Commuting from Crafton to Downtown

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paulheckbert
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This Trolley Trail news is very cool. I think the same concept was brought up before in https://bikepgh.org/message-board/topic/west-end-branch-pwvwle-rail-trail/#post-313800 . That Trolley line became Clearview Park Trail west of Noblestown Rd, correct?


DoubleStraps
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Huh, interesting. The trail is really helpful when going outbound from town to Crafton, as you don’t have to slowly peddle in fast-moving traffic that is navigating narrow and hilly lanes. I’d love to have a protected area to bike uphill for the rest of the commute. It’s unsafe enough that I usually brace/flinch when I feel a bigger vehicle coming up behind me, as I’m juuuust a little fearful that they’ll be cruising on autopilot at 45mph and not notice me tuttering along at <10mph.

Rt. 60 is indeed plenty wide enough for a bike path. I think the problem is that the bike lanes would require quite a bit of sweeping/maintenance due to all the debris that ends up on the side of the road. When it rains it basically turns into rock slide situation.

edit: Hah, just noticed that I replied to the linked thread. At that time, I hadn’t worked up the courage to commute from Crafton to Downtown. I do it regularly now, though I don’t really love it. Inbound is quite enjoyable.


emmypgh
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I know this is an old thread, but thank you to everyone who posted. I’m gearing up the courage to bike to work from Crafton to downtown, and while I’m not wild about the idea of having to bike up route 60 on the way home, it’s nice to hear the overall commute is doable.

 

Edit: I’ll be the one walking my bike up Route 60 in the evenings, hahaha. Wave at me as you zip past.


paulheckbert
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emmypgh: Here’s a route that I’ve biked pieces of that would keep you off of busy roads and would probably be a lot less stressful than Route 60, though it’s longer and the total amount of climbing is higher. The short portion on Walbridge St is steep but it has a sidewalk so you could walk that if preferred.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27448650


emmypgh
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Thank you! I did a trial run last night and was surprised that going up 60 wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be, in terms of the hill. Not sure how I’ll feel about it with more traffic mixed in, though.


pinky
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Noblestown now has two land slides. Tuesday night, we stopped to talk to the cop blocking the road (before the slide slid) and he let us by on bikes, reluctantly.

Wednesday morning, the cop wouldn’t let anyone by. Wednesday afternoon, same deal.

Today I took Steuben into the city (not terrible given the steep part is downhill). But on the way home, I’m faced with the monster of Herschel or the goat trail of Neidel since I won’t ride Steuben uphill on the narrow section (between Chartiers and Lorenz).

Anyone commuting around there these days? Any recommendations other than the above?

I should note that last time Noblestown was closed, they let us through once the hill was stabilized even when it was closed to cars.


StuInMcCandless
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Would it help to take Steuben to Chartiers to Lorenz to Neidel? Or just get off and push along the Steuben sidewalk? (Or Neidel or Herschel?)

Just thinking back to my trips to Crafton when all I had was a double chainring. No shame in getting off and pushing, and easier on the drivetrain as much as the legs.

Just remembered Lorenz is a staircase from Steuben to Neidel. That could be a good thing. Walk the left-side sidewalk up to Lorenz, up the steps to Neidel, which I think gets you beyond most of the goat path part.

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