
Eighth and Braddock with campV.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-12 19:53:30
^ Something weird... I posted the image above yesterday and it disappeared somehow. Oh well, I may have deleted by accident.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-12 19:55:10
We added the purple gloves (campV donated them). We hope taking the picture doesn't bring on a curse. Four college-age-looking kids arrived at this tag location just moments after us. They were very patient and pleasant waiting for us to take our shots before they added their empty beer bottles. Seems this is a good spot for under age drinking.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-12 20:03:51
The seated "person" in our photo could be called a troll, if you consider where she lives.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-15 09:18:59
Oh, that's a person? I guess you can tell that I haven't seen this yet, and have no idea where this is.
stuinmccandless
2014-03-15 10:42:54
Troll under Charles Anderson Bridge, east end, Blvd of the Allies
paulheckbert
2014-03-18 14:35:24
So that's where that is. I'd noticed that years ago, and thought it was a hobo encampment. Maybe it was, then. Kind of cool to know it's there.
jonawebb
2014-03-18 15:50:08
new tag
paulheckbert
2014-03-18 19:57:09
Devon and Warwick Ter Pvt, near CMU. With campV and LindaP
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-22 10:53:57
Go to Devon and Warwick - you'll want to live there, it's a beautiful hidden neighborhood.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-22 17:13:56
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-22 17:15:26
Closer, Bonus Shot. With campV and LindaP
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-22 17:16:30
YAT. This one under the Bloomfield Bridge, along Gold Way/ Melwood. and congrats to Dan, campV and LindaP for actually climbing down to the sculpture; that's steep. The sculpture is not credited, as near as I can tell. Anyone know more?
ahlir
2014-03-23 13:11:14
A good clue to the artist, Ahlir, ^that is bolted to the concrete pad, next to the troll. Also, kind of interesting - there's a birds nest under the left leg of the troll.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-23 16:01:54
So you can see him from the front... well sort of the front. That was as far around the front as I could go. And yeah, it was steep and high above Skunk Hollow. Climbing around there was exhilarating, actually.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-23 16:07:09
Fastest tag pickup in a month and a half. Coincidentally, the last fast tag pickup was near that spot, on Gold Way.
jonawebb
2014-03-23 16:50:15
The Tag: Your Clue: Standing betwixt biscuits and buses, we all gaze wistfully towards... the Boulevard. This Photo: It's what's'all is called a "perturbed image". But all I did is run it through the Lomo filter in Picasa. Looks a whole lot better than that original I took.
ahlir
2014-03-23 17:07:25
ahlir
2014-03-26 14:16:23
Ah, that actually helps me figure out where to look. Now, if I could only drag myself out of bed at 4:30 a.m. to ride from the North Hills to that area with enough time to get my butt back downtown for work at 8am, I might have a shot at it. All assuming, of course, that I know where to go, which I still don't, really.
stuinmccandless
2014-03-26 16:49:54
That looks like the color scheme of a Home Depot in the background.
jmccrea
2014-03-26 18:38:50
Hm. I thought that was a pretty major clue. So, let's try this again. 1) That is not a Home Depot. Though, actually, there's one less than a mile away. 2) I cruised by on that ol' Google and discovered something interesting: the giraffe used to be somewhere else. Tell me if you want the hints to stop ...
ahlir
2014-03-27 16:22:30
Bakery Square with LindaP, Mikhail and Janie
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-27 17:29:32
Nice. I use that route regularly to bypass the annoying ELB/Penn intersection (esp. now, given the BS2 construction). Biker Tip: the pedestrian crossing button at Penn will trigger almost immediately.
ahlir
2014-03-28 11:40:51
NBD, but tagged before (551).
jonawebb
2014-03-28 11:48:22
NBD, but tagged before (551). Well, not quite. 551 is the elephant, which is still on the Penn Ave side of the development (and is now facing away from the factory building). The giraffe used to be in front, but now it's next to the cow/bull/? thing in the back. Someone must have had it in for the long neck... Fun Fact: Nabisco Animal Crackers never included a giraffe, I think for obvious reasons.
ahlir
2014-03-28 12:00:26
Ahlir wrote:Well, not quite.
In that case, the map is wrong -- or I'm misinterpreting it.
jonawebb
2014-03-28 12:19:59
I'm waiting to see a trombone next to the menagerie. Why a trombone? In Meredith Wilson's musical "The Music Man", there's a scene early in the show citing the demise of traveling salesmen (the players in that scene) as deriving from the Uneeda Biscuit, hence making the cracker barrel obsolete. Uneeda Biscuits were made in what became the old Nabisco (National Biscuit Company) factory. Later in the play, Professor Harold Hill goes on to sell a lot of brass musical instruments and sing the song "76 Trombones". You knew all that, right?
stuinmccandless
2014-03-28 13:09:35
Not the Uneeda/Nabisco Factory connection; neat! But it's Willson, two L's. Pittsburgh Filmmakers has an exhibit of photographs of faded building signs all over town in their Melwood gallery. One of them advertises Uneeda Biscuits. Some of the signs pictured there have been tags. Jon, I just moved the Bakery Square tag on the map to near its eastern corner. If that's still not right, please feel free to move it. (Log in to Google, go here, click page 4 at the bottom of the scrolling list, click Edit, drag the marker, click Save then Done.)
steven
2014-03-28 15:52:23
jonawebb wrote:
Ahlir wrote:Well, not quite.
In that case, the map is wrong — or I’m misinterpreting it.
Giraffe got moved. So map is correct -- it was there. And the current tag is correct -- it's a different place.
mikhail
2014-03-28 16:31:26
We had a blast picking up the giraffe tag, then we couldn't come up with an idea for a good new tag... So here's a sorta' lame tag. Your orders are to march out and grab it.
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-28 17:24:16
@TeamDecaf: Hint?
paulheckbert
2014-03-30 10:45:20
I guess my written hints weren't enough, this image should help...
teamdecafweekend
2014-03-30 10:54:58
Another step backwards...
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-01 11:52:17
Maybe I should have said... "your orders are to Run out and get this tag."
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-02 19:52:05
TeamDecaf wrote:Maybe I should have said… “your orders are to Run out and get this tag.”
Message sent. :)
mikhail
2014-04-02 22:12:45
I've ridden past that a bazillion times and never noticed it. I had no idea where this was.
stuinmccandless
2014-04-03 11:38:20
new tag a place I've written about
paulheckbert
2014-04-03 13:00:31
StuInMcCandless wrote:I’ve ridden past that a bazillion times and never noticed it. I had no idea where this was.
ha-ha, I have photo with my bike near date 10/06/2012. I've sent it to TeamDecaf since i did not want to publish it. :)
mikhail
2014-04-03 14:08:15
At the south-eastern end of the Glenwood Bridge. loc: 40.393178, -79.934606 Note that the original tag is not, uh, tagged. Look closely at the concrete just above the bike and you'll see that it's more or less the same place. One some urban landscape level kind of thing this is kind of cool, presuming it went up in the last day.
ahlir
2014-04-04 17:30:35
^ Better check Paul's hands for spray paint.
marko82
2014-04-04 19:52:25
What's the stuff all over the steps? Looks like gravel. Actually it looks more like eroded pieces of the steps. That can't be safe to walk on.
stuinmccandless
2014-04-04 19:56:28
Very interesting about the "tagged tag". About the junk on the steps, it's crumbling concrete that has fallen from cracks above. In April 2013 we swept these Glenwood Bridge stairs, so we know that all those chunks fell in the last year. Here's a photo from one month ago. The Pittsburgh Bridges website says that the bridge was built in 1966, it went through major rehabilitation and deck replacement in 2000, and it was field checked in May 2000. http://pghbridges.com/pittsburghE/0590-4472/glenwood.htm
paulheckbert
2014-04-04 23:42:46
I think "field checked" means when the author of the Pittsburgh Bridges website last went to the bridge to check the data. It's a property of the web page, not the bridge. Major bridges have to be inspected at least every 2 years, unless their owners apply to the feds for a 4-year cycle. It wouldn't surprise me if the Glenwood Bridge requires more frequent inspections than the basic 2 year cycle, especially given the crumbling concrete Paul reports.
steven
2014-04-05 01:08:57
The steps were fine; I went up them on my way back. The bit on top is not (yet) overgrown, which was nice. My brother the civil engineer once was visiting and we were driving around. He was aghast at the state of bridges and walls around here: once concrete has rotted down to the rebar the structure is more or less done for (think rust etc). Let me not belabor the point, but this November remember which political party has resisted putting money into maintaining our infrastructure (let alone improving it). They are not your friend.
ahlir
2014-04-05 10:31:31
The Tag: The Clue: I've always wondered how Pittsburgh landmarks were designated. For example there's the Incline... and then there's this.
ahlir
2014-04-06 12:41:55
Coffey Way and Sixth LindaP and campV
vcampbell
2014-04-06 17:04:42
Yay!
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-06 18:38:14
New Tag The Dutch derivation "dodoor' meaning 'sluggard' will not apply to the crafty person who finds this dodo. campV and lindaP
vcampbell
2014-04-06 18:42:45
Just to elaborate, that's the front of the Duquesne Club. Where our local oligarchs hang out...
ahlir
2014-04-06 19:24:19
Another clue would be nice. Just a suggestion (not a rule; the rules of Tag-o-Rama are as ancient and immutable as the laws of physics): if a tag isn't picked up a couple of days after the last clue, a new clue is in order.
jonawebb
2014-04-10 08:22:57
Children love these and sometimes need this place.
vcampbell
2014-04-10 15:46:51
"Connections", Chilldren's hospital
jonawebb
2014-04-10 19:21:19
Sixteen tags and whaddaya get Another year older and closer to Webb If you look for this it might help to know It's back behind a big box store
jonawebb
2014-04-11 18:19:27
Waterfront at Loews
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-12 14:58:06
Yes, it is a 12,000 ton hydraulic press. They used it to form billets of steel into battleship armor. All of Homestead would shake when it came down. 24,000,000 pounds of force.
jonawebb
2014-04-12 16:07:08
Yah!!! Team Decaf
vcampbell
2014-04-12 16:21:10
Any idea what year the press was built? It is an amazing behemoth, beautiful and telling of its era. Lowe's not Loews
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-12 20:59:07
The Loews is at the other end of the mall. This end has the Lowe's. There's an interpretive sign next to the press. A web page reports that it says: This 12,000-ton hydraulic forging press is the only susrviving turn of the century heavy steel forging press in America. Installed in 1903, it doubled the Homestead Works' armor plate capacity and enabled the mill to become one of the United States Navy's largest suppliers of steel for the next fifty years. Many World War II battleships were outfitted with armor plate from this press, including the USS Missouri--the ship on which the Japanese signed the articles of surrender that ended the War. The 12,000-ton press could squeeze billets of steel weighing up to 780,000 pounds into 18" thick plate. The enormous force it exerted created deep, thundering reverberations that could be felt throughout Homestead.
steven
2014-04-13 00:40:30
That's also the best way to the Homestead Grays bridge from the GAP trail. Maybe to the rest of the GAP trail too, I don't know. You avoid the fast traffic on the too-wide Waterfront Drive.
jonawebb
2014-04-13 08:32:18
This is Spring? Today felt more like summer.
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-13 19:25:56
That’s also the best way to the Homestead Grays bridge from the GAP trail. Not to sound all that fusty, but I submitted that route to Google Maps as a bike route a couple of years ago. And it was accepted! But then... it disappeared. The rules say that you'd get an appeal. Never happened. How does Google decide who to listen to? (A rhetorical question.) Pro tip: going west, cut over to the traffic light through the parking lot. It beats trying to merge into the traffic at the nominal junction.
ahlir
2014-04-13 19:57:17
Ahlir wrote:The rules say that you’d get an appeal. Never happened.
Sounds kind of whiny to me. Isn't there a rule against whining here? Anyway, sometimes you really have to whip Google into shape. I had a heck of a time getting them to unlist the fenced-off trail past the Carrie Furnace west of the Rankin Bridge. (It was messing up all bike routing between Braddock and the Waterfront.) Finally got them to do it after reporting it as an error, not trying to edit the map myself. Paul H. has stories about arguing with them about the Steel Valley trail. He's also responsible for that odd non-existent zigzag on the GAP near Kennywood; the result of a failed editing attempt. But I haven't gone back to check if the Carrie Furnace trail has reappeared.
jonawebb
2014-04-14 13:45:27
Anyhoo, looking at the map, I see your suggested route, @ahlir. You have to zoom in a little in the bicycling view.
jonawebb
2014-04-14 14:55:12
Ah, indeed. Actually, I proposed it as a full-fledged bike route. (It was early on, what did I know.) It disappeared. At some point it seems to have come back, as a "friendly" route. Also looks like they turned the sidewalk along Waterfront into a trail. How does that work? I haven't noticed that magnification dependency before. That's neat. I think. Finally: It's my posting and I'll whine if I want to
ahlir
2014-04-14 18:50:48
29 degrees, 32 degrees, whatever, it's still Spring.
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-16 20:01:46
I could use another hint on the current tag.
stuinmccandless
2014-04-17 14:03:46
I know exactly where it is, and will pick it up I think Saturday morning if someone doesn't get there first... Of course, since it's sort of in Stu's neck of the woods, maybe he'll beat me. Which would be like hitting a homer.
jonawebb
2014-04-17 14:26:55
Zoom in on this image and the location lies within.
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-17 14:40:33
and oh, don't bother googling, it's not on street view
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-17 14:42:44
Ah, I see where it is now. And I should have known it, since I searched all over tarnation to pick up Tag 744 a few feet away last summer. OK, everyone, that should pin it down pretty closely. My chances of making it over there in the next hour are almost zero, and chances of picking it up on Friday are slimmer still.
stuinmccandless
2014-04-17 16:30:13
^Cool how the golden hour lit (lighted?) the "Spring Hill" portion of the mural. Nice shot.
teamdecafweekend
2014-04-17 20:54:08
new tag One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination
paulheckbert
2014-04-17 21:58:41
Martin Luther King Warren K. Branch Park loc: 40.439663, -79.973528 The clue is a quote from MLK. WKB was a private who fought in WWII.
ahlir
2014-04-18 10:55:24
Good point. Sorry about jumping to conclusions re WKB. Oddly, there's not much on the web about this person. But I did find this OCR from the Aug 28, 1948 Pittsburgh Courier: To (as Editor: I am writing In regards to ."Dark Laughter." I think It is hold back to aa up and com ing group of people. It portrays all of the simple things expected of our race. I would like to sug gest a comlo short that will boost the race and not picture them splitting verbs. CORP. WARREN K. BRANCH Tampa, Fla.
ahlir
2014-04-18 14:56:31
New Tag Though I'm told that polo might be ok; sorry, not the marco kind.
ahlir
2014-04-18 18:21:29
Bike polo grounds, arsenal park
jonawebb
2014-04-19 09:16:49
The warm weather led me to take a ride And drop a tag beyond the South Side A race car builder owns this place His habits and Industry let him set the pace On the all neighborhoods ride he took us around And when we got here we had a chance to settle down
jonawebb
2014-04-19 18:25:09
I think I know when this is but I haven't had a chance to head over there yet...
ted
2014-04-23 10:27:18
@Ted, good! Do it!
jonawebb
2014-04-23 11:52:21
Industry St & Asteroid Way, Allentown.
ted
2014-04-24 11:41:46
I'm sorry that my upload is not Instagram or Vine, but if you climb the right Hill this staircase you will find
ted
2014-04-24 22:21:54
jonawebb wrote:Though I’m told that polo might be ok; sorry, not the marco kind.
Actually, it's not the polo court, that's in the same park, but down the hill next to the baseketball court. These are the newly refinished tennis courts, and they don't want us playing polo or people playing street hockey there. And that's ok, we have another court for that.
benzo
2014-04-25 07:51:48
Oh, so tempting. I can see it from where I work. If I hadn't gotten in so late this morning, I might be tempted to run out and get it right now.
stuinmccandless
2014-04-25 11:07:15
Abandoned (Orthodox) church, corner of Reed and Vine in Uptown. loc: 40.440194, -79.983884 Postscript: This is (originally) St. Michael's Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Church, built 1903–1910. Bonus fact: it's apparently on the PHLF list of Historic Landmarks. But I don't get the name. Russian Orthodox and Greek Catholic are two distinct religions. A (contemporary) source identifies it as Russian Orthodox. Maybe at some point it got sold to those Catholics...
ahlir
2014-04-25 16:36:25
your new tag: It was a nice day so I went for a ride... Anyway here's where I ended up, still inside the city limits but just. Snapped at 4:26pm. To get you in the mood try this
ahlir
2014-04-26 17:27:05
Looks like rain until maybe Thursday. I won't do clues until then. If you just totally know where this is and just lost track of your rain gear, post.
ahlir
2014-04-28 19:36:15
I went out looking for it yesterday, unsuccessfully, but got to spend some time in some amazingly wild country that I never knew existed. Then today I figured it out. But need better weather to pick it up.
jonawebb
2014-04-28 19:43:17
Great! I had hoped it would a nice Sunday + great weather sort of day for a tag hunt... I don't know where you went, but I like this tag area, lots of cool stuff to see.
ahlir
2014-04-28 20:00:37
I have a hunch I know where it is, but it's 20 miles from the house and 10 from where I work. @ejwme, where are you these days? I think this is right down-up the street from your house.
stuinmccandless
2014-04-28 22:26:47
This is mildly OT, but if you're participating in the "National Bike Challenge", note that we have a Tag-O-Rama team. It's open to everybody. You don't have to be a player or anything else (well, other that a bike rider I guess). Go to their website to find out more, or check out the NBC thread that's currently running on this board. https://nationalbikechallenge.org/ If you use Endomondo or MapMyRide you can connect to the NBC and your data will be uploaded automatically. Tag-O-Rama had a team least year and we did pretty well. I just checked and we're already number one in Piitsburgh!!! (fine print: this is only the first day of the NBC and it's still early in the day.)
ahlir
2014-05-01 09:34:31
Woot! #1 with 5 miles ridden!
jonawebb
2014-05-01 09:49:19
Verona Blvd, Lincoln-Lemington, and view of Sunset View Cemetery and Blawnox
paulheckbert
2014-05-02 13:28:14
Good pickup! loc: 40.475812, -79.888810 And that white line on the hill in the distance is Rt. 28...
ahlir
2014-05-02 14:04:27
It's not visible on Streetview but nicely visible from the satellite. https://goo.gl/maps/o9e8a BTW the wild area I ended up exploring while looking for this tag was the woods next to Allegheny River Boulevard. If you go through the parking lot right here you can climb up a hill and see some incredibly empty areas wedged between some suburbs and the golf course.
jonawebb
2014-05-02 14:22:35
Ah, sorry about that. I was hoping that the "just inside the city limits" clue would preclude people going out to Verona. No longer a follow-up clue: "if you start hearing this song, you've gone too far".
ahlir
2014-05-02 16:14:11
new tag
paulheckbert
2014-05-02 16:27:00
713 staircase streets in the city, but only a couple that look like that. Sounds like I'm going to have to get creative on my way into work next week, if nobody else knows exactly where this is. Boy, do I wish I'd gotten a copy of Bob Regan's spreadsheet when I had the chance. Which was Sept 8, 2000, at Cal.U., where we each gave presentations on our GIS projects. The steps research was his. This was before he wrote his book. Mine was about signal capture before/after the GPS dithering was turned off May 2, 2000. So, hey, that's 14 years to the day since accurate GPS signals have been available to Joe Citizen.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-02 16:52:44
That's a pretty unique stairs... is it meant to be self-cluing?
ahlir
2014-05-02 19:19:06
Study your Greeks, both writers and deities. OK, maybe Roman, but if Greek would be hard to miss.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-02 23:34:49
@ahlir: "Ah, sorry about that." Not a problem. Since I achieved tag-hegemony I've been a bit more relaxed about the whole thing. I knew the tag was in the Pittsburgh city limits, but didn't look at the map for Pittsburgh's boundary, thinking it probably extended to Verona. I was happy to discover that canyon.
jonawebb
2014-05-03 08:25:34
What Stu said, plus: crude, bald, overweight, incompetent, clumsy, lazy, a heavy drinker, and ignorant.
paulheckbert
2014-05-03 08:41:46
Diana, raining arrows down upon Homer, Spring Hill. loc: 40.462498, -79.989012 Hymn 27, Homer: I sing of Artemis, whose shafts are of gold, who cheers on the hounds, the pure maiden, shooter of stags, who delights in archery, own sister to Apollo with the golden sword. Over the shadowy hills and windy peaks she draws her golden bow, rejoicing in the chase, and sends out grievous shafts. ... (Diana ~= Artemis)
ahlir
2014-05-03 10:58:08
Ha, Bruced
jonawebb
2014-05-03 11:14:34
Artemis is hard to miss.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-03 11:21:36
You didn't climb the stairs with your bicycle! Disappointed! :)
paulheckbert
2014-05-03 11:36:02
You didn’t climb the stairs with your bicycle! True. But I did steam up to the headwaters of the Rhine, then let the zephyrs gently carry me down Homer.
ahlir
2014-05-03 11:52:23
Ha, Bruced Not "D'oh! - Homer"?
steven
2014-05-03 12:03:28
a new tag! No more climbing! This little sucker is right downtown. You should be able to get it today, I think. But early tomorrow morning you'll probably need either an all-areas pass, a number, or $90 for the VIP Package.
ahlir
2014-05-03 14:31:41
I looked all around downtown for over an hour. I found four Toynbee tiles I didn't know existed, but I didn't find this. Guess I'll have to try again on Monday!
stuinmccandless
2014-05-03 19:23:44
I assume those are the same four tiles in the 2006 PG article about them: Oliver and Smithfield (two), Smithfield and Forbes, Forbes and Ross. The upside of our relaxed paving schedule, I guess. We've lost 2 of 6 to repaving since they first appeared downtown about 20 years ago.
steven
2014-05-03 23:27:04
There are a bunch that say 2012, including a couple on Blvd of the Allies. I messed up on a tag pick-up just a few months ago involving one of the newer ones. If this is a Toynbee, I have not researched it. In any event, I walked the bike through the marathon's VIP areas and and rode up and down various streets and Point State Park but did not see it. Now that I'm seeing the image on a nice big desktop screen and not my iPhone, I can see that it's on old concrete, so it's one that's probably been there quite a while.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-04 10:31:36
Pittsburgh has Toynbee, House of Hades and also the one I tagged, from yet another scheme. The clue involving the Marathon was meant to be pretty specific.
ahlir
2014-05-04 14:58:24
Ha! I know exactly where that is!
rustyred
2014-05-05 12:46:50
gopher it!
ahlir
2014-05-05 13:15:26
NEW TAG: One Dahntahn tile deserves another.
rustyred
2014-05-06 08:09:05
Because of all my riding research on Saturday, I know exactly where this is. But no bicycle today.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-06 09:20:27
A House of Hades at Blvd of the Allies and Cherry Way loc: 40.437514, -79.999400
ahlir
2014-05-06 19:02:22
Some notes on the street art: 1) The Forbes and Ross Toynbee disappeared in the last two years: they repaved(*). I would suppose that Boy Mayor (and/or his commissioner of public art) were otherwise occupied at the time. I'm hoping that Peduto and his whatever are more attentive to such things, particularly as Smithfield has by far the largest number of these artifacts and it's due to be transformed into a bicycle road. While this isn't really a biking thing, it would be good to have some organisation put in a word for this stuff. Any ideas? 2) At this point in time Pittsburgh has more Hades than Toynbee or Stikman. I've been wondering why this might me... Did someone live here for a while? 3) For some reason these things are hard to spot, even if you know they're there. Cars waiting for a light on top of them doesn't help. Toynbee and Stikman are carefully placed in proximity to crosswalks: pedestrians have the opportunity to enjoy them. Hades is a bit inconsistent; a number of them would not be visible if cars were waiting for a light. (*) I checked StreetView. Right now if you're cruising up Ross you see the Toynbee (2012). If you approach along Forbes, you don't (2013).
ahlir
2014-05-06 20:29:15
next up: Just slightly off a beaten path. But of kindness, and a mother's.
ahlir
2014-05-06 21:48:20
Otto Milk Condos, across Smallman from Wigle Whiskey EDIT: Whoops, wrong side! Does it count?
mrdestructicity
2014-05-07 17:14:06
Of course it counts. You just need to demonstrate that you were (more-or-less) at the actual location. Originally I had the following crop in mind, but then figured I ought to make it a bit more obvious: I actually hadn't even taken into account the entrance that you snapped (a classic snooze&lose). [WHOA! Picasa reused the original tag url!!! Sorry about that.]
ahlir
2014-05-07 17:35:38
NEW TAG! This should be an easy get, it's in an area that's seen plenty of tags before. Not as hearty as bishop, perhaps. But then again, not as bland as curate, either.
mrdestructicity
2014-05-08 12:07:10
E. Carson St. at 19th loc: 40.428677, -79.979245 This was an interesting one. From the architecture it seemed like Carson, but nothing like it was showing up. Then I realized the street scene was a mirror image...
ahlir
2014-05-08 18:35:21
tag This thing somehow reminds me of a Benjamin, at least in the sense that it's Exterior... yes, in a perennially tagged district.
ahlir
2014-05-08 19:00:08
OT Pub Chip Shop has legit Cornish Pasties. Should one so be inclined and have a hankering for such.
ka_jun
2014-05-09 08:01:27
^ Cornish Pasties - hahaa! Are you sure that's not at Blush?
teamdecafweekend
2014-05-09 15:58:07
Yes, Blush, famous for its Cornish pasties and Welsh tarts. But seriously, not a typo.
mrdestructicity
2014-05-10 03:16:55
Yes, it's a real thing. Pronounced like "past" not "paste."
jonawebb
2014-05-11 08:23:45
Cigar Factory, 27th and Smallman, Strip District.
rustyred
2014-05-13 08:07:40
NEW TAG! This towers above Liz.
rustyred
2014-05-14 07:37:04
Civil War Memorial, Allegheny Commons, overlooking Lake Elizabeth loc: 40.453061, -80.012476
ahlir
2014-05-14 18:03:20
new tag In the old days you were not allowed to Hunt around here.
ahlir
2014-05-14 18:20:37
Somehow I failed to take a picture when I was there today. I'll try again tomorrow.
ted
2014-05-15 20:38:22
Heinz Lofts, Heinz and Progress. Apparently I did get the photo, but my phone has this cool bug where it will only show you a certain number of photos; to see more recent ones you have to delete old ones. So here's yesterday in the rain: And this morning:
ted
2014-05-16 09:02:36
rainy day, dream away... I like the yesterday pic.
ahlir
2014-05-16 09:32:15
^yesterday, could be Paris. :)
edmonds59
2014-05-16 11:46:34
With the enantiomorph of this staircase getting posted recently, I couldn't help myself. @Stu, how many of these are there? I can't think of any other than these two.
ted
2014-05-17 21:50:16
whoa!
paulheckbert
2014-05-17 22:03:23
:-)
paulheckbert
2014-05-17 23:10:16
Paul, you must supply an address.
jonawebb
2014-05-18 12:27:52
AND it has to be a new photo. Judging from the lack of foliage in Paul's photo it wasn't taken recently.
mrdestructicity
2014-05-18 16:06:21
Actually I don't think it's intended as a tag pickup. Paul just posted a mirror image of his other tag drop.
jonawebb
2014-05-18 16:18:45
Planet st steps
jonawebb
2014-05-18 17:48:11
A symmetrical Bruce! and my phone sez "taken 5:36pm"
ahlir
2014-05-18 20:34:28
Right. My photo is lacking vines and a green handrail and it has two sets of horizontal "stretchers", not one, and those disqualify it. On the other hand, it has the bicycle in the preferred pose.
paulheckbert
2014-05-19 00:51:36
I think I know of at least one more beyond those.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-19 05:50:55
This tag has dense Layers of paint, at this place that charges high rents And rewards work that is intense With paper handed out in tents
jonawebb
2014-05-19 20:15:37
The Fence at Carnegie Mellon loc: 40.442300, -79.943452 Broadly, Artwork by the Taiwanese Student's Assoc.
ahlir
2014-05-20 09:50:39
a tag, for you: and a clue: I tell you: I see a face right there! Or maybe it's the Dunkel.
ahlir
2014-05-20 18:46:35
Steel ingots, South Side Riverfront Park, near Hofbrauhaus
paulheckbert
2014-05-21 11:28:49
New tag
paulheckbert
2014-05-21 11:39:37
yowse... the water level is seriously high.
ahlir
2014-05-21 13:39:52
hint: is there software that lets you fly anywhere and see the land from that point of view?
paulheckbert
2014-05-23 11:10:33
Oh. That river. OK, I see where this is now. (This is not a response to the post just above. I just was on my lunch break and decided to see if anyone had figured this out yet.) So I guess the question now is whether I want to get my wheels sandy or take the long view.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-23 11:16:54
i went out there this morning and couldn't get the right view. I have a feeling it's not exactly on a publicly accessible road. If it is accessible maybe a clue about how to get there would be helpful.
jonawebb
2014-05-24 17:34:35
As the picture suggests, you're indeed close to a power line, at the top of a steep slope. This spot is about 60 feet from an asphalt road. Private, I suppose.
paulheckbert
2014-05-24 19:19:35
Behind Longvue Country Club with campV
teamdecafweekend
2014-05-25 09:52:18
For this tag, we viewed the river from the other side.
teamdecafweekend
2014-05-25 16:54:36
Wow, that's a pretty cool looking art installation. With that much detail this tag should be easy to find... oh, wait.
jaysherman5000
2014-05-25 18:11:52
was that photo for real?
paulheckbert
2014-05-28 00:28:50
^If you're talking about the "Arrow Tag," yes, of course it's real. Find it under a structure built to span physical obstacles such as a body of water, valley, or road.
teamdecafweekend
2014-05-28 07:31:30
Wow, I actually thought that art was some computer graphics added to the image. My apologies. Now if I can just find the lone bridge in the area that has art under it. I mean, how many bridges can there be in Pittsburgh...
jaysherman5000
2014-05-28 10:55:36
I think I've got it figured out, and plan to pick it up after tonight's Ride of Silence (if it's still open). If you want to join me for a group pick up let me know.
jonawebb
2014-05-28 11:25:24
I have a hunch I know where it is, too. I also plan to be at tonight's Ride of Silence.
stuinmccandless
2014-05-28 11:27:04
Under the William Flynn bridge
jonawebb
2014-05-28 20:20:35
Which is the William Flynn Bridge? (And should it be "Flinn"?) Pittsburgh had a William Flinn after whom the William Flinn Highway (Route 8, often misspelled "Flynn") is named. He was a Pittsburgh politician and construction magnate in the late 19th century, his company built the Liberty, Wabash, and Armstrong tunnels, also the Holland Tunnel (NY-NJ), was famously corrupt, had an estate at Beechwood Farms, and he's buried in Homewood Cemetery. His daughter had an estate at Hartwood Acres. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Flinn
paulheckbert
2014-05-28 22:11:36
That's actually the Fleming Bridge, aka 62nd Street Bridge, though it carries what was once the William Flinn Highway (aka Route 8), which was apparently officially renamed for Rick Cessar in 2001. The tag is on South Main on the north side of the river, between the two sets of steps up to the bridge.
steven
2014-05-29 05:40:41
Thanks for the correction. It was late and I was confused re William Flynn/Flinn/Fleming. Our house is a very very fine house With new tags in the yard Life used to be so hard Now everything is easier 'cause of you
jonawebb
2014-05-29 08:41:35
Coriander, an Indian restaurant on Murray and Douglas in Squirrel Hill; side wall. loc: 40.432788, -79.922812 Some South Asians I know don't really think much of this place; they claim it's not quite authentic. But, speaking as a North American, I've found the food to be pretty good. This is the only place I know that has Chinese-Indian dishes on the menu (you know, kind of like Chinese-American); I've has a couple of those dishes but it just seems Indian to me (I was told that the term means a combination of Chinese ingredients and Indian seasonings).
ahlir
2014-05-29 17:39:32
I didn't think I would make it today... I have a cold and it had been a long day at work. And I still had this tag to set. It was enough to make me want to drown my sorrows. The only thing I had missing was my bottle. Sigh.
ahlir
2014-05-30 19:31:20
East End Brewery, with campV
teamdecafweekend
2014-06-01 10:52:59
This tag might be a bit hard to find so I've included 2 images of the sculpture in this neighborhood named after a cartoon cat.
teamdecafweekend
2014-06-01 15:42:52
Garfield; N. Pacific and Gretna Way. loc: 40.468565, -79.939082 So I go to myself: "Great. Another climber, and Garfield to boot. How do I do this with the least effort? I know! Up Black then Aiken; no prob." Hah.
ahlir
2014-06-01 17:59:02
I know! Up Black then Aiken; no prob.” Hah. A granny gear special !
vcampbell
2014-06-01 20:24:55
At last. A tag anyone and everyone can get. It's on the plateau; you don't have to climb. Sadly it was closed when I went by; I got the impression that they were maybe gone for good. But just one block away there's a barbecue place, with chicken always on the grill. A musical clue The clue has a minor spelling issue. But hey, I like this tune. [note: I had to play with the contrast a bit to get the red to pop. Other than that it's what you see.]
ahlir
2014-06-02 11:25:52
Nice music, but the clue didn't help (me) much
paulheckbert
2014-06-04 11:19:39
Well, let's review the tag. The pic: There's a double-yellow line on the street, so it's probably not all that off the beaten path. The sign on the post indicates that the street gets cleaned by the city (well, you know) and is thus within city limits. The clue: The location is on the plateau, which to me means somewhere in that wide arc of flattish terrain that stretches from Oakland to Regent Square. The music: Glad you liked it. Here's a different tune. Hope you also like it. The song title references the name of the alley adjoining the building (sorry, it's not that obvious in the pic). The song title and alley name sound pretty much the same if you speak them out loud. I'll post an additional clue when I get home (if you need it).
ahlir
2014-06-04 15:26:34
Home, and only a bit damp... Next clue: You may be surprised to know that this tag is on a street that's really quite pleasant to ride. For example, if you go up a little ways you start to see sharrows!
ahlir
2014-06-04 16:41:25
Fleury and Dallas I've ridden past this innumerable times and the tag seemed familiar but I just couldn't bring it to mind.
jonawebb
2014-06-04 17:57:57
Bruced.
paulheckbert
2014-06-04 18:47:39
Good job. But now I have a sad: I didn't get to float this next clue... Amazingly, this alley is one of six alleys in a row, and all their names begin with the same sound!
ahlir
2014-06-04 18:48:33
The clue I was thinking of: this is where Marc-André meets the Stars.
paulheckbert
2014-06-04 20:01:21
@paulheckbert: nice teeth. Sadly I wasn't that clever (no longer being a hockey buff; I got out of my depth soon after pee-wee. But hey, but at least I remember Jacques Plante in the playoffs. And Key Dryden on my college team). But now you have me wondering: what was the key bit of clue for you?
ahlir
2014-06-04 20:05:29
New tag Back in the day Marijuana users would say When my clothes are gray This is where I pay To wash them clean and gay Because it's not far from our way
jonawebb
2014-06-05 18:16:15
"Time" is a clue Remember the clocks that go "cuckoo"?
jonawebb
2014-06-08 08:51:31
I rode all over Uptown and the Hill this afternoon, looking for this without success.
stuinmccandless
2014-06-08 19:36:48
I didn't mean this to be so slow But just so you know Head South on the plateau
jonawebb
2014-06-09 09:02:24
Time to Wash Laundromat, corner of Swissvale and South, Wilkinsburg. loc: 40.439640, -79.879039 lesson (re)learned: always  go that extra block...
ahlir
2014-06-09 13:34:01
Yeah, it's two blocks from Stoner Way. I figured they would probably be willing to walk that far...
jonawebb
2014-06-09 13:53:10
a tag! I would hazard that pretty much everyone on this board knows this foot, and has glanced at it on various occasions. Can you put your finger(s) on it?
ahlir
2014-06-10 10:55:35
kaushik
2014-06-10 11:10:46
whoa. that was quick! Good job.
ahlir
2014-06-10 11:15:49
New tagger, too! Welcome!
jonawebb
2014-06-10 11:28:16
and to think that I had my choice of feet... (Dippy is missing a couple of toenails. But why?)
ahlir
2014-06-10 11:51:16
Thanks jonawebb! Here's the next tag. This is an awesome taqueria. It would be perfect with some palm trees up front. Extra credit for a picture of the taco guy when you pick up the tag ;)
kaushik
2014-06-10 13:59:12
Oooh, I know where I'm going for dinner.
rustyred
2014-06-10 14:26:32
(Dippy is missing a couple of toenails. But why?) No idea, but I'm disappointed you didn't call it a toe tag.
steven
2014-06-10 15:51:16
Dang it, I got distracted.
rustyred
2014-06-10 19:31:14
I thought for sure that I'd get bruced on this one... On Atwood, between Sennott and Bates in Oakland. loc: 40.439045, -79.955110 This is a cool taco stand. One literally cool thing about it is that they would stay open during cold weather, during the winter.
ahlir
2014-06-11 17:02:26
It may be Tornado Watching and Severe Thunderstorm Warning out there. But this is Tagging. First off, to save you the effort of looking it up, "for the pursuit of scientific research to benefit mankind" does not show up on the google or the bing. I know, it's disappointing. That wall is not on Street View either. I too always figured that the web gave us the sum of all human knowledge. I now know that I was mistaken. Anyway, I really like this tag. It's located at the entrance to an important building, probably dating from the golden age of Pittsburgh prosperity. If you go to the movies you might have noticed this wall (certainly the building), in at least a couple of films. What I find particularly appealing are those traces left by some feckless smoker(s): Note the scruffs on the right: someone is used to leaning against the wall while they smoke. (What is it that smokers think about when they stand around and puff? I've always wondered, but I've never asked.) After they're done they stub the butt against the wall then they (hopefully) drop it into the receptacle on the left. I think they're right handed. On occasion they use that spot on the border of the inscription (well, maybe only one of them does it). Life is like that. Full of choices, sometimes the right ones. Anyway, don't end up in Oz!
ahlir
2014-06-11 18:36:42
" (What is it that smokers think about when they stand around and puff? I’ve always wondered, but I’ve never asked.)" Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I smoked a pack a day, if I was by myself, I was usually thinking about how nice it was not to be at my desk/answering the help line/in front of the grill. Financial and health costs aside, it was really nice to have a socially acceptable excuse to get the hell away from whatever I was being paid to do for a few minutes every hour or two.
reddan
2014-06-11 21:10:13
Mellon Institute entrance on 5th
kaushik
2014-06-12 09:52:54
600MB was a lot of disk space back then. I think the last PC I had at Westinghouse (1994) had a 540MB hard drive and 6MB memory.
stuinmccandless
2014-06-12 15:30:24
Ha, you and your 6 MB of memory. When I was in school, the computer for the whole campus -- research and admin -- was an IBM 360/65, with 256 KB of memory. While I was there working as a student assistant, we got an upgrade of 512 KB -- the size of a double refrigerator! -- 6 feet away from the CPU. And we liked it that way.
jonawebb
2014-06-12 15:35:23
I remember the first time I got to use the tele-type in college instead of having to use punch cards - it was heavenly.
marko82
2014-06-12 15:44:39
This house is pretty narrow — my bike is longer than it is wide at this end! You’ll have to search across the lanes of squirrel hill to smoke this out.
kaushik
2014-06-13 12:00:14
Forward at Eldridge, Squirrel Hill loc: 40.429511, -79.922104
ahlir
2014-06-13 15:56:19
I see you tag and I raise you one: Literally. This one you will find at the top of a Hill.
ahlir
2014-06-13 16:12:18
Bah, bruced, and by less than 15 minutes. Maduro Smoke Shop, 5835 Forward Ave, SqHill.
stuinmccandless
2014-06-13 16:15:40
Bigelow and Herron
jonawebb
2014-06-13 19:34:41
...and after all that, the stupid photo didn't load... Well, I did get over 30 miles in today. So there's that.
stuinmccandless
2014-06-13 20:35:04
Surely the Cheryl is known to all Who read this bboard, get on the ball And pick up this tag, the summer is dragging You can get a point, don't be lagging
jonawebb
2014-06-16 15:38:22
Careful biographical research on Cher revealed...
paulheckbert
2014-06-18 17:55:38
Cheryls (she-sharrows) 355 Negley near Baum
paulheckbert
2014-06-18 17:57:26
Thanks for being brave and laying your bike in the street.
jonawebb
2014-06-18 20:07:18
new tag hint: ice shelf
paulheckbert
2014-06-18 21:00:33
For knees? [in PHL, alas...]
ahlir
2014-06-18 21:38:27
hint: Diana and the Supremes hint: cemeteries nearby hint: Penn Hills
paulheckbert
2014-06-20 08:39:18
Well, that was easy. But my chances of getting out that way before Sunday are zero, and on Sunday, near zero.
stuinmccandless
2014-06-20 09:05:55
Ross park, Penn hills
jonawebb
2014-06-21 10:05:28
Another foot? Which one? I'll teach Just remember what lies inside a peach.
jonawebb
2014-06-22 12:48:28
Sculpture of a young panther in front of the Pitt Student Union, eager to pursue education and follow in the exalted and inspiring footsteps of its older kin. loc: 40.443356, -79.954100
ahlir
2014-06-22 13:59:22
Some people might view this tag with trepidation. Fine, I say. Even if it was a secret base left over from the Cold War, or perhaps a more recent NWO installation, it's still a tag.
ahlir
2014-06-22 16:36:41
I'm glad people aren't lighting coal fires and pitch pots in the streets any more.
paulheckbert
2014-06-23 11:05:06
McNaugher Reservoir, Fineview, Lafayette at Biggs. If this isn't it, it's its twin! And it was sure Type 2 fun climbing the Rising Main Ave steps on a hot day!
stuinmccandless
2014-06-23 17:14:40
that's the one. good job! (so, are there any other geodesic-dome covered reservoirs in the area?)
ahlir
2014-06-23 17:51:25
There's some very similar structures at Beck's Run & Madeline. Penn American Water.
jonawebb
2014-06-23 18:37:58
And one in Verona: Point Breeze Reservoir. I didn’t get out to McNaugher Reservoir, but I did some reading about it. In Pittsburgh's water history, disease and associated superstitions were common. Cholera epidemics kept Pittsburgh in fear. Coal fires and pitch pots were lit in the streets, expecting that the flames would kill the cause of the disease. Hundreds perished in 1832, 1833, 1834, 1849, 1850, 1854 and 1855. http://apps.pittsburghpa.gov/pwsa/History_of_the_Pittsburgh_Public_Water_Supply2.ppt Pittsburgh at one time had the highest rate of typhoid in the country; in the late 19th century, about half of all foreign-born men became sick with typhoid within two years of arriving in the city. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegheny_County_Sanitary_Authority Water filtration and more reservoirs were built around 1900, including McNaugher. Here's the construction of Herron Hill Reservoir. More recently, in the Pittsburgh Press newspaper, 1983: In the heat of mid-summer, the temptation presented by a reservoir filled with cool, clean water is just too much to resist for urban youths… Young swimmers “just take over the reservoirs, even though the police have been patrolling them, even though we have high fences around them.” … The two reservoirs in Highland Park, East Liberty, and the Brashear and McNaugher reservoirs “are where we’ve had the most activity this summer”. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19830815&id=f0ocAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1mEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5202,7602897
paulheckbert
2014-06-23 19:17:12
Highland Park Reservoirs. Pittsburgh Zoo. Alleghators. Problem solved. You're welcome.
ahlir
2014-06-23 20:52:37
New tag! The name of this street is not Hydrant Way, but it may as well be. The first letter is the same, though.
stuinmccandless
2014-06-24 06:36:02
PWSA pump station on Howard St, corner of (duh) Rising Main Ave. loc: 40.464622, -80.000245 The blue hydrants are for high-pressure flow. I asked one of the people there but he said they'd never been used during his time there.
ahlir
2014-06-24 10:38:10
Hamilton and Braddock. It looked familiar -- I saw it a few days ago when I went after the Ross Rd tag (but was beaten by a couple of hours by jonawebb)
kaushik
2014-06-25 10:49:26
It’s a pretty steep grade — you may want to walk your bike up to the sky.
kaushik
2014-06-25 10:55:15
ah yes, this one: I have a particular affinity for it. It was my first tag ever:
ahlir
2014-06-25 11:53:35
Some meta-comments: According to Steven's spreadsheet, we're up to 850 tags (yow). The probability of duplication is rising accordingly. Not that there's anything wrong about it per se. But people remember stuff, so repeats get snapped up pretty fast. I like the game because it makes me come up with places and perspectives that I believe somehow require a bit of detective work (or, minimally, a habit of riding around a whole lot). Sometimes I get it wrong (like when you found the foot). If I have an idea, I try to check the Tag-o-Rama map: http://goo.gl/maps/149f It tells me if my totally awesome tag idea has already been snapped. Alternately, if you're tooling along and spot something that's just perfect for a tag and snap it, look at the map when you get back. Sometimes it's been taken, like this one I took yesterday, only to discover it was already done: Grr. But at least I finally got to do one of those bar-b-que places. Too bad they're weren't smoking (which they seem to do earlier in the day). It would have looked cooler.
ahlir
2014-06-25 12:48:30
I do check the map before posting. It does not show a previous tag at Walking to the Sky.
kaushik
2014-06-25 13:09:22
KD's right -- the location is wrong on tag #42.
jonawebb
2014-06-25 13:16:28
Hm. Did someone just fix it? I apologize to KD. My post could be taken as rather patronizing...
ahlir
2014-06-25 13:53:34
Yeah, I moved it. It seemed like it didn't take at first.
jonawebb
2014-06-25 14:00:27
That's cool Ahlir -- no offense taken.
kaushik
2014-06-25 14:03:56
Well bow to the partner and the corners all Join hands, circle to the left – go around that ring Go eight to the middle with a hey-hey-hey! Do an allemande left, and a right and left grand You kick it on up, go ‘round When you meet your girl swing and whirl Then promenade that lady fair Take a little walk around that square Hint: Saturday
ahlir
2014-06-25 18:05:45
oh dear. still not picked up. A few notes: 1) Yes this is (or rather was) a church. There's a plaque on the side that identifies it as "St. Mark AME Zion". I was somewhat surprised: the character of the neighborhood is very different now (I don't live there, but I know a hipster when I see one). It honors Pastor A. A. Henderson, and mentions Thomas Gabrielli as the "patron" (I found a Pittsburgh architect by that name). Here's a picture of Henderson from 50 years ago. There are many St. Mark AME churches in the US and even one in a nearby town. This tagged building does not show up on search, however (well, I'm lazy and scanned only the first page). 2) The quotation should be easy to figure out. I'm told that doing this stuff is (or was) a standard part of the elementary school curriculum in the US. And so people grew up despising it. Pity. 3) The church, now a hall, is used for various community functions. There's one just about to take place. I thought the publicity for the event was pretty good. Even someone like me noticed it in several different places.
ahlir
2014-06-27 19:14:27
Mintwood & 39th my friend owns a church near here. this might be it
jonawebb
2014-06-27 20:37:02
aw Jon. you went and got it! I was hoping someone in the neighborhood would get it. Full points on reaction time, though. Here's a maybe-a-bit-precious article that's kind-of about the music: http://www.nextpittsburgh.com/features/because-its-hip-to-be-squares/ All kidding aside this stuff is so totally fun. Check it out. We're planning to show up. Hope you can make it too. Caveat: bike parking may be a bit of a challenge, though there's a couple of stairs with metal pipe banisters on the building.
ahlir
2014-06-27 21:40:12
Whoa. This is serious creepy. Google Now is telling me about the next bus to St. Mark AME, the one in Wilkinsburg. Help. [No, I really do need to be using compters in my life...]
ahlir
2014-06-27 22:15:34
Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin' Into the future Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin' Into the future
jonawebb
2014-06-28 17:23:39
Group tag with Marko and Yale!
rustyred
2014-06-29 13:54:09
New Tag: A Little Free Library has sprung up in this neighborhood named after a British city.
rustyred
2014-06-29 20:35:04
Manhattan and Hamlin, in Manchester. loc: 40.452691, -80.025820 The sidewalk on Manhattan is concrete; most of the other sidewalks in that neighborhood seem to be brick. And, I got lucky (found it around the first corner).
ahlir
2014-07-01 18:35:53
Berlioz
ahlir
2014-07-02 08:07:49
A bit soon, but it is a holiday... Sorry you didn't fancy Hector. He does have friends. The closest are Verdi and Donizetti. 1917
ahlir
2014-07-03 17:39:58
Kudos to Jon for that clue
sgtjonson
2014-07-03 17:41:08
The point of this game is to get out and ride, and ride I did, taking a very odd way home on Wednesday trying to find this. I didn't. This isn't whining, this is celebratory! I'm just hoping I can figure this out in the next day or two before I go on a vacation from the bike for a few days (pet sitting, so have to stay close to home, no hours-long excursions).
stuinmccandless
2014-07-04 07:09:38
Nice photo, Ahlir. Flagpole between Carnegie Music Hall and Dippy.
paulheckbert
2014-07-04 09:51:20
You know I thought that was the Carnegie music hall even without the clue, but after looking around yesterday with Yale I thought I was wrong. *hidden* in plain sight I guess.
marko82
2014-07-04 12:50:45
Here's a description: Four relief medallions representing the four disciplines of the Institute: Primitive Drawing, Primitive Construction, Primitive Music and Primitive Language. Primitive Language shows a figure communicating with his/her young. Primitive Drawing features a kneeling native american in profile next to a rock carved with a bison and two antelope. Primitive Music is illustrated with a seated female in profile playing a drum. A small child stands behind her holding several arrows. Primitive Construction is depicted with a bearded male in profile holding a triangle in his proper left hand an a compass in this proper right hand. In the foreground are two designs produced using the drawing instruments http://siris-artinventories.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&profile=all&source=~!siartinventories&uri=full=3100001~!26834~!0#focus
ahlir
2014-07-04 13:10:35
And, just because I ran across it, a letter concerning the frieze: My Dear Mr. Frew: I cannot approve of the list of names published in the Dispatch of the 10th instant as those selected for the decorations. Some of the names have no business to be on the list. Imagine Dickens in and Burns out. Among painters, Perugini out and Rubens in, the latter only a painter of fat vulgar women, while a study of the pictures of Raphael will show any one that he was really only a copyist of Perugini, whose pupil he was. Imagine Science and Franklin not there. The list for Music seems satisfactory. Palestrina rightly comes first. Have been entranced by his works, which we have heard in Rome. As I am to be in Pittsburgh very soon, I hope you will postpone action in regard to the names. Yours very truly, Andrew Carnegie
ahlir
2014-07-04 13:16:29
It would be cool if the Carnegie Music Hall would carve HENDRIX right next to BRAHMS and BERLIOZ. new tag
paulheckbert
2014-07-04 13:28:01
Wilkinsburg. loc: 40.437216, -79.884572
ahlir
2014-07-04 15:47:55
The prospect of a nice long ride on a beautiful day eventually took me up this way. I had expected wide vistas but that prospect did not materialize. Instead I found this one:
ahlir
2014-07-05 16:31:30
Prospect middle school
jonawebb
2014-07-06 12:36:43
I went down to St. James Infirmary, Saw my baby there, Stretched out on a long white table, So sweet, so cold, so bare.
jonawebb
2014-07-07 08:30:12
that hint didn't narrow it down much, for me!
paulheckbert
2014-07-09 11:18:46
I've been out twice looking for this. Nothing so far, and not much to go on.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-09 11:39:13
Thank you. I had forgotten how nauseating that song is.
paulheckbert
2014-07-09 12:09:50
The original pic and clue were actually enough. (Though there's a nice decoy that came to mind first.) But I'm in Baltimore...
ahlir
2014-07-09 12:13:07
Ok, not Armstrong Park, or Black St, or Friday St, but Sister Thea Bowman Catholic Academy, St James Parish, Wood & Rebecca Streets, Wilkinsburg
paulheckbert
2014-07-10 09:21:40
the brucing: I initially thought this would have to do with the train station: (And the city morgue is across the street.) But of course the facade is wrong.
ahlir
2014-07-10 09:46:53
Open for days, then bruced -- the perfect combination of Tag-o-Rama hope and disappointment! Congrats, Paul.
jonawebb
2014-07-10 10:12:25
Wow, I'm glad I went to EEFC after the pickup, not before. Every minute counts! New tag.
paulheckbert
2014-07-10 11:22:45
Ha! I was lurking around the Medical Examiner's offices and the train station this morning too!
rustyred
2014-07-10 11:30:41
Well, I figured I should hit up the Giant Eagle today anyway. The end of Laurel Street, back entrance to the Edgewood Tahn Center.
lizzimac
2014-07-10 15:58:04
Ohhhh, THAT gate. Yeah, we've discussed that one at length a couple of times. Maybe I'll go dig up the thread (or two or three). Short take: Usually open, but every once in a while, someone gets a seed under their dentures about people passing through here, and it gets closed.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-10 16:20:26
Here's the old thread: Ryan Sprake and Rob Knapp and I asked the Edgewood Borough Council to open this gate in 2011 (wow, has it been that long?), we met considerable resistance at the time, and I've left the issue alone, since then. I don't know what might have changed. http://localhost/mb/topic/from-oakland-to-edgewood-town-ctr/ I hope the gate stays open!
paulheckbert
2014-07-10 17:08:41
Tag-o-Rama hope and disappointment You mean "the agony and the ecstasy"? (or, I guess, ~ vice-versa.) I got back to town last night, assuming that someone would have figured out the rather obvious 2nd clue (high school / Rebecca / ...). But I when I checked this morning it was still open. Go figure. So I took the roundabout ride to work and snapped my pic. (Were I a Type A I would have have been out there by 6am. Sadly, I'm maybe a Type Ab. At best. On a good day) The heart tag was straightforward to figure out. I usually focus on the pic, since it's hard for the tagger to completely control what shows up (even when they try to be clever and pixilate obvious bits). Anyway, the building behind the tag had to be either a school gym or industrial. On reflection, the quality was a bit too nice to be the latter. The clue originally made me think of the train station and the morgue (which are next to each other). But a quick check on the StreetView took care of that. The next step was to search for "St. James [school]". This nailed it immediately. I should also note that this was one of those tags that I knew I had seen before (which I had, searching for Jon's launderette). It's also one that shows the weakness of the StreetView approach: this tag is newer than than their last cruise through that neighborhood.
ahlir
2014-07-10 20:31:41
No, it's on Streetview, though it looks a little different there. Of course, there have been plenty of other tags that weren't.
steven
2014-07-10 22:59:20
This sign indicates two of my favorite activities! (Do yinz consider 'travel by horseback' to be multimodal?)
lizzimac
2014-07-11 13:18:58
I suppose that depends on how much you like your horse. :-)
stuinmccandless
2014-07-11 14:15:23
Wilkinsburg park and ride lot
jonawebb
2014-07-12 09:14:24
Samwise Gamgee saw an elephant But he didn't call it that This house is a dome But it's not where you might think it's at
jonawebb
2014-07-12 20:52:12
Nice pic. And your'e right, it's not where it's at; googling "pittsburgh shire" gets you this (among other things): "Shire" is also an actual street; adding "hobbit" doesn't help. (Though I should note that hobbit habitations traditionally are built into the ground; this one isn't.) When you do find it online, you'll discover that the owners have fiendishly tried to obfuscate its actual location (for commercial purposes). Oddly, it's (figuratively) at the other end of a tag I posted a while ago. Small town. Anyway, here's the thing: I need to leave town tomorrow, late in the day. If you know where this is and intend to get it, please post. Otherwise I'll go get it in the morning. Don't worry: I have a couple of nifty follow-up tags lined up, so the game goes on.
ahlir
2014-07-13 21:25:55
Well, didn't happen. Sorry for the confusion.
ahlir
2014-07-14 13:48:27
Right where I expected it to be: 736 Olivant Pl, Lincoln-Lemington. Designed by Joe Yacoboni in the 60s. Is available for rent at $125/night apparently. https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1114987
paulheckbert
2014-07-14 19:56:11
Well, that saves me about 10 extra miles of riding in the morning. I just figured it out, and was planning a sunrise departure for work. It's been four days since I've been on the bicycle, and I'm going stir crazy.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-14 20:18:41
@Paul, a word clue? Those houses at the end of Lincoln-Larimer are remarkable. The dome house is the most interesting, but there are several really nice homes. All in a neighborhood known as a slum, which sits on flat land, a short ride from East Liberty. It is really a remarkable place; a shame that it has fallen into such hard times.
jonawebb
2014-07-15 08:27:33
Well, that took some googling, now to do some riding. This will be adding a LOT of miles to my trip home tonight. (This is not a complaint.)
stuinmccandless
2014-07-15 13:06:21
Wood Street steps next to the East Busway, Wilkinsburg. Actually what's at the top of these steps is the bike path to Rankin (minus the piece in Edgewood). So, thank you for helping me figure out another way to access these!
stuinmccandless
2014-07-15 17:28:30
New tag! A food desert is where the members of a community do not live within one mile of a grocery store. In this case, about one-third of the community fits that description. To help relieve this situation, a grange is planned to go in this space. Last night, community members gathered in this space to share ideas.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-15 21:33:47
I know where this is, roughly -- but I don't think I'll get there before Saturday morning.
jonawebb
2014-07-17 07:56:01
If anyone else is interested, perhaps you can get Jean or Marc to make a cake for you, but that still doesn't solve the food desert problem.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-17 11:45:46
It doesn't? Marie Antoinette might disagree.
steven
2014-07-18 01:03:39
I can see Jean-Marc's from here Pocket park at Grant and North, Millvale
jonawebb
2014-07-19 10:07:55
You may find yourself Longing for a brighter bike You may find yourself Wanting some reflective stripes On your bicycle wheels You may ask yourself Well, where do I get them?
jonawebb
2014-07-19 11:19:26
Bankers supply co. Baum blvd
steeld55
2014-07-20 07:22:25
Yes! That is Nick D's new shop, selling bike clothes.
jonawebb
2014-07-20 08:58:39
New tag If you wanna move on up with George Jefferson your not going to the east side. But to find this tag you have to know the first name first.
steeld55
2014-07-20 17:34:33
Kay's characters weenie and skipperdee had a great owner if you find her you might find this tag
steeld55
2014-07-21 18:50:16
No photo?
stuinmccandless
2014-07-22 02:59:27
D'oh! I didn't realize that was a second clue. Yes, it's visible. I have a pretty good idea where this is, but won't be able to pick it up until Wednesday. Have at it, folks!
stuinmccandless
2014-07-22 05:43:17
I figured the first clue was to hard and it's a newer pic so it won't be on Google maps so I think that's what Is taking so long you gotta ride to find
steeld55
2014-07-22 10:58:53
Well, I tried. I went the length of Eloise St on the North Side twice (working from the Skipperdee hint), once slow, again slower, even ducking into some little side alleys, but came up empty. I don't know where this is.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-23 09:17:11
Did you get the first clue stu? That one was more important to the location but you were close
steeld55
2014-07-23 09:43:53
I think I spotted it on Streetview (the window frame, undecorated, and distinctive shingles) using the two clues together. But I won't be riding that way for a few days. If only I had a time machine!
steven
2014-07-23 09:52:59
Eloise and Sherman, North Side. I actually went past this three times and didn't see it. Hidden in plain sight! It also doesn't help that I never watched either The Jeffersons or All In The Family, so the first clue was all but useless.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-23 17:29:13
New tag! Is this the beginning or the end? Any way you look at it, it's somewhere in between.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-24 08:58:45
The Dairy Queen in Verona, tag 210 from 2011, was just featured in the Cars Hitting Buildings thread. I wonder if any other tags have been damaged by cars? Perhaps the driver should get an honorary point.
steven
2014-07-25 01:46:30
River trail by millvale
steeld55
2014-07-25 05:42:02
That's the spot! In between Millvale and Sharpsburg. In between the river and the tracks. End of the official trail, start of railroad ballast. (You can see the change just behind my rear wheel.)
stuinmccandless
2014-07-25 06:43:16
Who you gonna call for a NEW TAG? You don't have to sleep on an island to see Bill but you might want to be along the river in Mr. smalls park.
steeld55
2014-07-26 10:55:58
I know exactly where Bill is but I can't get there until next week. Danggit.
rustyred
2014-07-29 17:48:56
I went looking for this on Monday and didn't find it.
stuinmccandless
2014-07-29 20:17:45
I'll swing by this in the morning and see but I'm sure it's still around
steeld55
2014-07-29 21:44:50
Millvale Riverfront Park loc: 40.472202, -79.971890 One of those nice hidden in plain view tags...
ahlir
2014-07-31 16:40:42
"Don't give up the ship!" It's a bit large to hide; so I'm inclined to say that it's in plain view. Depending on your commuting habits.
ahlir
2014-07-31 17:16:24
Charlotte St - 9th ward
ted
2014-07-31 22:36:55
Nice. This is the former Lawrence Public School (or what's left of it).
ahlir
2014-08-01 06:57:42
I think this little library may qualify as being hidden in plain sight?
ted
2014-08-02 10:44:42
On (and in) Friendship, at Amboy. loc: 40.462162, -79.941061 ok, this is the second one of these that I'm pickling up... and neither shows up on Streetview. I can't decide if it's some kind of rapidly spreading grass-roots thing, or a space invasion (in the figurative sense).
ahlir
2014-08-02 13:29:52
And, just to complicate matters, there's a bike helmet in the case: (to be fair though, it's a reflection)
ahlir
2014-08-02 13:36:37
Like for the previous couple of tags, if you do that commute thing you probably know where this is. Let's just agree that you're now a little closer to home (well, depending on "home").
ahlir
2014-08-02 20:07:34
Coral and Latham Near the Octopus's garden
jonawebb
2014-08-03 11:43:04
Well, yeah We would shout and swim about The coral that lies beneath the waves Oh what joy for every girl and boy Knowing they're happy and they're safe We would be so happy you and me No one there to tell us what to do I'd like to be under the sea In an octopus's garden with you But why not dare venture down Latham? Attack of the killer tomatoes! Attack of the killer tomatoes! They'll beat you, bash you, Squish you, mash you Chew you up for brunch And finish you off for dinner or lunch! Life. Full of choices...
ahlir
2014-08-03 15:43:27
(To the tune of "Castle in the Cloud") This tag was funded by the crowd I'd like to go there someday to eat Even though they'll serve mostly meat Not too much veg at the tag funded by the crowd. There is a man there all in white He's in charge because he's the chef He likes to cook and can pickle fish Someday he'll say, "jonawebb for your contribution I thank you very much." This tag was funded by the crowd I'd like to go there someday to eat Even though they'll serve mostly meat Not too much veg at the tag funded by the crowd.
jonawebb
2014-08-04 18:33:01
Kevin Sousa project in Braddock loc: 40.397525, -79.860313
ahlir
2014-08-06 12:05:28
dude, driving to a tag is a big no-no. Just ask JAWs about it...
jaysherman5000
2014-08-06 12:17:41
@JaySherman5000: That's my sports utility bike ("SUB"). Sorry for not being clear about that. And note: this SUB is totally pedal powered. But thank you for this opportunity to explain: I had submitted Thelma (her nick-name) to that urban-utility bicycle design contest. I just knew she would win, what with the originality and not to mention her practicality. But those contest people got back to me and told me that, apparently, I had not followed one of the real important rules (I think it was on the 2nd, maybe 3rd, page; btw, is fixed3 a real font?) and that, regretfully and reluctantly, Thelma had to be disqualified. But, hey, us yinzers have our hearts in the right place and we always come right back and we always do better. Maybe next year, huh? Go Steelers. And speaking of football did you know that, according to the light-post banners, Braddock was the first place where steel was produced industrially? (well, in America)
ahlir
2014-08-06 21:21:36
A mermaid, I'm pretty sure. Though I'm not sure what she's up to. A little off to the side, Leda and her friend the Zeus are checking each other out. We can fill in the blanks on that one, heh. Then you look on the other side and there's the hippos; back to not sure what's going on... It's all confusing. A beer would have helped, but we're out of luck on that. (Saw a deer though.)
ahlir
2014-08-07 21:00:37
32nd and liberty
steeld55
2014-08-08 18:20:47
I tagged this last year, around this time.
jonawebb
2014-08-08 18:32:40
Details... Your old tag was a hippo. Stock rotation? loc: 40.460266, -79.969186 Now that it's picked up, can anyone explain why this mermaid has what looks to be be two legs? I thought they were supposed to be fish from the waist down. Is this a Three Rivers Mermaid maybe?
ahlir
2014-08-08 19:01:56
don't have to have one foot in the hole to visit but you might be in a hole if you were there when they opened their gates in 1846
steeld55
2014-08-10 12:13:27
Well, I know what this isn't. It's not Engine Co. #1 at Blvd of the Allies by Smithfield.
stuinmccandless
2014-08-11 17:50:36
When I saw your name, Stu, I thought I'd been Bruced! Union Dale Cemetery In your neck of the woods.
jonawebb
2014-08-11 18:23:09
riverrun, past J and L's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay leads us by a commodius vicus of new tag publication back to Hofbrau Castle and environs
jonawebb
2014-08-12 08:48:48
South Shore Riverfront Park loc: 40.429436, -79.964770 The boat happened to be pulling up when I was there.
ahlir
2014-08-12 11:31:55
a clue, of sorts: Friendship is the Wine of life. -- Edward Young
ahlir
2014-08-13 10:54:36
Friendship and gross I started from Baum and decided to start at friendship and vintage because the wine clue, rode all the way down to the park and then it hit me at wine is gross. Nice clue.
steeld55
2014-08-15 05:47:14
Actually I was just having trouble coming up with a decent clue. ("Flamingo, ignoring the Clarion call of Friendship". Not.) But Winebiddle was a block away, and sort of good enough.
ahlir
2014-08-15 08:46:20
Oh man if anyone says wine is gross I will find it necessary to dislike you.
edmonds59
2014-08-15 10:29:46
Fan the sinking flame of hilarity with the wing of friendship; and pass the rosy wine. - Charles Dickens, The Old Curiosity Shop
paulheckbert
2014-08-15 11:06:02
NEW TAG truss me Mon to find peace just bike.
steeld55
2014-08-15 18:08:58
Hot Metal Bridge.
rustyred
2014-08-16 10:17:05
NEW TAG! A nearby pair of First amphibians might ride over this.
rustyred
2014-08-16 12:46:28
Firstside park
jonawebb
2014-08-17 19:18:52
Munkittrick, graber, and corso Will lead you to this tag, or so I'd like to think
jonawebb
2014-08-18 08:22:07
In Wilkinsburg, on Center. loc: 40.440531, -79.883188
ahlir
2014-08-18 10:24:41
PIGS ***B GOATS HAM RIBS BACON BEEF PATTIES RIB FILET STEAK PORTERHOUSE MILD OR HOT DOGS TURKEY FRYERS WINGS BREAST LEG — found poetry Do you have any idea what the ***B might be? I'm pretty sure it's not CRAB: wouldn't really fit in with the other products. Were you on the Every Neighborhood ride? Maybe you also wondered about this, riding by.
ahlir
2014-08-18 18:37:30
On reflection, I think the writer might have been hemmed in by some practical constraints. Had the signboard wood been cut differently, perhaps the poem might have said something else. For instance: PIGS ***B GOATS HAM RIBS BACON BEEF PATTIES RIB FILET STEAK PORTERHOUSE MILD OR HOT DOGS TURKEY FRYERS WINGS BREAST LEG Anyway, pick this tag up before I post again... please.
ahlir
2014-08-18 19:12:36
PIGS LAMB GOATS perhaps. Or PIGS IAMB GOATS if they're measured by the foot.
steven
2014-08-18 20:48:59
touché
ahlir
2014-08-18 21:08:53
Not only do I know exactly where this is, I've done business with the guy many times. The last time I was in there was just over a year ago.
stuinmccandless
2014-08-18 21:23:28
Vic's Choice Meats, East St at Hazlett. If you exit I-279 at Hazlett, you look straight at this sign. Vic was still alive, the last I knew, and was actually in his store and running things until well into 2011. His place is the last vestige of what had been an entire neighborhood, two thousands houses and businesses, that got demolished to build I-279.
stuinmccandless
2014-08-19 09:02:18
New tag! Are we in Camelot? Can't tell, but this came from the same lot of (t)rusty steeds.
stuinmccandless
2014-08-19 17:20:48
Equestrian statue on the Bluff. loc: 40.436731, -79.975915 More description on the "Wheelset of Fortune – take 3" thread.
ahlir
2014-08-21 09:36:55
Yeah, I knew where this was, of course, but felt bad about picking it up again (Tag 595).
jonawebb
2014-08-21 10:05:07
That was a repeat? Sorry, I thought I'd checked that. In any case, I was trying to get more people interested in both games. I also posted this tweet:
Built around a stop sign post, Uptown, Pittsburgh. Also: http://t.co/EFAEBrKgIc pic.twitter.com/XYO2Ij7Bay— Stuart Strickland (@bus15237) August 19, 2014
stuinmccandless
2014-08-21 11:17:05
(tied) tag 'twixt 'burgh 'n 'vale
ahlir
2014-08-21 19:51:55
Overton, near Milton. Regent Square, with campV.
teamdecafweekend
2014-08-23 09:47:14
Actually, Milton near Overton. Overton near Milton sports an asphalt--brick transition. (But they're just around the corner from each other.)
ahlir
2014-08-23 10:04:30
^ Yeah, what he said... Milton near Overton. Feelin' a bit sideways.
teamdecafweekend
2014-08-23 15:28:51
tis the other 'vale
teamdecafweekend
2014-08-23 15:36:03
Need a better locational clue then the other 'vale it's kinda Vague
steeld55
2014-08-25 18:54:42
I poked around some odd streets in Millvale. I didn't see it, but I didn't scour the town all that well. What other 'vales do we have around here? I do agree we could use a bit more info.
stuinmccandless
2014-08-25 20:04:58
Like Stu said "What other ‘vales do we have around here?" Stu's in the right place. And it's a Good place.
teamdecafweekend
2014-08-25 21:06:34
Goodwin Street & Sherman Ave, Millvale.
stuinmccandless
2014-08-26 08:19:52
New tag! Brand new facility, five stores, 170 parking spaces, not a bike rack in sight.
stuinmccandless
2014-08-26 17:18:34
Shop n save on Center in the Hill
jonawebb
2014-08-27 18:23:44
*thread jack* I thought the city required a minimum number of bike racks be installed for new commercial construction, and additional racks could replace car spaces to a certain point. So this shopping center isn't in compliance - is it?
marko82
2014-08-27 19:13:39
There's racks at Center and Heldman and, apparently, somewhere in the shopping plaza. (A while ago I complained about the racks being only on that corner and not in the plaza proper, but someone corrected me.) Oh, and I see that neither the Google or Bing street-views are up to date. Even though that plaza's been up for a while... [On a different topic, did you know that Chrome/Google does not have 'Bing' in its dictionary? Tsk. So juvenile.]
ahlir
2014-08-27 20:42:32
Hush little tagger, don't be a drag, jonawebb's going to post you a brand new tag, To find this tag you'd better head east, You're never going to find it heading west, And if heading east leaves you dry, Then you'd better try looking up high, And if looking up high leaves you dangling, Then you'd better try some street triangling, And if these clues don't work for you, Then you'd better wait a day or two.
jonawebb
2014-08-28 18:33:02
A sweet cracker used in s'mores Will help you make this tag yours And then, remembering this state's Quaker beginner Will get you there and home in time for dinner
jonawebb
2014-08-31 14:02:36
1901 Penn near Graham. With campV.
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-01 15:52:02
Excellent! Congrats td/cv!
jonawebb
2014-09-01 15:53:36
Totally unrelated and NOT a clue (I haven't thought of one yet)... a headline from The Onion: Paleontologists Unearth Earliest Known Dinosaur Stickers
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-01 19:32:34
the road less traveled in a place of rest campV
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-02 21:12:56
The bikes are leaning against a large carved stone, and the scene outside of the picture frame is surrounded by many more carved stones.
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-04 12:46:28
I had an idea of where this was, and it was nearby. So I checked it out. The signage said "walk your bike", but I was lazy. Should I have?
ahlir
2014-09-06 18:26:45
Hmm, doesn't sound like the same place. I never saw a walk-your-bike sign. In fact, this place didn't allow bikes until a few years ago.
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-06 19:10:57
I think another clue might be helpful.
ted
2014-09-11 17:04:05
Negley, McKnight, Ross and Roup (to name a few) are here too. Each with their own carved stones.
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-11 17:51:12
Oh. Then maybe I will take a swing over that way. I was thinking it was way out of my typical path of travel. This would be only a little out of my path of travel. Note that I really don't know precisely where this is, just that it isn't six miles to the southeast of there.
stuinmccandless
2014-09-11 19:55:03
Cremation trail @ Allegheny cemetery
steeld55
2014-09-12 11:00:18
This was in my back yard the whole time but didn't know it.
steeld55
2014-09-12 11:16:06
NEWWWWW TAGGGGG You don't have to search endless oysters to find this beauty in a hard shell.
steeld55
2014-09-13 15:41:12
400 Pearl st
jonawebb
2014-09-13 18:58:26
Don't you need your bike in the pic in retrieving the tag?
steeld55
2014-09-13 19:16:10
Shit! I thought I'd missed it. But it was just the way my phone posted it.
jonawebb
2014-09-13 19:32:59
It's barely visible in the first photo.
stuinmccandless
2014-09-13 23:16:14
You can take all the tea in China Put it in a big brown bag for me Sail right around the seven oceans it will help you find this tag from me
jonawebb
2014-09-14 18:14:52
I've been assuming nobody has picked up this really sweet tag because you're busy riding up and down the new bike lanes to increase rider count. Either that, or combing your beards and playing your banjos outside the Toonseum. But do you need a hint?
jonawebb
2014-09-18 11:34:09
No, I know exactly where it is. But between my work schedule and that it's not really in my regular path of travel, I just haven't gotten over thataway. I'm sure there are 40 people closer to it, though. A real honey of a tag, for sure.
stuinmccandless
2014-09-18 11:37:26
Burg Bees compound on Susquehanna St in Homewood loc: 40.455045, -79.903785 Jon is either a member of the coop or happened by when they had the gate open. I was not so lucky, having neither the key nor the combination: It's roughly across from the former location of Scott's East End Brewery.
ahlir
2014-09-20 13:36:52
This is not a train station, though tracks run nearby. Your clue: witch and worm.
ahlir
2014-09-21 09:21:50
The gate happened to be open when I was there. I think the apiarist was waiting in her car nearby. She invited anyone interested to come by when they have an open apiary (http://burghbees.com/?p=5097). I see the next one is today, actually.
jonawebb
2014-09-21 12:58:44
It'a great that you made it inside. I've been wanting to do it for years. Of course I never had the wherewithal to check up on access times. What mostly brought me there was picking up some beer... or going on a keg ride. I least I caught a glimpse of that smiling sun.
ahlir
2014-09-21 17:46:23
Would folks like another clue? Or are you just waiting for the week-end to make an excursion of it?
ahlir
2014-09-25 13:29:53
of course, a clue, please
paulheckbert
2014-09-25 13:51:41
ok, let's start with this one: Anyone who made at least half way through the All-Neighborhoods ride would definitely have passed by this building. I also think of the street as one that should be familiar to reasonably peripatetic bikers. It's also pretty popular with the car driver people. The building has a company name carved into stone. Of course the company no longer exists. Things That Aren't There Anymore™... I also have a closeup of the scene as well (and in color!) that I can post if there's interest. The B&W was a perhaps a misguided stab at creating nostalgic atmosphere.
ahlir
2014-09-25 17:45:42
Love the B&W. I'll have to look up peripatetic.
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-25 19:12:42
A correction: I meant to say "Anyone who made it past the half way point of the All-Neighborhoods ride would definitely have passed by this building." Sorry about that. Hope no one tried to redo the ride. ☺
ahlir
2014-09-26 07:38:16
You're saying "somewhere along the first 37 miles of the All Neighborhoods route"? That narrows it down to about 45 neighborhoods - not much of a hint.
paulheckbert
2014-09-26 14:57:34
That's hint enough. If this is still here on Monday, I may take a shot at it. It's an exercise in reconstructing what would have been the business districts from about 75 years ago, and where we biked in those second 37 miles.
stuinmccandless
2014-09-26 15:32:57
ok, ok, forget that lousy, stinkin' hint. I never did like it anyway. It was meant to refer to the second half of the route, not the first half... Now I have to come up with something else. That's hard. In the meanwhile, let's look at the clue a little more closely. The words happen to each be part of other words. Figure out the missing bits, stick them together and you will know where to go (well, at least to the right neighborhood).
ahlir
2014-09-26 15:52:08
Hazelwood Senior Community Center, 2nd Ave & Mansion St, Witchhazelwormwood.
paulheckbert
2014-09-26 17:41:58
Pittsburgh Railways Company (a conglomerate of earlier operators) at one time operated pretty much all the streetcars in the area, as well as a number of inclines (including the ones for freight). The lines still operating today were originally theirs. I believe this building may have been their headquarters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Railways http://www.pittsburghtransit.info/index3.html I've ridden past this building for years, and just assumed it was the local train station. But if you look at a map you would that see this was highly unlikely given the street layout.
ahlir
2014-09-26 18:06:42
Here's the thing. I found this image: which looks exactly like Ahlir's building. But it says it's in Millvale. What's going on here? Is the photo mislabeled?
jonawebb
2014-09-26 19:52:45
No, I think all of those others were car barns, of which there were over a dozen. After the consolidation which formed Port Authority, they shrunk down to just six. Ross Garage was originally a car barn, for example. The HQ was on 7th St, downtown. Or maybe 9th. I'll verify later.
stuinmccandless
2014-09-26 19:55:30
brrr. it got cold out there! NEW TAG
paulheckbert
2014-09-26 19:56:50
@stu, I don't think it's the car barn. It looks too small to me. And according to the archive this is the Millvale car barn: @stu, also this photo says the administration building is in Millvale. Paul, impressive. Not a file photo, right?
jonawebb
2014-09-26 20:12:41
Another Pittsburgh Railways building looks nearly identical. The one below is from http://www.pittsburghtransit.info/index3.html where it's labeled "Keating carhouse" . The bicycle in my photo is mine, if that's what you're asking, Jon. hint: this building contains lots of books.
paulheckbert
2014-09-26 20:30:23
Rule #4, sorry, Paul.
jonawebb
2014-09-26 20:41:34
I biked to take the photo. What's the problem?
paulheckbert
2014-09-27 07:09:45
I see the wording of rule #4 doesn't make it clear, but my understanding is that the rule against file photos means that it has to be a fresh photo, taken for the purpose of setting the tag, taken after you picked up the last tag.
jonawebb
2014-09-27 08:35:50
The Keating car house became the Ross Garage. I think the car houses were fairly small and localized, and used a similar layout. It's how we evolved into a hub-and-spoke bus system, because each major route had a car house at its outer end. Zero to minimal deadhead to start a route, and you only had enough rolling stock at each one to service that route. StreetView of the exact spot in the 10 West View trolley photo. The building in the background is visible over the top of the trolley car.
stuinmccandless
2014-09-27 08:47:00
Carnegie Library of Homestead, with campV and LindaP
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-27 13:47:57
Hey! Waitaminute!! I got to this one first!! The EXIF says 2010: 11:20 15:23:41 That would be over 4 years ago, and before any snow fell. (And features my since-stolen Diamondback. Sniff.) I'm with jonawebb on this one: You have to set a tag after you pick one up. Otherwise all sorts of mischief is bound to come up. Like for instance, I had always wanted to post this one: But the darn railway tore it down before I had the chance (it was just opposite the Carrie hot metal bridge). Can I still post it? I think it would be fair if we rewind to Paul and ask him to set a fresh tag (using a pic snapped after 26 Sept). Any comments?
ahlir
2014-09-27 17:18:37
Yeah, I've always understood that it had to be a fresh pic.
stuinmccandless
2014-09-27 17:35:45
"Any comments?" Two strikes: Old pic, old tag.
rustyred
2014-09-27 18:35:51
Yeah, old picture = bogus tag. We were looking for something to do, it was fun, even if useless. Plus we have a cool new tag. I guess our new tag will have to wait (and be photographed again whenever that happens).
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-27 22:21:59
Paul can just take a photo of his bike at the tag. Then your tag pickup becomes retroactively valid. Or he can post a new tag.
jonawebb
2014-09-28 09:20:11
I'd go with jonawebb's solution. Nice day for a ride in any case.
ahlir
2014-09-28 10:08:51
Ok. We could always roll back to my tag (that PRC building) and pretend it never happened. I'll set another one. I wouldn't even want credit for it. (Though I do need to bend that 36h rule.) Riding around today, I snapped a pic that I think should work nicely. So I will post it as a replacement tag in the next day. (Unless that missing tag shows up.) Rules, can't live with them, can't live without them...
ahlir
2014-09-28 21:25:55
By the rules, there's no need for you to post a new tag, and I think it would just complicate things. Either of these things can now happen: 1. Paul posts a new, valid tag. Could be of Carnegie Library of Homestead or someplace else. Then somebody has go get that tag. I think TeamDecaf's photo above won't qualify, since it follows an invalid tag, and if reposted, would be a file photo and invalid. 2. Someone else goes to Hazelwood Senior Community Center and grabs that existing tag (which is now back in play since 36 hours have passed since Paul grabbed the old tag with no valid new tag posted). Whichever happens first wins. I suggest clarifying the rules like this: #4 – File photos are NOT permitted. You may not use a photo taken before the current tag was set to prove you found that tag, nor use a photo taken before you photographed the current tag to set a new tag.
steven
2014-09-29 05:26:11
Yes, ^^^ I agree with Steven.
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-29 07:34:14
sounds good to me.
ahlir
2014-09-29 08:21:58
Rule 4 has been changed to Steven's suggestion.
teamdecafweekend
2014-09-29 08:25:24
Paul, final warning -- please post a new tag or repost your old one.
jonawebb
2014-09-29 13:28:55
Just a little green Like the color when the spring is born There'll be cyclists riding to school tomorrow Just a little green Like the lanes where the Vancouver bikers ride There'll be bicycles and spandex clothes And sometimes there'll be assholes
jonawebb
2014-09-30 12:48:27
Hanging up the game like that was unnecessary, don’t you think? I read a clue on Friday afternoon, two hours later I picked up the tag, and two hours after that I posted a new tag, to keep the game moving forward. On the positive side, my tag was in a less-visited neighborhood, so it gave people who are not regulars a shot at the game. On the negative side, it was an old photo, and some regulars objected over “rule 4”. I could have biked a block or two from my house and snapped a picture that satisfied the rules, but instead I went to the trouble to keep and share a picture selected to add some geographic variety to the game. It’s sad that people let the game get hung up for three days, and filled the message board with squabbling about rules. I’m sure that non-chronological photos have been used before, and will be used in the future. In most cases, how would you know? EXIF can be doctored. Does a chronological requirement help the game? I think what really matters is to keep the game moving and to encourage newcomers to enter the game. Are we encouraging newcomers, or discouraging?
paulheckbert
2014-09-30 22:04:00
I don't think there was squabbling. We were just discussing how to handle this rules violation, since (as far as I can recall) it hasn't happened before. This month, the game turned four years old. Moving the game along is a fine objective, but we've had a lot of great tags set quickly by people who were following the rules. In most cases, how would you know? EXIF can be doctored. Who would cheat in a game like this, with no prizes? To get some hollow victory? Are we encouraging newcomers, or discouraging? Does it really encourage newcomers to know that certain players will be ignoring rules they find inconvenient? If you think file photos should be allowed for a tag, you can propose that rule change, and we can talk about it. But you don't just start ignoring the rules you don't like.
steven
2014-09-30 23:01:48
I've done a tag pick-up and drop-off on the same ride, but that's as far as I personally would want to go in stretching the rules. Part of what makes the game interesting (at least for me) is dealing with the pressure of locating and snapping a new tag given a relatively short time window. It is a game, after all, and games rely on silly rules to make them challenging (consider soccer and arms). On a more practical level: if you use a stock photo, how do you know that the tag is still there, in the form that you first saw it? You don't. For example, a while ago I posted a tag I referred to as a field of daleks. If you go by that spot today all you will see a building, nearing completion, with nary a dalek in sight (they were used to put up a retaining wall). In any case, maybe the current discussants should take a nap while and maybe someone else wanders by and picks up the current one? Maybe go to the OTB and have those NBC beers you've been piling up all summer...
ahlir
2014-10-01 09:28:07
++ don't forget about the bike lane celebration at Big Jim's tonight 5-7.
jonawebb
2014-10-01 09:33:44
By Phipps conservatory
steeld55
2014-10-02 18:31:25
NEWWW TAGGG If your going to college from Italy you may have to cross a bridge or even stop for a drink- safe travels.
steeld55
2014-10-03 14:45:47
It's not sonny out but maybe tomorrow it will be liss vale out
steeld55
2014-10-06 18:53:41
I'm still napping, but in rolling over I noticed that the current tag is still pending. Now I know I've seen this wall before but I just don't feel like riding out there. I'm figuring that the other regulars aren't out there either. So maybe folks could use another hint?
ahlir
2014-10-10 21:12:15
It's not on Google maps so you got to ride to find it and maybe you can stop for a brew before you go over something gross
steeld55
2014-10-11 00:14:38
My, that's a lot of clues. How to sort them out? This will have to serve as the bridge: And this could be Italy (though maybe not Italians): A Sonny: and a vale: I agree this is kind of Gross: There's this, but it looks different from the one you snapped: But I guess if forced, I'd have to commit to this one: (bonus: there's a sharrow in the street!) apology: I had to make the punning stop; couldn't take it any longer... (in all seriousness the clues were great.)
ahlir
2014-10-11 12:06:30
Well done! and finally. Looks like they finished the mural.
steeld55
2014-10-11 12:10:19
Not sure they were totally done: all the stuff at the foot is painting-related. Maybe they were taking a break for a PBR. BTW: I couldn't quite place the 'liss'.
ahlir
2014-10-11 12:16:45
Mill vale - liss vale
steeld55
2014-10-11 12:18:32
From potables to comestibles, but it's still on a wall. Since 1941, off the Boulevard. Should have pumpkins now. Should be easy to nail this one, if you choose.
ahlir
2014-10-11 13:32:16
I could have been more aggressive in that last clue: You should certainly be able to nail-gun it as well. Particularly if you're coming in from across the street. In fairness, I also need to disclose that the pumpkins would likely only be available on Saturdays. (Along with all the other farmer stuff.) While on the subject, take a moment to reflect on what the owners of the (now) white building did: they instructed the painter to carefully paint their wall, including the bit on the porch. Then the adjoining building was demolished (maybe even by the white-building people who might have bought the adjoining lot). But the bare brick was never painted. Or the flashing removed. Why? Lack of money? Lack of will? A change in ownership? There's a story in there somewhere. We may never know what it is.
ahlir
2014-10-14 20:29:24
farmers market across from home depot in east lib
steeld55
2014-10-15 16:50:53
Ha, Bruced!
jonawebb
2014-10-15 20:57:23
Hey, steeld, I'm ready for some tagging. How about it?
jonawebb
2014-10-18 13:53:39
I want to brag, I want to tag I've been a miner for a house of gold. It's these riding sessions I never flag That keep me searching for a house of gold.
jonawebb
2014-10-19 16:19:54
"House of Gold" on Swissvale and Park Ave, Wilkinsburg
bikeygirl
2014-10-20 17:05:10
Yay bikeygirl! Welcome back!
jonawebb
2014-10-20 18:50:24
Thanks Jonawebb! But more than back, I'm being an opportunist... NEW TAG So, I did not move the tag too far from where I picked up the previous one.... This place is, what I think, a little overlooked spot in an otherwise edged-out intersection, however in a very busy-Tag-o-Rama area. Hard to explain, so just look for the visual cues in it..... ;)
bikeygirl
2014-10-21 17:46:25
Do I need to add more clues? :/
bikeygirl
2014-10-22 14:24:51
sure
paulheckbert
2014-10-22 17:15:56
I can't believe this tag has fallen on deaf-ears, even though there's some people nearby who literally are. It also feels like a "going out of business" establishment that is close by... get your shoes & Race your bike on and find this tag! Triangulate, if you must!
bikeygirl
2014-10-25 14:18:44
I should really just ride out and find this thing. From all your clues I know exactly where this should be, but I just don't recognize the picture. On the other hand, I have a date to walk over to D's in a half hour, otherwise I could, I think, bicycle in five minutes and find it.
nfranzen
2014-10-25 16:40:53
Hooray! We have a winner! :)
bikeygirl
2014-10-25 23:48:47
LOL I know that spot well... I should actually look at this thread once in a while. :p
headloss
2014-10-26 01:53:18
new tag https://flic.kr/p/pwV5vv A dead end road, not on anyone's bicycle commuting route. Yet lots of cyclists come here at least once a year.
nfranzen
2014-10-26 08:37:48
Speaking of Dylan Thomas...
neilmd
2014-10-27 18:40:53
Top of Welsh Way. Pickup w/ddeeff
randy
2014-10-27 18:55:28
So glad to see a few old-timer taggers back. The top of Welsh has been tagged before (facing the other way) - so it's also good the see an old tag back too. Maybe there's something to the coincidence.
teamdecafweekend
2014-10-27 19:13:06
New tag: From stacks of smoke came stacks of books!
randy
2014-10-28 09:20:50
Braddock library w/Paul Heckbert
jonawebb
2014-10-28 18:48:13
South of the North And East of the Center Lies This Place of Fun Where Children Enter
jonawebb
2014-10-29 18:38:09
Cute lil playground in Wilkinsburg (South Ave and Center St)
randy
2014-10-31 07:58:53
New tag: A temple of sweaty balls.
randy
2014-10-31 08:03:11
Home of the Panthers. loc: 40.443805, -79.961264 I'm pretty sure they have someone who wipes down their balls after a game... [hm, given the forecast this may not have been the wisest pickup...]
ahlir
2014-10-31 11:17:38
New tag! An easy one, I think... South of the North And West of the East Whilst Close to the Center And Off to the Right, the Door Where Children can Enter
ahlir
2014-11-01 13:02:52
I thought wrong. Maybe it's the poem. It's not that good. The original was better. Sorry. Do you think it would sound better in google German? Südlich des Nord Und westlich der Osten Während der Nähe des Zentrums Und nach rechts, die Tür Wo Kinder Geben Sie kann Let me know if you'd like a further hint...
ahlir
2014-11-04 18:18:55
Nein
teamdecafweekend
2014-11-04 20:17:03
A Clue: Camera is pointing North-East.
ahlir
2014-11-08 10:54:33
Allegheny General Hospital Center for Children, at Tripoli & East, Deutschtown, with Yale and Marko
paulheckbert
2014-11-09 13:15:03
new tag: rag pickers' shul
paulheckbert
2014-11-09 19:19:54
Currently, the Zion Hill Full Gospel Baptist Church. Webster Ave & Seal St, Hill District. loc: 40.446318, -79.980788 Darn, I just noticed that there's a cornerstone next to the sign... Any of the tag setters happen to look?
ahlir
2014-11-10 12:37:52
About that building: "In the Hill District, a large Star of David is still visible over the entrance of Zion Hill Full Gospel Baptist Church, 2043 Webster Ave. Built in 1920, this was Kether Torah, which means "crown of the law." Its name was lofty, but its nickname was not; locals called it "the rag pickers' shul," Mr. Toker said. It's still possible to climb above a dropped ceiling and see the synagogue's original dome as well as the gallery where the women sat. A mikvah, the ritual bath Jewish women used monthly, is in the basement." http://www.post-gazette.com/life/lifestyle/2011/12/17/History-tour-to-feature-Jewish-sites-around-town/stories/201112170210
paulheckbert
2014-11-11 13:22:05
The next Tag. Sorry for the delay, I had a scheduling conflict. I thought I'd be late but then I got there too early. Some days you just can't win.
ahlir
2014-11-12 10:36:19
Google has been rolling out a new version of the My Maps feature that's used to map tags. Their update broke the existing map (and even lost some data, though fortunately I had a fairly recent backup). I made a new map for the game at http://goo.gl/qXrQ1S The updated My Maps no longer has Street View, and requires dividing up the tags into blocks of 450 each. (To see all the tags, make sure all the blocks are enabled. Clicking in the wrong place will toggle the block off and hide its tags.) My Maps no longer permits having a photo that's a link, so the links to the message board are now below each photo. They also force a certain size for all photos. If you're logged into Google, the above page will display a link for editing the map. I don't think you can edit it without a Google account. Please PM me if you notice any problems.
steven
2014-11-13 04:22:07
Conflict Kitchen Security is tight here. A police officer was watching the place while I was taking this photo. In related news, Conflict Kitchen is doing exactly what it set out to do.
jonawebb
2014-11-15 10:29:43
Robert, my son, may give you a cheap drink, When you pick up this tag, if you give him a wink
jonawebb
2014-11-17 07:17:05
61C Cafe, Murray & Bartlett. Robert wasn't there, unfortunately.
paulheckbert
2014-11-21 16:20:07
new tag
paulheckbert
2014-11-21 21:48:00
Paul, how about a word clue?
jonawebb
2014-11-22 09:22:16
clue: Othello
paulheckbert
2014-11-22 09:29:21
Perhaps another clue?
rustyred
2014-11-24 06:20:49
What, you need "more" clues?
reddan
2014-11-24 07:02:01
I can't believe someone hasn't gotten this. I'd leave a clue myself but then I'd feel like a traitor.
edmonds59
2014-11-24 07:35:09
clue: Othello here has a good view of the US Steel Tower.
paulheckbert
2014-11-24 08:20:57
Othello is a pretty good clue, actually. Plus, this tag is fairly close to another very recent clue, and the same type of building.
stuinmccandless
2014-11-24 12:03:36
@Stu: Actually two recent tags of the same type of building thereabouts. Well, I got two maybe there were more. Too bad it was a busy day, and tomorrow morning I first have to fix a bike tire flat. I'm pretty sure this one has lighting (well, it really ought to), so it's perfect for a midnight pickup. Gopher it.
ahlir
2014-11-24 20:00:29
I came in by motorcycle today, or I'd grab it. Maybe I'll try to pick it up on my way in in the morning, if someone doesn't do so overnight.
stuinmccandless
2014-11-24 20:39:44
Just curious, does your motorcycle have a centre stand?
edmonds59
2014-11-25 09:36:28
St Benedict the Moor: Centre and Crawford IMG_20141125_104950
rustyred
2014-11-25 11:28:30
New tag: IMG_20141125_105515 Flightless birds are a puzzle.
rustyred
2014-11-25 11:45:19
Yo, there is an alien perched on your handlebars...
neilmd
2014-11-25 13:22:24
Autism school mural.1208 fifth ave
jonawebb
2014-11-28 11:25:03
Christmas time is here Grab a Fifth of cheer Find this tag And you will bag A cold bike ride This year
jonawebb
2014-11-29 11:26:48
New Tag: IMG_20141125_111202 This guy's got quite an Exposition going on.
rustyred
2014-11-30 20:16:30
Usually, musicians like this have a Stage.
rustyred
2014-12-04 00:29:28
https://flic.kr/p/q3Pynh N E W T A G The city is more important than the state of this garden.
teamdecafweekend
2014-12-07 20:35:02
532.5 S. Trenton, as it says.
paulheckbert
2014-12-08 15:02:20
an easy, but very sad, NEW TAG. hint: "three men who he says jumped out of an unmarked car and forced him into submission never showed badges and didn't say they were police ... he thought they were muggers when they demanded drugs, guns and money during the incident in January 2010."
paulheckbert
2014-12-08 19:55:30
When you pick up this tag, let us know if you find any cans of Mountain Dew nearby.
paulheckbert
2014-12-11 15:11:49
I'd've picked this up a couple days ago if it was a bit warmer. My taillight batteries are lasting barely long enough to get me home, and this isn't exactly on my way there.
stuinmccandless
2014-12-11 15:20:48
Where Jordan Miles was beaten by racist cops 7920 Tioga, S Homewood
jonawebb
2014-12-13 12:51:03
Sparkle season kept us warm, covering The streets in blinking lights, breathing A little life into the dying ember That is commercial retail
jonawebb
2014-12-14 15:19:09
I sometimes show up for the easy ones. Classic Lines shop, on Forbes in Squirrel Hill.
randy
2014-12-16 09:35:01
Up the tracks from the Battlefield's History, the courtship plumage rivals the feather of the General's hat.
randy
2014-12-17 07:14:38
loc: 40.408686, -79.866527 4th St underpass, North Braddock I can't believe I rode past that previous tag and didn't remember to stop... Anyway, sorry for the crappy pics; my phone doesn't understand the whole ISO/f/speed thing.
ahlir
2014-12-17 18:10:27
Lovely plumage.
rustyred
2014-12-18 15:44:24
if aliens landed there, got out of their ship and looked around, they'd have a hard time squaring their initial experience with later observations.
vannever
2014-12-18 16:29:00
The Pittsburgh Murals site is pretty informative (I've used it in the past). And I notice that the site is being actively updated; there are entries from today and last week. Though the maintainers seem reticent and go by their initials; this one person S (or sometimes S.) seems to do a lot. So depending on your goals, you might want to check out the site before you snap a mural for a tag. Lots of other murals around, though. But here's one that's both on the site and has already been used as a tag (so don't go for it!). It's Uptown Rhythm by James Simon.Shows my two favorite activities...
ahlir
2014-12-18 19:22:04
At Home. maybe some time Anchors Aweigh!
ahlir
2014-12-19 10:03:44
The boat used to be up against a building down the street, which building was once tagged (at least I think it's the same boat).
ahlir
2014-12-21 10:52:54
Ahlir, your second photo is coming up Forbidden.
steven
2014-12-21 16:44:14
Nasty little hobbits... but it does appear to work for me (in Chrome). Here's an alternative: Think hard, there must be some Pittsburgh connection...
ahlir
2014-12-21 18:07:43
Singin in the Absence-of-Rain at Kelly & Murtland, Homewood
paulheckbert
2014-12-23 13:55:56
new tag
paulheckbert
2014-12-23 19:01:12
A PG article about the Homewood mural's creation.
steven
2014-12-23 19:36:09
Just to follow up, the boat in my pic is not the one I thought it was: One of those proto-tags overtaken by events...
ahlir
2014-12-24 17:00:10
OK, I see roughly where this is, but I have no idea how you get up there. Or maybe it's down there. I wasn't even sure there was a "there" there. Apparently there is. I walked across that bridge a couple months ago, looked up in that general direction, and wondered how that might be accomplished, and didn't figure it out. Further study and a field trip with bike under me (or under my arm) is warranted.
stuinmccandless
2014-12-26 15:09:41
good luck
paulheckbert
2014-12-26 21:34:11
Luck is nice. But what you probably want are low gears and good brakes.
ahlir
2014-12-26 22:01:39
https://flic.kr/p/pBPwJR Another shot from the closest street "William St" A fairly steep decent/climb across a grass-covered hillside
teamdecafweekend
2014-12-27 13:43:23
Good tag. But trying to research some possibilities on the interwebs turned out to be pretty draining... I'm not sure why, but this somehow reminds me of Bergman's Skammen
ahlir
2014-12-29 19:05:54
^ Yes, Ahlir, 13 years in the making, this tag is all about people and their behavior in war, a big war.
teamdecafweekend
2014-12-29 21:30:05
World War 2 Memorial, North Shore Dr & Chuck Noll Way
paulheckbert
2014-12-30 01:32:07
new tag - not a bad place to be, on a cold day
paulheckbert
2014-12-30 01:34:12
Oliver Bath House, 10th St at Bigham, South Side I've always wondered how to do this one, given that the name is right there over the entrance. Paul found the solution: shoot at night!
ahlir
2014-12-30 12:46:37
The January 2011 winter pools ride took in the OBH. That was fun-- going from dressed-for-zero to entirely un- in about four minutes, swimming, showering, drying off, then getting back INTO dressed-for-zero.
stuinmccandless
2014-12-30 15:44:30
Wow. I thought this next tag would be an easy one. I was wrong. Here's the problem: There's a bit of street art that, for some time, I've been hoping to tag. I figured this would be the time. So I snapped it. Subsequent due diligence revealed that someone had already snapped it, but for their blog. And it's a someone who I believe frequents this board. I was conflicted... So anyway. We've done the Toynbees (though not all of them) and the House of Hades (likewise). And our Stikman. But this is a new kid just arrived on the block. Not sure just when, but it's been maybe a year or so since I've spotted it. There are two instances that I'm aware of. Here's the already snapped one (my version): (Again, it has not as yet been a tag but a bit of obvious googling will tell you exactly where to find it.) So in the spirit of evening the playing ground, this other piece is ****** *THE *ACTUAL* TAG ******: I would have to infer that this one was installed before the other one. I mean, technically it failed. Art? Craft? You decide. Life in the city. I'm pretty sure I remember an "O" being there. The clue: 1) Note the scale. This thing is pretty small. But it is in between the cross-walk lines. On the east side of the intersection. And obvious to pedestrians (something the HoH people sort of screwed up). 2) When school is in session this is a major bikeway. I know, because there's all these kids on Huffy's puffing past me on the minor grade up to and beyond this intersection. Males, of course. 3) I didn't look around that much for landmarks, but I should mention a gas station. And a dentist. And what looked to be a deli. Hmm. Maybe I said too much.
ahlir
2014-12-30 17:42:31
Bayard & Craig, aka Howard Hanna Way
jonawebb
2014-12-31 12:50:01
There are eight, nine, ten blocks of bike lanes, Thanks to you, Peduto! Yes, there are eight, nine, ten blocks of bike lanes, And I thank you.
jonawebb
2014-12-31 14:50:14
Yale and I are mounting an expedition for this. current temp: 5°F (-15°C) Wind Speed SW 15 G 24 mph Wind Chill -13°F (-25°C)
paulheckbert
2015-01-08 13:21:55
You rock, reddan. Not many green stone buildings or single-digit-weather tags out there.
teamdecafweekend
2015-01-08 17:09:19
(My apologies to Paul and Yale...I didn't even notice your intention to grab this one.)
reddan
2015-01-08 17:13:25
Noot aaagh. I'm not really a fan of pedaling to nowhere (although I make an exception for the office); that said, this one is making me yearn for a visit to family on the left coast.
reddan
2015-01-08 17:14:13
Cool to see Dan back, and on an actual bike, too.
jonawebb
2015-01-08 18:09:26
bruced. congratulations, reddan
paulheckbert
2015-01-08 20:44:45
reddan, Wow! I am I impressed with the COLD frickin weather you rode through to get the tag!
vcampbell
2015-01-08 22:05:57
Well, it was only a mile from my house, so I can't claim too many tough-guy points for that. 'Twas a good excuse to shake the dust off the 29er I've not ridden in a year.
reddan
2015-01-08 22:24:30
They must stay nice and warm in there... Brighton Heights, California Ave.
randy
2015-01-12 17:31:51
Cool. We're out of the East. But, boy, Randy sure gets around... especially in this weather.
ahlir
2015-01-12 20:22:37
Sorry, Ahlir. We're headed back east. He's not playing but he still has game. He'll make you a batch of salsa or paint you a canvas.
randy
2015-01-13 09:34:42
new tag
paulheckbert
2015-01-16 16:14:02
Amazingly, it has never been a tag. Twice I've gone out that side of town to get a tag (once successfully, once not) and stopped in this very building afterward.
stuinmccandless
2015-01-16 19:43:58
Um, it sort of was a tag already, though not quite exactly. Also set by Paul. Unfortunately it involved this time travel thing that ended up not really working out (at least not for Paul). Ahead of (or behind) its time, I would say. So actually I like that it turned up again, in this way. Gopher it! (no, not a pickup.)
ahlir
2015-01-16 21:05:06
I believe it was tagged before, early on, but it's not on the map.
jonawebb
2015-01-17 11:04:20
Seems unlikely. It's not on the list of tags either. There was a tag with a similar name, back in the first month of the game, but it's only near this one orthographically.
steven
2015-01-17 13:55:28
Carnegie library of HomeSTEAD
jonawebb
2015-01-17 16:41:46
When I checked Steven's spreadsheet I chose to search 'Carnegie'. There were, I think, 16 hits. The majority were libraries. Don't worry though, there's still plenty of them to tag... Oh, and just to be difficult, this building is actually located in Munhall.
ahlir
2015-01-17 18:20:18
A failed general A failed rebellion A town still trying The mayor's a hellion
jonawebb
2015-01-17 20:51:54
*singing* "eh-eh ... And then along came Jones ..." But did Jones ever go to the library? Much closer to go to school.
stuinmccandless
2015-01-18 11:37:43
Braddock's Field, site of 1755 battle, Jones Ave, North Braddock
paulheckbert
2015-01-23 14:25:39
new tag
paulheckbert
2015-01-23 14:57:40
Paul, don't forget a word clue. Preferably in the form of a rhyme.
jonawebb
2015-01-24 12:25:48
clues are PARticularly good.
marko82
2015-01-24 13:05:59
satellite pictures and some thought will put you 100 feet from the parking lot
paulheckbert
2015-01-24 13:07:10
But getting there might require some parkour (or was that parfour?) skills. You may be able to get some useful tips from this informative website
ahlir
2015-01-25 12:28:39
Grand view golf club
jonawebb
2015-02-04 18:42:39
That might be it. How can we tell for sure? :-)
paulheckbert
2015-02-04 20:50:05
Well, it's right golf course, but is that really the 6th hole? The post & the background don't quite match the tag pic... But hey, Jon does appear to have shlepped all the way up there. Maybe a bit more detail will satisfy the skeptics.
ahlir
2015-02-04 22:08:51
Yes, things look different at night But if you want to see this sight You'll have to do it this year Or at least that's what I hear
jonawebb
2015-02-05 20:42:09
And now, the landscape view: Greenfield Br, shortlisted for "Things That Aren't There Anymore".
ahlir
2015-02-06 13:56:00
Ah, the Pleasure of again setting a Tag hereabouts.
ahlir
2015-02-06 19:08:08
It's been 4 days. And the last couple of days were close to ideal (winter) biking days. Do folks need a more clueful hint? This isn't particularly specific information, but this tag does lie on on a rather well-traveled commuter route. For what it's worth (nihil) I waited until there was snow on the ground to set this one, just to have the grill-work stand out better and make it easier to find. Though snow's probably all melted by now. Sic semper destitutione.
ahlir
2015-02-10 21:27:52
I know where this is, but not sure when I can get there. Anybody who knows where it is should grab it.
ted
2015-02-11 11:03:13
Get it quick before a friend does.
marko82
2015-02-11 11:13:52
"(Hope this works. Recently got a smartphone.)" Congrats! We got it! Here's your tag: photo _20150211_141833_zps516d622e.jpg However, none of us can use the smartphone to upload a photo directly to the forums like we used to, that feature's been broken for a while. For now, we're stuck using HTML to cram it in here.
rustyred
2015-02-11 14:40:53
That was kind of you. Thanks.
amygdala
2015-02-11 16:00:58
New tag, I hope. If you're leaving Home, you can't take the train, but you can catch the bus. photo IMG_20150212_221847287_zpsa73f18b9.jpg
amygdala
2015-02-12 23:57:37
Homewood Ave at the Busway (well, under it). loc: 40.452666, -79.898847
ahlir
2015-02-13 11:53:48
Whew. That was close. I made it back to my actual Home, and right now I can barely see the other side of the street. This is a hard one to clue; I can't Brush off the "Ha-Ha" stuck in my head.
ahlir
2015-02-14 14:55:23
My sense that this street, although not arterial, is still pretty well traveled. So you shouldn't let the weather stop you. Unless it's the lack of clue. Let me know.
ahlir
2015-02-21 14:00:08
OK, I finally figured out what the "Ha-Ha" clue meant, so now know where this is. If riding tomorrow isn't too difficult, I can probably work in an extra four-mile side trip out thisaway. But there are a bunch of people a lot closer to this than I am.
stuinmccandless
2015-02-21 16:27:47
It's raining and the temperature (now 32°F) is going down. Maybe not the best night-time pickup (unless you're running Lance-level competitive). Tomorrow afternoon looks to be above freezing. But you'll find that the tag is in a kinda cool corner of a maybe otherwise dreary neighborhood.
ahlir
2015-02-21 18:31:10
New tag haiku: A tag once before Fond memories of filled growlers, Kegs, bikes, and trailers.
stuinmccandless
2015-02-22 19:34:57
progress: bah where will the bees go?
ahlir
2015-02-22 20:49:30
Congrats, Stu. I could have picked up Ha-Ha, but I've been skiing more than biking, lately.
paulheckbert
2015-02-23 01:52:26
My pix on long overdue intro from the Alps suggests I ought to know this one...
neilmd
2015-02-23 06:32:06
On Susquehanna in Homewood, near Dallas Loc: 40.455373, -79.904607 Just down the street from the old East End Brewery location (the ugly concrete-block building in Stu's pic).
ahlir
2015-02-24 12:19:49
I'm pretty sure it's the same building, only that the old EEB entrance a couple feet away was already torn down by Sunday afternoon. This was Tag #21, back when this game first got started back in Sept. 2010. The map also shows three other tags within a couple hundred feet. This isn't even what I'd planned to tag, but seeing it as I rode out Hamilton for the "Ha-Ha" tag, there was no way I was going to miss capturing that image.
stuinmccandless
2015-02-25 05:15:28
The remaining structure is indeed the Brewery. I agree that the distances seem all wrong (and it's all subjective, like the rest of life).
ahlir
2015-02-25 09:55:45
Wheeee!
ahlir
2015-02-25 09:58:43
Woof. Is it time for another clue?
ahlir
2015-02-28 09:34:41
Now if I were to ride my unicycle there, y'know that one wheel thing, I'd have to ride through Mill-vale to get there. But this is not in Millvale.
stuinmccandless
2015-02-28 11:38:07
Thanks for the clue, Stu. photo IMG_20150302_151804777_zps55287efe.jpg Wheel Mill at Hamilton and Dallas in Homewood.
amygdala
2015-03-02 17:06:11
photo _20150302_161754_zpsc566e913.jpg Keeping Home sweet since the '70s. I had the apple raisin turnover.
amygdala
2015-03-02 17:12:05
Dana's Bakery, both in Homewood and on Homewood. loc: 40.456133, -79.896705
ahlir
2015-03-06 14:59:56
To continue pressing the Home advantage... Think Hyphen, but look left (or right). And don't go off much, the grade gets pretty nasty.
ahlir
2015-03-06 15:15:02
I've been hearing good things about that bakery.
edmonds59
2015-03-07 09:36:50
So, do you know where this is?
ahlir
2015-03-15 12:34:34
ahlir
2015-03-17 08:47:55
Kelly St near Brushton Ave, Homewood
paulheckbert
2015-03-17 14:08:35
new tag. The building: was once a neighborhood sweet shop, now a convenience store.
paulheckbert
2015-03-17 18:10:56
That's the second memorial in a row. I know I've seen this new one but at the moment I can't quite remember just where. If I do manage to remember and snag it, I think I'll try to stay away from that stuff. At least for a while (though, sadly, there's a lot of it around this town). It's powerful that, collectively, we make a point of not letting people simply disappear. Lives do matter.
ahlir
2015-03-17 21:10:29
hint: a main road in Pittsburgh's easternmost neighborhood
paulheckbert
2015-03-19 12:51:48
Frankstown ave. The infant who died here: Levels convenience store:
jonawebb
2015-03-21 09:24:30
I don't have a rhyme. Sometimes, after a pickup, the next tag just reaches out and smacks you right in the face.
jonawebb
2015-03-21 10:04:16
Where on Frankstown Avenue is Levels?
steven
2015-03-21 11:26:42
loc: 40.455661, -79.879296 past where Bennett & Frankstown merge
ahlir
2015-03-21 12:46:43
Dick Valley Texaco; Bennett, just before it merges with Frankstown. loc: 40.454480, -79.883035
ahlir
2015-03-21 14:05:23
sorry for the delay... We've had A20 and A21 (though not A22 if I recall correctly). M22 you might have seen, riding along some trail...
ahlir
2015-03-23 12:37:52
Certain horned riders of late might very well have seen this.
stuinmccandless
2015-03-23 19:12:40
ahlir
2015-03-24 15:02:38
The Iguana's new tag, in case you didn't see it:
paulheckbert
2015-03-26 15:08:12
Good pic & clues; tag was right where it was supposed to be. loc: 40.429948, -79.950404 The soccer field parking lot, Junction Hollow (with parkway in the distance). Also, those tires are in one piece.
ahlir
2015-03-26 18:00:00
I learned a phrase today "orthotic device" that I'm pretty sure I didn't know before. But actually, I was trying to figure out what this mural was about (sorry, I used my phone camera). It's clearly about electricity, its generation and distribution. Now that I'm looking at the pic I notice what looks like a label in the lower right; I always miss this stuff at the time. Sigh. I think I'll take the liberty of getting myself a brew.
ahlir
2015-03-26 18:31:47
Union Orthotics on Liberty in Bloomfield. IMG_20150327_081700
rustyred
2015-03-27 08:11:54
New (giant) tag... literally. Katharine and Aaron welcome you! IMG_20150327_082513
rustyred
2015-03-27 08:15:40
Kindred Cycles, Penn Ave near 25th St.
paulheckbert
2015-03-27 14:50:07
new tag. hint: below Ohio & California
paulheckbert
2015-03-27 20:03:03
1740 Eckert
jonawebb
2015-03-28 10:55:08
Ti bikes and Logan's planning This tag's along the trail This summer we're randonneuring Ride all day without fail
jonawebb
2015-03-28 14:07:47
Jon, the tag pickup image you posted was in WebP format, a new image format that's currently supported natively only in Chrome and Opera. People using other browsers like Firefox or IE or Safari can't see it (unless the web site with the image does special tricks, which this one doesn't). It's probably better to avoid the new format until it's better-supported. Is everyone else having trouble getting to this page too? Seems like we may need a new Tag-o-Rama thread.
steven
2015-03-29 01:20:19
@Steven, I noticed the problem with the thread, too. Starting early this time. Also, I guess Google+ changed something about their image formats--how annoying.
jonawebb
2015-03-29 07:36:45
For me, email notification links go to the first page of the thread instead of going directly to the post. That started about 10 posts ago. Not a big deal, a little annoying.
teamdecafweekend
2015-03-29 08:04:45
Creepy abandoned building beyond the WE Bridge near the Cardello building and Kroll Drive. Where delivery trucks try to drive on the trail... IMG_20150329_092944 Easiest tag ever. I keep the bike parked inside the Cardello building a few yards away.
rustyred
2015-03-29 08:42:51
New tag! IMG_20150329_145418
rustyred
2015-03-29 14:23:12
I rode past that tag on my way to the Market for a steak.
rustyred
2015-03-31 14:28:01
*** not a pickup *** This street does have the interesting Toynbees... But, alas, not a good week for me.
ahlir
2015-03-31 19:41:29
@Ahlir: If it's not a pickup, then what is it?
paulheckbert
2015-04-01 12:37:58
I'm assuming he had a file photo, and was invoking the last sentence of Rule 2a: "If you won't have time to drop off a new tag, don't pick it up to begin with." I made a quick sweep last night, looking for this, but didn't see it. So the game is having its intended purpose, getting us (me, anyway) to ride around looking for things. I have no real idea where this is, and am content to putz around looking for it rather than research online and simply ride to it.
stuinmccandless
2015-04-01 13:37:18
Fair point. I snapped that pic a while ago. (2014.04 .06 @ 16:52, according to the image file; are digital cameras cool or what?) Posting it as a pickup would thus violate the game's temporal-ordering constraint on tags. So, do I need to schlep down there, to expiate my presumption? Comment on @Stu's post: These things are darn hard to spot, even if you know where they are. I think that's part of their charm. One tip: For the most part the tiles are positioned for benefit of pedestrians.
ahlir
2015-04-01 13:50:07
"Comment on @Stu’s post: These things are darn hard to spot, even if you know where they are. I think that’s part of their charm." The Hades tiles are difficult for a cyclist to spot because they tend to be placed in the center/left lanes, where we generally aren't riding.
rustyred
2015-04-01 14:02:08
RR is right. The Hades people kind of messed that up. Toynbee was much more consistent in placement. And, I see that I got the attribution wrong in my posting. The tag is of course a Hades, not a Toynbee.
ahlir
2015-04-01 14:13:11
House of Hades / One man versus American media in society 2012. Blvd of Allies & Market St
paulheckbert
2015-04-01 15:37:34
I made a new thread for the game, since this one is messing up.
steven
2015-04-01 16:57:47