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HiddenVariable
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i don’t know. hushovd is one of the best finishers in the world, and he basically had a free ride the whole way to the line. if cancellara was being too generous, it was in leading the group the whole way to the finish.

also: was it geraint thomas who fell and cut his face on his pedal yesterday? someone with a similar name, and from the uk, fell about halfway through, and if it was thomas, finishing second deserves some serious props.


HiddenVariable
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crikey! i thought today was supposed to be an easy, non-technical day. these roundabouts are fun!


sarah_q
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@the.republic.of.e. Go to OTB. Also: wheat beer and seitan wings.


edmonds59
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If someone recommends some especially good stages to watch, I’d go to otb for a bp watchfest.


steve k
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if anyone in the tour is fragile, it’s definitely be cvv.

losing frank is a big blow, but having jens and cancellera to drill it into the mountains can help to shed some of the other contenders (or at least their help) and definitely benefit andy.

vino seemed to take another page from the “what is he thinking?” book by dropping his teammate in the closing km. it’s like the team time trial in the giro all over again. vino did not even notice that he dropped contador.

thor can ride smart for the green jersey. zabel, even before today, said that cavendish is pretty much out for the green. and he works for htc-columbia. cavendish lost his super leadout from last year. he’s lost a lot of respect in the peloton and looks terrible. sucks to be him.

also, versus still sucks. how did yesterday’s ride of the day belong to contador? because he didn’t fall? what about ryder from garmin? he attacked the break, got caught by a fast group that was putting time into the chase 1 over the closing kms, was able to grab a wheel, and still finished third on the stage! gimme eurosport any day.


brian j
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I totally forgot about what Vino did yesterday–wouldn’t want to be around the Astana dinner table last night.

Cavendish has 15 points(!) and Thor has 80 at this point. Pettachi is only 10 behind after today’s stage.


stefb
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so a few questions about the tour – i could look it up but i am wondering if it will spawn a discussion –

1) has a woman ever competed in the tour? if not, do you think one will ever?

2) saddle sores – i wonder if these guys get bad ones or if they’re used to all of that time in the saddle?


jkoutrouba
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There’s a women’s tour: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_F%C3%A9minin. It gets little coverage here, sort of like the WNBA. Unlike, say, women’s tennis, which is more or less on equal standing with men’s, it is a second class event.


jkoutrouba
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They are used to the time in the saddle.


brian j
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1) No. There exists the Tour de France Feminin, but that doesn’t get quite as much press.

2) I recall a story from Greg Lemond’s glory days about a massive saddle sore he had one year. Of course, there is also Laurent Fignon claiming he lost the final day TT in 1989 (the first time, by the way, that the now-ubiquitous time trial bars were used) due to saddle sores.


jkoutrouba
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Well, maybe I’m wrong. I suppose it’s like runners who suddenly develop blisters, though. I’m sure it happens, but not from lack of training.


stefb
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so are women just physically unable of competing with men? i’m not trying to be a feminist.. i am asking if that is the fact, cause it’s fine if it is. i assume it’s just science.


88MS88
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Saddle sores? Let chamois butter be your (close) friend.


sarah_q
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stefb, women are slower than men. Although in triathlon right now we have a female competitor that is giving the boys a run for their money (Chrissie Wellington). She’s come in 10th in the men’s pro race and that is pretty much unheard of in the sport before now.


brian j
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In case anyone still actually likes Cavendish, check his tantrum after yesterday’s stage.


dwillen
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Hahaha, the helmet launched out the door was the icing on the cake. What a tool.


Chris Mayhew
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@Stefb There’s a pretty dramatic disparity between the abilities of women and men. Very roughly what I can do as a mediocre male racer is equal to what the top flight pro women can do. And Lance, at his peak, can do roughly twice what I can do. Big big gap.


Chris Mayhew
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@Brian Georestricted now?


steevo
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Also about M vs. F.

I think in triathlon they can relatively compete

only over long distances. The short (1 hour, 5 mins)

etc is where men really crush women as far as

physical ability. Apparently when it approaches like

10 hours it levels out some and after like 30 hours

women might actually be better (as some ultra

marathons have proven, but raam has dis proven)


brian j
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@Chris: The Cav video? Not for me. I do, however, have to click on the thumbnail to the left first to get the video to play.

Silly Belgians.


rsprake
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Why was he so pissed this time?

ps, I thought stage 3 with the cobble stones was pretty awesome but my recording stopped right before the sprint. How annoying. I pretty much got to a few minutes after Lance caught up to the chase group.


Boazo
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@ M vs F …

I think it was mostly women that survived the ultra++ Donner Party thing.


brian j
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Why was he so pissed this time?

Because he lost, and he knows that he is 75 points adrift in the points table. His personal coach, Erik Zabel, has said is basically impossible for Cav to win the green jersey without Hushovd, Petacchi, and McEwen abandoning the race.


Lyle
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Yes, the pros do get saddle sores sometimes. Saddle sores are not caused by lack of fitness (though lack of experience is a big factor).

But the pros at least have “people” to take care of them. I don’t have many friends I would ask, or trust, to treat a boil on my grundle.


anthony
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Pretty cool real time tracking setup from Google for Team HTC –

http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/mytrackstour/


sarah_q
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@Steevo – right now in the 140.6 tri distance (8-9 hours for the pros) Wellington is the first woman to even come close to the men. She is ahead of the other pro women by 20+ minutes. It is incredible to watch.

Cav stomping onto the bus and then throwing his helmet out the door was great!


stefb
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thanks for the responses.

i totally forgot about this, but isn’t the machine that paints messages in chalk on the road on the tour something that was invented at CMU?


Noah Mustion
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stefb

Ha ha yeah that’s a total CMU product. Graffiti robot.


rsprake
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Deeplocal of Pittsburgh is responsible for the current implementation, Chalkbot.


sarah_q
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Maybe Cav’s tantrum did the trick?


dwillen
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Hah, yea. Toss your gear down like a pissed off 2-year old then win a couple of stages.

Arrogant trash talk in t-minus 3.. 2.. 1..


cburch
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they should invent a new jersey for being the biggest douche on the tour. then ol’ marky mark could win every single year.


AtLeastMyKidsLoveMe
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@cburch – and what color would THAT jersey be?


dwillen
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It would probably look a lot like Footon-Servetto’s latest kit.

What were they thinking? World naked bike ride meets le tour de france?


jkoutrouba
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Wow. Those are some serious package-enhancing trou.


dwillen
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Right as I turned on the first stage a Footon-Servetto guy rolled past right as the camera cut away and I thought some guy was streaking and managed to keep up with the peloton.


cburch
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maybe a big picture of dane cook and carlos mencia on it?


stefb
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and it should be brown. like a turd.


anthony
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it should be pink and have a collar.


stefb
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it must be a popped collar

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